Teabaggers make martyr of cowardly deserter

[New Unsociety]

He shd not be jailed-but dishonorably discharged,silently,and lose all army service privileges.

(incidents like this go to show mercenary and warrior just don't go together)

[Terra Agora]

We'll lay out the facts

1. the actual valid completely legal document (Certification of Live Birth) has been presented. (within the context of 2 and 3, this really ended the dicussion for all reasonable people years ago)
2. The Certification has been authenticated independently, including it's bearing of the proper raised seals
3. The Hawaiian gov't has exclaimed the validity of the record on file
4. They have gone above and beyond to provide a facsimile from the books of the actual physical record "Certificate of Live Birth", bearing, once again the raised seal.
5. This one too has been scanned and enhanced to make the text readable

This isn't a coverup... it's an uncovering revealing how fucking stupid some people are to think this is not legitimate at this point.

All I hear if fucking nonsense from the opposition...

Anyone who things Obama is hiding something about his birth at this stage should be sat in the corner with a dunce-cap on and subjected to constant unending hazing and public ridicule.

The "scanned" image is not a "scanned" image it is a manufactured birth certificate made by using 2(+) images and other editing.

[New Unsociety]

You know you are going to get put on a watch list if you keep reading books like that...

Just wait until I write The Freedom Fighter's Handbook.

I order 100.
(that shd put me on a list...)

[Sucrati]

We'll lay out the facts

1. the actual valid completely legal document (Certification of Live Birth) has been presented. (within the context of 2 and 3, this really ended the dicussion for all reasonable people years ago)
2. The Certification has been authenticated independently, including it's bearing of the proper raised seals
3. The Hawaiian gov't has exclaimed the validity of the record on file
4. They have gone above and beyond to provide a facsimile from the books of the actual physical record "Certificate of Live Birth", bearing, once again the raised seal.
5. This one too has been scanned and enhanced to make the text readable

This isn't a coverup... it's an uncovering revealing how fucking stupid some people are to think this is not legitimate at this point.

All I hear if fucking nonsense from the opposition...

Anyone who things Obama is hiding something about his birth at this stage should be sat in the corner with a dunce-cap on and subjected to constant unending hazing and public ridicule.

The "scanned" image is not a "scanned" image it is a manufactured birth certificate made by using 2(+) images and other editing.

Even as someone is on the right, that quote is one that I makes me do that.

The first certificate had the numbers blacked out, seeing as a official document was modified, that certificate was rendered null and void, now...

The certificate that was recently released is a legit, non-edited document, yes, scanned, but not edited to suit privacy concerns, the only thing that the birthers can pick at is the African Designation for his Race, instead of the common 'Negro' back in 1961.

Even so, this is ridiculous, Obama is president, plain and simple, sure he inherited a mess, but he's only added to it, while going on many... trips.

Obama would have done better to run for his first term in 2012, if things had not improved under another president.

[Terra Agora]

The "scanned" image is not a "scanned" image it is a manufactured birth certificate made by using 2(+) images and other editing.

Even as someone is on the right, that quote is one that I makes me do that.

The first certificate had the numbers blacked out, seeing as a official document was modified, that certificate was rendered null and void, now...

The certificate that was recently released is a legit, non-edited document, yes, scanned, but not edited to suit privacy concerns, the only thing that the birthers can pick at is the African Designation for his Race, instead of the common 'Negro' back in 1961.

Even so, this is ridiculous, Obama is president, plain and simple, sure he inherited a mess, but he's only added to it, while going on many... trips.

Obama would have done better to run for his first term in 2012, if things had not improved under another president.

This did not address my argumen in anyway.. I dont care if he was born here. I still hate him either way lol. I dont think he should be impeached if it is ever proven it is not real. Im just saying he lied. And yes it is edited.

[Trotskylvania]

Isn't the whole "birther" thing some ridiculous side-show used as a smoke-screen?

I mean, it seems ridiculous to damned near every other nation in the world.

The notion that someone has to be born in the US to be president is ridiculous.
But if you look at the stuff released it was obviously tampered with.

[Tekania]

I see no reason why I shouldn't make birthers look like idiots.

Ok, here is my own Birth Certificate...

As I am home I am dealing only with my readily available equipment on hand...

The Document was scanned on an older Epson Stylus CX6600 into Adobe Acrobat X Pro as a color document with OCR turned on (default setting) and Medium Lossy compression (also default setting), and immiediately saved as a PDF file, it was briefly opened in Illustrator CS5 with no modifications made.

Several things to notice...

1. Where in the center area where background transitions to red there is some minor chromatic aberration on this relatively old and cheap piece of shit, there is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NONE in the blue/green areas. Similar to the green backdrop of the Obama

2. In the upper numbers, for very little reason outside of some algorithmic glitch, one of the numbers appears different, as the OCR did not render over it.... Similar to the one Obama posted...

3. In illustrator it will be found that this single "flat" PDF scanned image actually has separate layers for the text and background (though the text layers also possesses some background artifacts)... This, as has been pointed out online by numerous REAL experts is likely the effect of OCR and compression.... Once again, strikingly similar to Obama's posted..

4. The title is "Certificate of Live Birth", which shows, much like Obama that I was born alive and not stillborn like most birthers must have been... Damn brain sucking zombies (certainly have to get their brains from some other source, they ain't got any).

[Farnhamia]

I see no reason why I shouldn't make birthers look like idiots.

