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Kubra
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Postby Kubra » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:20 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Kubra wrote: Death doesn't suck at all.

You've experienced it? I'm trying to help, loser.
You haven't either, so you have as little authority on the subject as I.
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:20 pm

Risna wrote:
Kubra wrote: You have yet to actually answer the question
Low self esteem is not simply low self esteem
What exactly is it you see in yourself that makes it so your self esteem seems as it does?

I dont think i understand your question but i will try. I view myself as burden to the world. My mother before she had me before i was born had two miscarriages. I feel that they are my fault. Two lives were taken were destroyed for the sake of my existence. When i grew up i was slower then everyone else. I was constantly overshadowed by my peers I was often at the bottom of my class. When my parents divorced ten years ago they divorced over reasons how to raise their children (me). If i did not exist they would not be arguing over it and they would both be happy with a happy marriage. I caused the divorce. It was my fault. Did that answer your question?


WHOA. Stop. If they can't reconcile their views as adults, then that was their problem. An 8 year old can't be at fault for that. Also, miscarriages that happened before you were born have even less to do with you.

What GPA did you graduate with?

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Postby Risna » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:20 pm

Soyut wrote:Exercise, sunshine, eat vegetables, smile at yourself in the mirror. Healthy body, healthy attitude = healthy mind.

Its pouring outside right now sorry i dont think that will help me. Rain makes me depressed.
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Postby Kubra » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:21 pm

Risna wrote:
Soyut wrote:Exercise, sunshine, eat vegetables, smile at yourself in the mirror. Healthy body, healthy attitude = healthy mind.

Its pouring outside right now sorry i dont think that will help me. Rain makes me depressed.
Why does rain make you depressed
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:21 pm

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Frisivisia wrote:You've experienced it? I'm trying to help, loser.
You haven't either, so you have as little authority on the subject as I.

So, why are you trolling on a serious thread like this?
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Postby Risna » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:21 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Risna wrote:I dont think i understand your question but i will try. I view myself as burden to the world. My mother before she had me before i was born had two miscarriages. I feel that they are my fault. Two lives were taken were destroyed for the sake of my existence. When i grew up i was slower then everyone else. I was constantly overshadowed by my peers I was often at the bottom of my class. When my parents divorced ten years ago they divorced over reasons how to raise their children (me). If i did not exist they would not be arguing over it and they would both be happy with a happy marriage. I caused the divorce. It was my fault. Did that answer your question?


WHOA. Stop. If they can't reconcile their views as adults, then that was their problem. An 8 year old can't be at fault for that. Also, miscarriages that happened before you were born have even less to do with you.

What GPA did you graduate with?

3.3 But all my friends were in honors some had like 3.8 I was the least intelligent in my group and that hurt a lot.
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:22 pm

Risna wrote:
Soyut wrote:Exercise, sunshine, eat vegetables, smile at yourself in the mirror. Healthy body, healthy attitude = healthy mind.

Its pouring outside right now sorry i dont think that will help me. Rain makes me depressed.


No, rain makes homelss people depressed. Go exercise.

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Postby Kubra » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:23 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Kubra wrote: You haven't either, so you have as little authority on the subject as I.

So, why are you trolling on a serious thread like this?
>implying I am trolling.

There are many things worse than death, and many situations where death is reasonably preferable.
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Postby Underium » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:23 pm

Risna wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
WHOA. Stop. If they can't reconcile their views as adults, then that was their problem. An 8 year old can't be at fault for that. Also, miscarriages that happened before you were born have even less to do with you.

What GPA did you graduate with?

3.3 But all my friends were in honors some had like 3.8 I was the least intelligent in my group and that hurt a lot.

3.3!!! i wish i had those kind of grades!!! Your really smart.

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Postby Risna » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:24 pm

I think i will talk to my brother. I think i have to go to the hospital. That would be best...
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Postby Norstal » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:25 pm

Risna wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
WHOA. Stop. If they can't reconcile their views as adults, then that was their problem. An 8 year old can't be at fault for that. Also, miscarriages that happened before you were born have even less to do with you.

What GPA did you graduate with?

3.3 But all my friends were in honors some had like 3.8 I was the least intelligent in my group and that hurt a lot.

Heh, I thought I was an idiot when all of my other friends had like 4.0+ GPA.

Look, it doesn't matter. Say to yourself "fuck them all, I'm better than them."

Do you seriously have no talent at all? Nothing you can think of? Drawing, writing, math? Because I know you do have one.
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:25 pm

Risna wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
WHOA. Stop. If they can't reconcile their views as adults, then that was their problem. An 8 year old can't be at fault for that. Also, miscarriages that happened before you were born have even less to do with you.

