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homosexuality = medical condition?

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Agree
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Strongly Disagree
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I am Gay
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:01 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:I doubt you have any credentials beyond elementary school.

That said, if you were truly a student of any form of the human mind, you would know that no conclusive results have shown that homosexuality is the result of a damaged mind.


I have seen proof towards that - the skull of Oscar Wilde was analyzed and found notoriously flattened in the cranial regions - a sign of depravity. Proof enough for ya?

Oh, and please: look at my posts and see my mode of speech. It is hardly that of a schoolboy, no? Do not make such false claims, it is unbecoming to you.

Considering he was a homosexual in prison for crimes against god, its unsurprising that his skull had a few dents here and there.

I've seen better, to be honest. But that's beside the point; you claim to be well recognized or an expert, but considering you lack the knowledge of base studies, I severely doubt you know what you are talking about.

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:02 pm

I know what a trawl is but the heck's a "Poe"?

Edgar A. Poe was one of my favorite authors I'll readily admit, his "Fall of the House of Usher" was a masterpiece, but I am not he unfortunately.
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Postby Ryadn » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:02 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Easy; because before the modern era, it was mostly hidden.


Right. Name one, just one ancient who was enamored entirely with men? For we'd expect in a culture like Ancient Greece's, where all behaviors were accepted, for at least one 100% homosexual to pop up. But there are none.


We're supposed to know that... how? Even Barbara Walters wasn't around that long ago to get all the juicy details.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:03 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:I know what a trawl is but the heck's a "Poe"?

Edgar A. Poe was one of my favorite authors I'll readily admit, his "Fall of the House of Usher" was a masterpiece, but I am not he unfortunately.

A "Poe" is a person who writes a parody of a Fundamentalist that is mistaken for the real thing. Due to Poe's Law, it is almost impossible to tell if a person is a Poe unless they admit to it.

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:07 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Roman Cilicia wrote:I know what a trawl is but the heck's a "Poe"?

Edgar A. Poe was one of my favorite authors I'll readily admit, his "Fall of the House of Usher" was a masterpiece, but I am not he unfortunately.

A "Poe" is a person who writes a parody of a Fundamentalist that is mistaken for the real thing. Due to Poe's Law, it is almost impossible to tell if a person is a Poe unless they admit to it.


He's not the real thing.

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Eh, s/he's not a white nationalist. I suspect s/he's just someone who perused through Stormfront too much - anf found a nifty theme to troll people with.

S/he's all over the place, from having supported once supported Shariah law, to claiming he's an expert in proffesional Biology. There's no way this guys for real.


Sharia law is much better for the wayward Arabs than the Liberal Democratic tendencies currently swirring throughout the middle east, in the hands of men like Zuckerberg and Goldstein who run facebook!

And I am forsooth an accredited scientist! Phrenology is as valid a doctrine as any. Point out any serious academic rebuttal of phrenology.


It's pretty obvious to be honest. He's trolling.
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Postby Roman Cilicia » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:08 pm

I am no troll, I mean to offend noone. I simply wish to state my views and facts and hopefully engage some people in intelligent conversation.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:11 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:I am no troll, I mean to offend noone. I simply wish to state my views and facts and hopefully engage some people in intelligent conversation.

Your facts mean little if they aren't facts.

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:20 pm

Show me an article disproving phrenology in any way. I dare you!
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Postby Goldbachland » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:55 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:Show me an article disproving phrenology in any way. I dare you!

Its not falsifiable. Because it is un able to be disproved it shows no value. If i told you people could fly but only certain circumstances only when they wanted to what could you do to disprove that?

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:04 pm

How would I disprove it, when it is patently true. I myself have seen Hindoo brahmins levitate a meter high for up to three minutes! And an old magyar elder once rose up 50 ft in a sleepy little village near Temesvar that I had the pleasure of visiting, so the men swear.
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Postby New Korongo » Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:09 pm

hmm "Yes, sorry, i can't come to work today, my doctor says I have a really bad condition called homosexuality".

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Postby Tekania » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:44 am

Caecili wrote:
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What's the point in "worrying" about other peoples sexuality? Seems rather a pointless pastime.


Well, not really worrying. Just thinking. Considering, perhaps.

Oh, well I think of "consideration" and "thinking" different that "worry".
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Tekania » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:48 am

Roman Cilicia wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:This will matter how, exactly?


To prove pure homosexuals exist, and that it is not simply a fetish or some other base expression of the wounded human psyche.

For that would be the first step to proving that homosexuality is indeed an orientation as the liberals profess.


It's fairly common in societies which are opposed to homosexuality for homosexuals to hide as heterosexuals have wives and families and fuck other men in secret. This is what Republicans and Conservative Christian homosexuals do.
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Davids Conglomerates » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:59 am

Goldbachland wrote:Homosexuality is a medical condition. There is something in homosexuals brains that are messed up and changed their sexual orientation (through natural selection we are heterosexual in order to make babies). I am not saying homosexuality is bad or wrong but they cant make babies ya know? So i think yes it is a medical condition.


