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The Positives of George W. Bush's Presidencies

Postby Sorvasia » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:04 pm

His two-terms as President of the United States of America have been met with heightened controversy, such as the issue of rigged elections back at 2000, the Iraq and Afghanistan Conflicts, and generally his lack of professionalism in the political and international diplomacy spectrums.

However, with all of his numerous criticisms and mistakes, I wonder, did Bush ever implement or enact anything legislative-wise that has either improved or generally increased the way-of-living for Americans?

NSG, in your opinion, do you think Bush ever did anything positive for the USA or for the entire world for that matter?

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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:05 pm

Well, Iraq is much better off than they once were, but one can question whether it was worth all of the American and Iraqi civilian casualties.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:06 pm

There was the shoe-throwing incident.

That was pretty funny.
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:07 pm

He left the presidency that was pretty good.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:07 pm

Some people like Medicare part D?

I don't.

I liked the Bush tax cuts, if only they hadn't been coupled with irresponsible spending.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:08 pm

Sorvasia wrote:NSG, in your opinion, do you think Bush ever did anything positive for the USA or for the entire world for that matter?


Oh certainly. Bush did a lot to unite the whole world. Where normally putting a Frenchman, a Brit and a German in a room would lead to 5 different opinions - they could at least all agree that Bush was a stupid fuckwit ;)
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:09 pm

He was against Cap and Trade, I'll give him credit for that.

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Postby The Chaos Heart » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:10 pm

The good things about his presidency?

I can think of a few.
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Postby Baltravia » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:11 pm

Bush had one redeeming feature. He was occasionally (albeit unintentionally) amusing. That's more than I can say about his successor.

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Postby Wienholdland » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:11 pm

He lowered taxes. That's pretty much it.

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Postby Duffys » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:12 pm

January 20th 2009, when he left office

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:12 pm

Wienholdland wrote:He lowered taxes. That's pretty much it.

Except that by lowering taxes he killed our first budget surplus in forever.
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Postby Wienholdland » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:13 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
Wienholdland wrote:He lowered taxes. That's pretty much it.

Except that by lowering taxes he killed our first budget surplus in forever.
If he didn't spend like a Democrat, that wouldn't of been a problem.

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:14 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Except that by lowering taxes he killed our first budget surplus in forever.
If he didn't spend like a Democrat, that wouldn't of been a problem.

You mean like Clinton?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:16 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Except that by lowering taxes he killed our first budget surplus in forever.
If he didn't spend like a Democrat, that wouldn't of been a problem.

Aren't Republicans traditionally the wasteful ones - but just better at blaming others ?
Let us ask Miss Palin when she returns from her tax-payer funded shopping trip by private plane :)
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Postby Zilam » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:17 pm

He....well...um...uh......NINE ELEVEN!! DON'T FORGET.
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Postby Wienholdland » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:17 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
Wienholdland wrote:If he didn't spend like a Democrat, that wouldn't of been a problem.

You mean like Clinton?
More like Obama.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:18 pm

Baltravia wrote:Bush had one redeeming feature. He was occasionally (albeit unintentionally) amusing. That's more than I can say about his successor.

I don't look to the President for stand-up comedy.
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Postby Wamitoria » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:18 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:You mean like Clinton?
More like Obama.

Guys, I don't think this is the thread for this sort of discussion.
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Postby Baltravia » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:18 pm

Mussoliniopoli wrote:He left the presidency that was pretty good.


Not that anything substantive has changed (the PATRIOT Act remains in place, TSA agents continue to molest and humiliate innocent people, Guantanamo remains open, Pakistanis are still being blown up by drones, the war in Afghanistan rages on, there are still troops in Iraq, the incestuous relationship between Wall Street and the federal government remains unchanged, the U.S. still has troops in over 130 countries, unconditional support of Israel continues, the Fed's disastrous policies remain in place, the federal government continues to mushroom in size, the national debt is skyrocketing, etc., etc.).

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Postby Sorvasia » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:18 pm

Baltravia wrote:Bush had one redeeming feature. He was occasionally (albeit unintentionally) amusing. That's more than I can say about his successor.


I have to admit, as a staunch critic of Republican politicians, Bush was the only reason why I would take the nerve to watch through all of his speeches, whether it be the State of the Union Address or just a speech to the press; his clumsiness attracted the attention of the American people, and certainly me.

I also theorize that his lack of professionalism as president led to his inauguration for the second term as President, because he had gained so much supporters, mainly from common folk, who had at least respected Bush for not acting like some grunt Yale-graduate and being a renegade when it came to acting like a dignitary.

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Postby Baltravia » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:19 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Baltravia wrote:Bush had one redeeming feature. He was occasionally (albeit unintentionally) amusing. That's more than I can say about his successor.

I don't look to the President for stand-up comedy.


I don't, either. But he was such a dunce, I couldn't help but chuckle.

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Postby The Chaos Heart » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:19 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:You mean like Clinton?
More like Obama.


Yeah, but Obama's more of a socialist than a democrat. Even many democrats are frustrated with him. Try an earlier example. Maybe like F.D.R.? He's really the beginning of big government spending and the modern American system. A time frame between F.D.R. and Bush jr. should be used I think in this debate.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:20 pm

Baltravia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I don't look to the President for stand-up comedy.


I don't, either. But he was such a dunce, I couldn't help but chuckle.

That made him an embarrassment. I did hear it said that he never screwed up speeches on issues he cared about.
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:21 pm

Wienholdland wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:You mean like Clinton?
More like Obama.

But Clinton created that surplus, Clinton was a Democrat, QED, it was spending like a Republican that killed the surplus. Hell, by your own comparison, Bush came first.

Hell, some of my very complaints about Obama was that he continued things like Bailout and Stimulus, policies begun under Bush.

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