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Re: God exists?

Postby The Black Wasteland » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:31 pm

Its a hard question, I would say yes but without as much power as we seem to give them, there has to be some being because if the universe has always been then we would have never reached this time, therefore it had to have been created. Even if this world is just someone's imagination.
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Postby Enadail » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:32 pm

Altergo wrote:Or there are numerous heavens and hells, one of each for each religion, and you will be judged the way that religion judges people


But then no religion is completely right, just somewhat right, as many claim that they are the right religion.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:32 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Altergo wrote:You can combine science and religion. I mean if you look at the Big Bang Theory and Genesis there are some similarities.


No, you really can't. But you can accept each by keeping them separate.


You can keep them separate but I don't think compartmentalization of the mind is a healthy practice, so I looked at them together and concluded that they can't be put together and that I must choose one or the other if I want a coherent worldview. Since religion alone is incoherent, I went with science.
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Re: God exists?

Postby Altergo » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:33 pm

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Point being that any religion could be right, and any religion can be wrong.

Or all religions are right



Or that " only " faith in Jesus is the only way to Heaven. :eyebrow:[/quote]
Hey, i go to church, I'm a christian, I just act neutral towards other religions.

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Postby Enadail » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:33 pm

Kormanthor wrote:Or that " only " faith in Jesus is the only way to Heaven. :eyebrow:


So.... you've got nothing left to say but to ask us to be open minded while you keep yours shut. kthxbye

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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:33 pm

Altergo wrote:

Why not? Perhaps the afterlife is exactly what you believe it to be and your place in it is exactly where you believe you deserve to be. Maybe faith is the only thing that matters.

Or there are numerous heavens and hells, one of each for each religion, and you will be judged the way that religion judges people[/quote]

Thats the lie that Satan wants you to believe so he won't be stuck in hell with just the fallen angels. Faith in Jesus is the only way .... there is no other way.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:33 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:At least until we get the LHC working again. ;)


Do you mean that the LHC will disprove god or that the LHC will open a portal to heaven?
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Postby Altergo » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:34 pm

Enadail wrote:
Altergo wrote:Or there are numerous heavens and hells, one of each for each religion, and you will be judged the way that religion judges people


But then no religion is completely right, just somewhat right, as many claim that they are the right religion.

Yeah, that's been proved in history

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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:35 pm

Enadail wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:Or that " only " faith in Jesus is the only way to Heaven. :eyebrow:


So.... you've got nothing left to say but to ask us to be open minded while you keep yours shut. kthxbye


Why should I open my mind to lies straight from hell ?

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Postby Enadail » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:36 pm

Kormanthor wrote: Thats the lie that Satan wants you to believe so he won't be stuck in hell with just the fallen angels. Faith in Jesus is the only way .... there is no other way.


Is preaching against the rules of this forum? At the least, I'm pretty sure this is now trolling? I wish the ability to quote properly was at least warnable...

Kormanthor wrote:Why should I open my mind to lies straight from hell ?


I'm from hell now? Given how you're presenting your religion, that's pretty high praise.
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Postby Altergo » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:37 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
Altergo wrote:

Why not? Perhaps the afterlife is exactly what you believe it to be and your place in it is exactly where you believe you deserve to be. Maybe faith is the only thing that matters.

Or there are numerous heavens and hells, one of each for each religion, and you will be judged the way that religion judges people


Thats the lie that Satan wants you to believe so he won't be stuck in hell with just the fallen angels. Faith in Jesus is the only way .... there is no other way. [/quote]
Your quotes are wrong, i never wrote that, and i why are you pointing me out, all of these other people have said "Heresy" but you haven't pointed them out. Picking on a fellow christian i assume.

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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:39 pm

Is repetedly writing threads asking if God really exists Trolling ? I'm just answering the question that was asked.

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Postby Maurepas » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:40 pm

Kormanthor wrote: Is repetedly writing threads asking if God really exists Trolling ? I'm just answering the question that was asked.

If it is by the same person, yes, yes it is, and will be treated as such, I assure you....

However, this hasnt been the case, as opposed to your answers, ;)

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Postby Omega Uliza » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:40 pm

Enadail wrote:
Kormanthor wrote: Thats the lie that Satan wants you to believe so he won't be stuck in hell with just the fallen angels. Faith in Jesus is the only way .... there is no other way.


Is preaching against the rules of this forum? At the least, I'm pretty sure this is now trolling? I wish the ability to quote properly was at least warnable...

Kormanthor wrote:Why should I open my mind to lies straight from hell ?


I'm from hell now? Given how you're presenting your religion, that's pretty high praise.


If it was...we wouldn't have to worry about people constantly stating the weirdest of things...like..

