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California-Nevada
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Postby California-Nevada » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:17 am

I am an Atheist, and proud.
Time: PT (1850-1880)
Capital: Los Angeles,California-Carson City,Nevada
Language(s): English, Cree
Government: Confederation
President(s):
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    Nevada: Eden Smith
Legislature: High Congress Of The Two State Union, State Congress Of California, State Congress Of Nevada.
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January 24, 1836. Independence Declared
February 12,1836. Grand Revolt Begins.
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Area:286,797 sq mi
Territories: Hawaii, East Polynesia.

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Azbaga
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Postby Azbaga » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:20 am

Socialist Jew here.

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Kubrath
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Postby Kubrath » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:22 am

I believe in true democracy and the moral values of Christianity (just the values not the religion itself).
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Forlon
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Postby Forlon » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:28 am

I was wiccan for around 2 years, I was pretty eclectic. Wiccans are generally cool people in my experience, which is not much so maybe not take it as a general statement about all--I'm sure they have bad parts like all other religions/beliefs. I've been quite a few different religions and of different beliefs at different times, I'm an occultist really and would like to maybe study religions as a profession. In between religious beliefs I've held I've been atheist in between all of them, I guess give me a chance to reflect on what I've learned about that religion and then to see what I still believe afterwards. I may be wrong, I may be right, it might not even matter. I kind of long for death, not in a suicidal way, just to see what comes after all this...if anything

(took me forever to find that from the other religion thread a few months back.)

Politically I'd say I'm pretty liberal, somewhat authoritarian. *shrugs*
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Terra Agora
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:55 am

Ozarkallaia wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:Still a contradiction.

Unrestricted capitalism would be laissez faire. There are no tarrifs and other forms of "protectionism" in laissez faire.


It is not contradictory to oppose economic regulations on domestic commerce, but to have high tariffs on imported goods.

Tariffs is a form of regulation. You do not support laissez faire. You are contradicting yourself to say "unrestricted capitalism" and then to say "high tariffs on foreign goods".
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“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
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Terra Agora
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:56 am

Zirconim wrote:Religiously, an odd mix of Agnosticism and Christianity. Like a really open-minded Christian.


Deist?
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“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
"The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind." - H.P. Lovecraft
"Morality is a device for controlling the gullible with words." - L A Rollins

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Terra Agora
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:57 am

Exemplis wrote:Pandeist.

When I was a theist I was a pandeist. ;)
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“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
"The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind." - H.P. Lovecraft
"Morality is a device for controlling the gullible with words." - L A Rollins

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SaintB
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Postby SaintB » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:01 am

If I have to define things in terms of a religion my beliefs are similar to Jainism. To me integrity and compassion are important.
Hi my name is SaintB and I am prone to sarcasm and hyperbole. Because of this I make no warranties, express or implied, concerning the accuracy, completeness, reliability or suitability of the above statement, of its constituent parts, or of any supporting data. These terms are subject to change without notice from myself.

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Adamengard
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Postby Adamengard » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:53 am

I'm a libertarian capitalist, who also happens to be an atheist.

I follow the religion of Danhannanism. :bow:

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Distruzio
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:49 am

Terra Agora wrote:Moral and existential nihilist.

Egoist

Agnostic atheist

Stirnerite market anarchist

EDIT (twice now):

I've also been influenced by LeVayen Satanism.

Forgot to mention I support Social Darwinism. No not that racist trash, I'll explain if need be.


I was a LaVeyan way back when. I was until I visited a grotto in which they practiced the magical rites and claimed to accurately delve into the enochian keys. I can barely tolerate fiction. If it is fiction, it has got to be based on reality, hence my pmt nation. So magic is a no go for me.
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capitalism is not natural
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Meryuma
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Postby Meryuma » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:01 pm

Harata wrote:Religiously, I'm a Lutheran. Politically, I believe in a federalist ideology in which the states (or provinces, territories, or whatever you call them) have significant sovereignty from the national government. Economically, I believe in mostly laissez-faire capitalism, with heavy objectivist influences. Socially, I'm mostly social libertarian, with some exceptions (pro-life, keeping status quo on drug laws). I have other beliefs on other issues, of course, but these are the ones I consider important.


Being socially libertarian except for drug laws is a pretty fucking big "except".

Terra Agora wrote:
Ozarkallaia wrote:
It is not contradictory to oppose economic regulations on domestic commerce, but to have high tariffs on imported goods.

Tariffs is a form of regulation. You do not support laissez faire. You are contradicting yourself to say "unrestricted capitalism" and then to say "high tariffs on foreign goods".


Ironic, then, that laissez-faire applied consistently would have capitalism tumble to the ground.
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Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

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*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

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Terra Agora
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:38 pm

Meryuma wrote:
Harata wrote:Religiously, I'm a Lutheran. Politically, I believe in a federalist ideology in which the states (or provinces, territories, or whatever you call them) have significant sovereignty from the national government. Economically, I believe in mostly laissez-faire capitalism, with heavy objectivist influences. Socially, I'm mostly social libertarian, with some exceptions (pro-life, keeping status quo on drug laws). I have other beliefs on other issues, of course, but these are the ones I consider important.


Being socially libertarian except for drug laws is a pretty fucking big "except".