What GPA did you graduate with?

3.3 But all my friends were in honors some had like 3.8 I was the least intelligent in my group and that hurt a lot.


That doesn't mean you were less intelligent. I only graduated with a 2.98. By all rights I should be in your position right now. Most likely the discrepancy was caused by you lack of self esteem. Self sabotage and what not. What you need to do is stop feeling bad about the fact you haven't done anything with your life that hasn't even really started yet, and do something.

Are you in school?

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:26 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Lots of people haven't done anything useful yet at that age. You will find something to do with yourself and life will get better.


Fuck I'm 23 and haven't done anything useful yet.


I didn't do anything useful until I was 21, and even then I didn't exactly save the world. Just taught some English classes at a Chinese middle school and wandered around northern China.
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:27 pm

Kubra wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:So, why are you trolling on a serious thread like this?
>implying I am trolling.

There are many things worse than death, and many situations where death is reasonably preferable.


Dude, not the time.

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Postby Underium » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:27 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Fuck I'm 23 and haven't done anything useful yet.


I didn't do anything useful until I was 21, and even then I didn't exactly save the world. Just taught some English classes at a Chinese middle school and wandered around northern China.

The military is really a good option, i used to be like you, depressed, even suicidal, then i learned about the oppurtunities of the marien core and i snapped out of it.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:28 pm

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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:29 pm

Risna wrote:I think i will talk to my brother. I think i have to go to the hospital. That would be best...


Do the first part.

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Postby Risna » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:29 pm

My brother is not home right now... He must have just left for work. I am alone in the house i cant drive like this... guess you guys are stuck with me a bit longer.
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Postby Hydesland » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:30 pm

Risna wrote:My brother is not home right now... He must have just left for work. I am alone in the house i cant drive like this... guess you guys are stuck with me a bit longer.


Have a beer, watch a film and eat some pizza.
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Postby Kubra » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:30 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Kubra wrote: >implying I am trolling.

There are many things worse than death, and many situations where death is reasonably preferable.


Dude, not the time.
You are suggesting we sugarcoat reality to make it seem preferable, as though his situation can only be alleviated through ignorance.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:31 pm

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
Risna wrote:18 going on 19

Dude. this really is one of the hardest ages. It gets better. Seems like you are having problems with depression, you may even be bipolar & suffering from dramatic mood swings. I have friends that are bipolar, it starts out like a bitch, but it can be treated & they both find happiness.


I had that kind of problems when I was 18 and 19 and was on medication for about a year, but these days, I am doing a lot better and don't need the meds anymore.
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Postby Risna » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:31 pm

Ok im going to call the hotline i will be back...
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Postby Yootwopia » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:31 pm

Risna wrote:I really do not care what the mods say or do. I know i will probably get banned and get in trouble for this but i need your help again. My life I just can't take it is just too unbearable. For a long time i have suffered with a low self esteem. I devalue myself I see myself as dirt, as scum as a parasite. I hardly consider myself worthy of life I am the lowest thing on earth. This has been on and off for a few years. I have a strong urge to hurt myself too punish myself for living, i should have not been born. I am just taking up space, air, food. I only thing i can give in return is worry, pain, and suffering to those i live. I have found value in life only through others not myself. I live for my friends my family. They would be too sad if I was gone that is the ONLY reason why i live today. That is the only reason why i am here I have no value of self. I talked to my psychologist and she did not help me. I thought of all the ways i could off myself right now. I could stab myself with my pocket knife, i could over dose on Tylenol, I could allow myself to get run over by a bus. I am just in so much suffering right now i want to end it. I know i would not be missed anyway what have i done to benefit the world? But on the other hand i dont want to end it? it would eliminate my suffering but how much it would cause? every person i know would be affected. My friends and family would be devastated probably. I dont know what to do please help me before i hurt myself help me... help me....

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Postby Hydesland » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:32 pm

Kubra wrote: You are suggesting we sugarcoat reality to make it seem preferable, as though his situation can only be alleviated through ignorance.


Pedantic non sequiturs about the relative 'badness' of death vs other phenomenon is wholly irrelevant.

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Postby Seperates » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:33 pm

Kubra wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Dude, not the time.
You are suggesting we sugarcoat reality to make it seem preferable, as though his situation can only be alleviated through ignorance.

^ Agreed. I myself have contomplated suicide...the best short-term fix is to remember all the good things that you have, and glory in the fact that at least you have the time to be depressed. In other countries, you would be to worried about where your next meal is coming from to be depressed.
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