I don't know...continual statements with no evidence?
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Postby Enadail » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:41 pm

Kormanthor wrote:Is repetedly writing threads asking if God really exists Trolling ? I'm just answering the question that was asked


You're no longer answering the question, just preaching.

Evidence or even debate would be welcome.

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Postby Phenia » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:43 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
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But that doesn't prove that God exists. Just like what the whole thread is about.


I don't have to prove God exist, you have to prove to me that he doesn't. :)


I don't have to prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, you have to prove to me he doesn't. :) :) :) :)

Kormanthor wrote:Why should I open my mind to lies straight from hell ?


Because dismissing opponents as being "straight from hell" and "liars" is just an ad hominem fallacy. I might as well just dismiss you as being a lunatic. Except of course, that lunatics exist, while hell is a mythical fairy land.

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Postby Omega Uliza » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:43 pm

Kormanthor wrote: Is repetedly writing threads asking if God really exists Trolling ? I'm just answering the question that was asked.


I think it is...considering you're not contributing to the debate. You're just providing your opinion. Your opinion is nice and respected due to your right of having an opinion. But this is where intelligent people contribute to the furtherment of thought...and well...your replies are little more than the annoying child standing by the adult's table during dinner time.

I don't mean that in a rude way, but if it comes across that way, I apologize. You need to say something worthy of debate, not just conversation.
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Re: God exists?

Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:43 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Altergo wrote:You can combine science and religion. I mean if you look at the Big Bang Theory and Genesis there are some similarities.


No, you really can't. But you can accept each by keeping them separate.


You can keep them separate but I don't think compartmentalization of the mind is a healthy practice, so I looked at them together and concluded that they can't be put together and that I must choose one or the other if I want a coherent worldview. Since religion alone is incoherent, I went with science.


One of the benefits of being me is that I have a much less firm view of God and Jesus than you'll find in your organized religions so I really don't find much contradiction. Hence very little compartmentalization if any. For example, it really doesn't bother me at all when science contradicts the Bible, because I've pretty much already ruled out it being inerrant anyway. Even if Science weren't around, I would have rejected the one dimensional characaitures of almighty deities anyway. I think it's an insult to think that a hypothetical being like God could possibly be so petty.
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Postby Kormanthor » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:43 pm

Altergo wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Altergo wrote:

Why not? Perhaps the afterlife is exactly what you believe it to be and your place in it is exactly where you believe you deserve to be. Maybe faith is the only thing that matters.

Or there are numerous heavens and hells, one of each for each religion, and you will be judged the way that religion judges people


Thats the lie that Satan wants you to believe so he won't be stuck in hell with just the fallen angels. Faith in Jesus is the only way .... there is no other way.

Your quotes are wrong, i never wrote that, and i why are you pointing me out, all of these other people have said "Heresy" but you haven't pointed them out. Picking on a fellow christian i assume.[/quote]

Christians believe that Christ Jesus is the only way to Heaven, that is all I was trying to point out.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:44 pm

Kormanthor wrote: I guess we know where your going if you don't change that bad attitude don't we ? :eyebrow:


Apparently, for all your patronising preachy-ness, you've never actually read your bible.
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Postby Maurepas » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:44 pm

Phenia wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Omega Uliza wrote:

But that doesn't prove that God exists. Just like what the whole thread is about.


I don't have to prove God exist, you have to prove to me that he doesn't. :)


I don't have to prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, you have to prove to me he doesn't. :) :) :) :)

But the flying spaghetti monster does exist! He is the only way to get into heaven, and all who commit heresy towards it, and his pirates, you will go to hell!!!

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Postby Maurepas » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:45 pm

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Christians believe that Christ Jesus is the only way to Heaven, that is all I was trying to point out.

And it has been shown that that belief is just as valid or invalid as any other, you simply keep stating it as if this is not the case, ;)

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:47 pm

Kormanthor wrote:
Omega Uliza wrote:

But that doesn't prove that God exists. Just like what the whole thread is about.


I don't have to prove God exist, you have to prove to me that he doesn't. :)


No one has to prove he doesn't exist, unless you're also going to argue that we NEED to disprove the existence of fairies, goblins, and little green men.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:47 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:At least until we get the LHC working again. ;)


Do you mean that the LHC will disprove god or that the LHC will open a portal to heaven?


Yes. :)
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Postby Omega Uliza » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:47 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Kormanthor wrote:
Christians believe that Christ Jesus is the only way to Heaven, that is all I was trying to point out.

And it has been shown that that belief is just as valid or invalid as any other, you simply keep stating it as if this is not the case, ;)


That's a much nicer way of saying it than I did...
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