Terra Agora wrote:Tariffs is a form of regulation. You do not support laissez faire. You are contradicting yourself to say "unrestricted capitalism" and then to say "high tariffs on foreign goods".


Ironic, then, that laissez-faire applied consistently would have capitalism tumble to the ground.

Capitalism doesn't require tariffs, nor would it collapse in the absence of tariffs.
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My Beliefs
“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
"The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind." - H.P. Lovecraft
"Morality is a device for controlling the gullible with words." - L A Rollins

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Terra Agora
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:41 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:Moral and existential nihilist.

Egoist

Agnostic atheist

Stirnerite market anarchist

EDIT (twice now):

I've also been influenced by LeVayen Satanism.

Forgot to mention I support Social Darwinism. No not that racist trash, I'll explain if need be.


I was a LaVeyan way back when. I was until I visited a grotto in which they practiced the magical rites and claimed to accurately delve into the enochian keys. I can barely tolerate fiction. If it is fiction, it has got to be based on reality, hence my pmt nation. So magic is a no go for me.

Yeah from what I have read its strayed from its original path. LeVay wanted the "magic" to be a symbol just like "Satan" and now you have people who take the wole "magic" seriously. He didn't deny that you manipulate using tricks etc but the whole magic was just for symbols. Well that what I got out of it, I could be wrong. Either or LeVay is quite the interesting character.
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My Beliefs
“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
"The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind." - H.P. Lovecraft
"Morality is a device for controlling the gullible with words." - L A Rollins

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Occupied Deutschland
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:54 pm

http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-con ... 5x1024.jpg

I find myself hovering between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Neutral :p
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Meryuma
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Postby Meryuma » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:01 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
Being socially libertarian except for drug laws is a pretty fucking big "except".



Ironic, then, that laissez-faire applied consistently would have capitalism tumble to the ground.

Capitalism doesn't require tariffs, nor would it collapse in the absence of tariffs.


I wasn't speaking of tariffs alone, but of all state intervention.

Occupied Deutschland wrote:http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/alignment-philosophers-2-825x1024.jpg

I find myself hovering between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Neutral :p


How is Rand lawful evil? She strikes me more as chaotic neutral... Lawful Evil would be Hobbes, IMO, with Lawful Neutral being Plato.
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Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

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Occupied Deutschland
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:04 pm

Meryuma wrote:How is Rand lawful evil? She strikes me more as chaotic neutral... Lawful Evil would be Hobbes, IMO, with Lawful Neutral being Plato.

That actually struck me too, whoever made the graphic seems to be a bit shallow in their understanding. Hobbes would definitely be a more appropriate "Lawful Evil" but, what'cha gonna do right?
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Tokyoni
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Postby Tokyoni » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:21 pm

Positivist, Humanist, Anti-Imperialist, Juche Socialist. (All of which I see as directly entailing and complementing one another)

To quote Great Leader Kim Il-Sung: "The people are my God."

And any deity that may by some small probability might happen to exist that's either indifferent to or complicit in human suffering can shove it. Death to all oppressors, human or otherwise. xD
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Postby Arbites » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:36 pm

Well in politics, I vote Regressive. For example, I'm against abortion, but for killing babies.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:37 pm

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Postby Beldonia » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:39 pm

I believe in God and that he created the universe. I believe that Minoriteeburg is the champion of NSG. I believe that democracy, capitalism and baseball are fantastic. And I believe that Ollie North is one of the all time greatest Americans.

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Postby Caecili » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:41 pm

Beldonia wrote:I believe in God and that he created the universe. I believe that Minoriteeburg is the champion of NSG. I believe that democracy, capitalism and baseball are fantastic. And I believe that Ollie North is one of the all time greatest Americans.


We agree on something! :D
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Terra Agora
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Postby Terra Agora » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:41 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:http://www.titaniumteddybear.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/alignment-philosophers-2-825x1024.jpg

I find myself hovering between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Neutral :p

Im everything from Chaotic Neutral to Chaotic Evil and everything in between.
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“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
"The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind." - H.P. Lovecraft
"Morality is a device for controlling the gullible with words." - L A Rollins

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Beldonia
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Postby Beldonia » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:42 pm

Caecili wrote:
Beldonia wrote:I believe in God and that he created the universe. I believe that Minoriteeburg is the champion of NSG. I believe that democracy, capitalism and baseball are fantastic. And I believe that Ollie North is one of the all time greatest Americans.


We agree on something! :D

Alert the presses! :)

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Xarithis
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Postby Xarithis » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:50 pm

The Chaos Heart wrote:I'm curious. What are your beliefs? Why do you believe that? Religious, Philisophical, ect. I, for instance, am a Nihilist. I wonder how many people on here are the same...

Religiously, Apatheist. Egotheist when my delusions of godhood get strong enough.

I am a Moral Relativist, with my personal moral code being heavily influenced by insanity.
"I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it."

Until I stop procrastinating and write a Factbook, here are a few basic facts of Xarithis for reference:

Form of Government: Dictatorship
RP Population: 40,444,305
Economic System: Mixed, Leaning toward State Capitalism

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Ctha-lu
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Postby Ctha-lu » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:54 pm

I'm not sure if im an agnostic or not. :?:

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