I'm acctually proof against that. I'm bi, and I had to go through several head scans during a particularly severe bout of depression.

Now, I only have my trained, professional doctors word on this, but he said my brain was "completely normal. Free of any issues".

I also have no issues with "makeing babies". However, there are enough poor kids suffering in shitty foster care these days that I'd honestly be happier haveing a boyfriend and adopting than haveing a wife and haveing kids. I also found an awesome boyfriend on my first go of it at a proper relationship, so I'm pretty happy. I have a long reaching family tree spanning from Ireland to Germany that can carry on chunks of my genetic history, so I couldn't be arsed reproducing for the benefit of a society I won't get to see when I'm dead.

There's enough kids haveing a shitty time of it on this rock without throwing more on the pile.

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Postby New Hayesalia » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:05 am

It is in North Korea.

Silly web designer wrote:NO 2O: Due to tradition in Korean culture, it is not customary for individuals of any sexual orientation to engage in public displays of affection. As a country that has embraced science and rationalism, the DPRK recognizes that many individuals are born with homosexuality as a genetic trait and treats them with due respect.

Homosexuals in the DPRK have never been subject to repression, as in many capitalist regimes around the world. However, North Koreans also place a lot of emphasis on social harmony and morals. Therefore, the DPRK rejects many characteristics of the popular gay culture in the West, which many perceive to embrace consumerism, classism and promiscuity.


Hell, if Kim Jong-Il says so, why not?
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:11 am

Medical condition perhaps, but it's certainly not a medical illness.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:13 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Goldbachland wrote:Homosexuality is a medical condition. There is something in homosexuals brains that are messed up and changed their sexual orientation (through natural selection we are heterosexual in order to make babies). I am not saying homosexuality is bad or wrong but they cant make babies ya know? So i think yes it is a medical condition.

Homosexuals can make babies. Proof: Neil Patrick Harris.

Proof #2: my gay cousin who has two biological children. :)
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Postby Anders4 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:19 am

IMOit's a genetic trait. There was a study who tried to answer to this question: why does the homosexual gene spread at all considering that the 100% gays don't procreate? And the answer is that people with a moderate amount of that gene are more attractive to the other sex and procreate more. Only the excess of the gay gene is conducive to homosexuality. That's a way to say that genetically every male has a feminine side and every woman has a masculine side ...

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:23 am

Roman Cilicia wrote:Show me an article disproving phrenology in any way. I dare you!

Is phrenology the new flat Earth now or something?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:24 am

Bottle wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Homosexuals can make babies. Proof: Neil Patrick Harris.

Proof #2: my gay cousin who has two biological children. :)

I bet your cousin isn't as awesome as Neil Patrick Harris, though.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:25 am

Anders4 wrote:IMOit's a genetic trait. There was a study who tried to answer to this question: why does the homosexual gene spread at all considering that the 100% gays don't procreate? And the answer is that people with a moderate amount of that gene are more attractive to the other sex and procreate more. Only the excess of the gay gene is conducive to homosexuality. That's a way to say that genetically every male has a feminine side and every woman has a masculine side ...

Just FYI, research has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that homosexuality is NOT a purely genetic trait. This was easily done by looking at identical twins (two people who have identical DNA) and finding that not all identical twins have the same sexual orientation. Genetics may play a role in sexuality, but sexuality is definitely NOT completely controlled by genetics. There is no longer any serious scientific debate about this.
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Postby Bottle » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:26 am

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Bottle wrote:Proof #2: my gay cousin who has two biological children. :)

I bet your cousin isn't as awesome as Neil Patrick Harris, though.

True. NPH is the world's first freeze-ray-building musical theater enthusiast; my cousin is a buyer for Sears.
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Postby Iuuvic » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:30 am

Roman Cilicia wrote:Show me an article disproving phrenology in any way. I dare you!



http://books.google.com/books?id=eNsVUG ... ve&f=false

Happy reading to all. There are others and far more modern as-well so if you are left unsatisfied I will be glad to...please you *licks lips* ;)

Page 1, start there...Sometimes I need to ask people not to skim over the important things; please don't do that.

I get confused when crazy is involved, how exactly did this dead pseudoscience enter the discussion of homosexuality as a disease? My basic understanding of phrenology lead me to believe that all people had equal factions of the brain which grew or shrank depending on usage, by that theory wouldn't everyone have a gay section of the brain that would grow or shrink depending on usage? See how confusing crazy can be?
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Postby Shnercropolis » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:14 pm

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Postby Norstal » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:17 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:How would I disprove it, when it is patently true. I myself have seen Hindoo brahmins levitate a meter high for up to three minutes! And an old magyar elder once rose up 50 ft in a sleepy little village near Temesvar that I had the pleasure of visiting, so the men swear.

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