Ok, here is my own Birth Certificate...

As I am home I am dealing only with my readily available equipment on hand...

The Document was scanned on an older Epson Stylus CX6600 into Adobe Acrobat X Pro as a color document with OCR turned on (default setting) and Medium Lossy compression (also default setting), and immiediately saved as a PDF file, it was briefly opened in Illustrator CS5 with no modifications made.

Several things to notice...

1. Where in the center area where background transitions to red there is some minor chromatic aberration on this relatively old and cheap piece of shit, there is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NONE in the blue/green areas. Similar to the green backdrop of the Obama

2. In the upper numbers, for very little reason outside of some algorithmic glitch, one of the numbers appears different, as the OCR did not render over it.... Similar to the one Obama posted...

3. In illustrator it will be found that this single "flat" PDF scanned image actually has separate layers for the text and background (though the text layers also possesses some background artifacts)... This, as has been pointed out online by numerous REAL experts is likely the effect of OCR and compression.... Once again, strikingly similar to Obama's posted..

4. The title is "Certificate of Live Birth", which shows, much like Obama that I was born alive and not stillborn like most birthers must have been... Damn brain sucking zombies (certainly have to get their brains from some other source, they ain't got any).

Man, you really didn't want to post that on the interwebs, did you?

[Tekania]

I see no reason why I shouldn't make birthers look like idiots.

Ok, here is my own Birth Certificate...

As I am home I am dealing only with my readily available equipment on hand...

The Document was scanned on an older Epson Stylus CX6600 into Adobe Acrobat X Pro as a color document with OCR turned on (default setting) and Medium Lossy compression (also default setting), and immiediately saved as a PDF file, it was briefly opened in Illustrator CS5 with no modifications made.

Several things to notice...

1. Where in the center area where background transitions to red there is some minor chromatic aberration on this relatively old and cheap piece of shit, there is ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NONE in the blue/green areas. Similar to the green backdrop of the Obama

2. In the upper numbers, for very little reason outside of some algorithmic glitch, one of the numbers appears different, as the OCR did not render over it.... Similar to the one Obama posted...

3. In illustrator it will be found that this single "flat" PDF scanned image actually has separate layers for the text and background (though the text layers also possesses some background artifacts)... This, as has been pointed out online by numerous REAL experts is likely the effect of OCR and compression.... Once again, strikingly similar to Obama's posted..

4. The title is "Certificate of Live Birth", which shows, much like Obama that I was born alive and not stillborn like most birthers must have been... Damn brain sucking zombies (certainly have to get their brains from some other source, they ain't got any).

Man, you really didn't want to post that on the interwebs, did you?

It's useless without particular security features. If they track down my current address or SSN they may be about to get something. I however have no plans on handing that out to the internetz.... And besides, it's on my server here in my closet, I'll pull it down after a short bit.

[Farnhamia]

Man, you really didn't want to post that on the interwebs, did you?

It's useless without particular security features. If they track down my current address or SSN they may be about to get something. I however have no plans on handing that out to the internetz.... And besides, it's on my server here in my closet, I'll pull it down after a short bit.

Ah, okay.

[GeneralHaNor]

Spoken like a true Statist™

To be honest shouldn't one think of that before joining?

As far as I am concerned, if you join the military you are part of the problem, and thus the only honorable act is to desert
Ignorance is excusable, willful ignorance is not. And the Contract you sign upon joining the military is a contract where in the due course of performing your obligation, you will be required to murder in the name of the state. You Cannot claim ignorance and be honest, you are a contract killer.

Granted he didn't leave cause he had an objection to statist coercion or murdering for his country. He believed his chosen leader was not legitimate. Which is silly and wrong. However I'm less concerned about his motive, and am simply glad he is no longer part of the machine.

If every solider laid down his arms, and every person abandoned Statism (I'm convinced it's a religion at this point) there would be no war. you cannot fight a war without soldiers who are willing to die for your cause. and only states wage war.

What disgusts me is not the idea that he is guilty of abandoning his duty (as far as I'm concerned you cannot commit treason) it's the idea that anyone who refuses to kill for the state, deserves death. Which is frankly part and parcel a statist argument. I've never seen an Anarchist advocate the death penalty for those that refuse to kill in the Anarchism.

[GeneralHaNor]

Rambling again are we?

NSG has lowered itself to simply spouting slogans at this point.

I tire of old arguments repeating themselves, so I just stick ™ at the end of the talking point and call it a day.

[Han-Kuk]

If people want proof that the US is in decline, they need look no further. The very fact that this incident constitutes a political "issue" is proof of the utter and complete degradation of American culture, not to mention how totally severed from reality "politics" is in this country.

Meanwhile, the economy continues to tank and the nation is led into yet another war in the MENA region. Within a century or two they will look back at the US the way we look back at the waning days of ancient Rome. With Donald Trump running for President, there's a good chance our leaders will be just as kooky as some of the later Roman Emperors.

[Natapoc]

(snip)

Hay tek, that info about it being your own server... could be the missing piece someone would need. I know for example the general area of the what city you live in now.

[Tekania]

(snip)

Hay tek, that info about it being your own server... could be the missing piece someone would need. I know for example the general area of the what city you live in now.

Actually it's funny, there is someone else near here who has the same name as me, and also happens to have a brother with the same name as mine... Actually, it's kinda freeky when you think about it....