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Who would you _currently_ vote for?

Conservatives
73
21%
Labour
71
21%
Liberal Democrats
47
14%
UKIP
57
17%
Greens [England & Wales, Scotland, or NI]
39
11%
SNP
19
6%
Plaid Cymru
3
1%
Northern Ireland SF/SDLP
11
3%
Northern Ireland DUP/UUP
2
1%
Other (please explain)
18
5%
 
Total votes : 340

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Frasers
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Founded: Apr 30, 2015
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Postby Frasers » Wed May 06, 2015 4:06 pm

Alyakia wrote:you could probably get away with anlgophone and... uh... welshophone? yeah that one does sound weird.


cambrophone

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Atlanticatia
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Founded: Mar 01, 2014
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Postby Atlanticatia » Wed May 06, 2015 4:06 pm

my prediction:

Purple wave across Scotland with UKIP winning at least 50 seats there!
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95

Pros: social democracy, LGBT+ rights, pro-choice, free education and health care, environmentalism, Nordic model, secularism, welfare state, multiculturalism
Cons: social conservatism, neoliberalism, hate speech, racism, sexism, 'right-to-work' laws, religious fundamentalism
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Alyakia
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Founded: Jul 12, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Alyakia » Wed May 06, 2015 4:08 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMpl7eDEeYg - some people say they don't click uncommented youtube links. i assure you that you need to click this one if you want to actually understand this election.

Frasers wrote:
Alyakia wrote:you could probably get away with anlgophone and... uh... welshophone? yeah that one does sound weird.


cambrophone


cymphone

...

yeah i can see why that won't catch on
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pro: good
anti: bad

The UK and EU are Better Together

"Margaret Thatcher showed the world that women are not too soft or the weaker sex, and can be as heartless, horrible, and amoral as any male politician."

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Pesda
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Wed May 06, 2015 4:10 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Pesda wrote:In the paper today there was a story about Nathan Gill, the leader of UKIP in Wales. He said that Welsh speakers shouldn't say they're more Welsh than the non-Wesh speakers*. Funny thing is I've not heard any Welsh speaker say something of the sort I guess he is just trying to create tension.

*To make it more clear what that means; the "Cymry Cymraeg" shouldn't say they're more "Cymreig" than they "Cymru di-Gymraeg." The English language is annoying when there's not three different words for a language, a people, and a culture.


you could probably get away with anlgophone and... uh... welshophone? yeah that one does sound weird.

True I forgot about that word. But are there words in the English language for me to make a distinction between a people and a culture? If there is that would be useful.
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Ikania
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Posts: 3692
Founded: Jun 28, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ikania » Wed May 06, 2015 4:12 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:snip

And so I bestow upon you the title of Arch the footsoldier. I've always liked the LibDems, especially their platform, but their coalition with the Tories hasn't proven to be good so far. But of course, this is because the Conservatives are dominating the coalition, and Nick Clegg does not have a spine. The Liberal Democrats have always been left leaning, and their current campaign promises are ambitious, and I like them.

But the only way to enact these magnificent reforms is if the LibDems get a voice- a chance to shine and not be pushed aside from the rightists that only allied with them because they had to. A Labour-LD coalition is a very viable option, and it hinges on a few things; Labour keeping enough seats in Scotland, the LibDems not getting completely crushed and Labour getting more votes than the Tories, no matter by how much a margin.

Only time will tell how this will go down.
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Valaran
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Founded: May 25, 2014
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Postby Valaran » Wed May 06, 2015 4:17 pm

Avaerilon wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:Hwaet.

It will come as no surprise to anyone paying attention to this thread and its predecessor that I'll be voting Liberal Democrat tomorrow.



Me too, and you've essentially summarised the reasons for my doing so.


And this has summarised my reasons for voting lib-dem (in my first general election) too.

Even though it will make no difference in a Labour Marginal.
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
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Alyakia
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Posts: 18422
Founded: Jul 12, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Alyakia » Wed May 06, 2015 4:22 pm

when my kids ask me what my biggest shame in life is my eyes will turn blank, i will stare into the distance and whisper in a somber tone

cleggmaniaaaaaaaaaaaa
pro: good
anti: bad

The UK and EU are Better Together

"Margaret Thatcher showed the world that women are not too soft or the weaker sex, and can be as heartless, horrible, and amoral as any male politician."

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Dejanic
Senator
 
Posts: 4677
Founded: Nov 20, 2012
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Postby Dejanic » Wed May 06, 2015 4:26 pm

I quite like the Lib Dems in some areas, and frankly I prefer them to Labour on quite a few non economic issues. Pre 2010 Lib Dems when they were more based around Social Liberalism, as opposed to "Orange Book Liberalism" were pretty decent.

If Labour elected a centre-right third way shill like Tristram Hunt, then I'd probably support a Farron led Lib Dems over Labour at that point.
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Frasers
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Founded: Apr 30, 2015
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Postby Frasers » Wed May 06, 2015 4:27 pm

Alyakia wrote:when my kids ask me what my biggest shame in life is my eyes will turn blank, i will stare into the distance and whisper in a somber tone

cleggmaniaaaaaaaaaaaa


I was about to come here and say I wished I'd voted Lib Dem now, but you've reminded my why I was right cheers mate

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Pesda
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Wed May 06, 2015 4:30 pm

Frasers wrote:
Alyakia wrote:when my kids ask me what my biggest shame in life is my eyes will turn blank, i will stare into the distance and whisper in a somber tone

cleggmaniaaaaaaaaaaaa


I was about to come here and say I wished I'd voted Lib Dem now, but you've reminded my why I was right cheers mate

Who did you vote for?
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Alyakia
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Founded: Jul 12, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Alyakia » Wed May 06, 2015 4:34 pm

personally my vote is a covenant between me and the ballot box, a secret ballot the result of which shall never be revealed
pro: good
anti: bad

The UK and EU are Better Together

"Margaret Thatcher showed the world that women are not too soft or the weaker sex, and can be as heartless, horrible, and amoral as any male politician."

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Ikania
Senator
 
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Founded: Jun 28, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Ikania » Wed May 06, 2015 4:39 pm

I'd support a John Cleese-led Liberal Democrat Party.
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Executive Advisor in The League.
Proud soldier in the service of The Grey Wardens.
Three-time Defendervision winner. NSG Senate veteran.
Knuckle-dragging fuckstick from a backwater GCR. #SPRDNZ
Land Value Tax would fix this
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Frasers
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Founded: Apr 30, 2015
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Postby Frasers » Wed May 06, 2015 4:48 pm

Alyakia wrote:personally my vote is a covenant between me and the ballot box, a secret ballot the result of which shall never be revealed


but you literally never shutup about the national front and booting all the pakis out

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Frasers
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Postby Frasers » Wed May 06, 2015 4:49 pm

Pesda wrote:Who did you vote for?


The meme party

(the Greens)

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Pesda
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Wed May 06, 2015 4:51 pm

Frasers wrote:
Pesda wrote:Who did you vote for?


The meme party

(the Greens)

Cool. Much cooler than Libdems.
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Die Volkstaat
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Founded: Apr 27, 2015
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Postby Die Volkstaat » Wed May 06, 2015 4:51 pm

When do the polls open? It's May 7th for y'all across the pond, though it's only 1am.
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-Economic Right: 6.25
-Social Liberal: -0.28
Pro: Nationalism, Zionism, LGBT, Racial Realism, Chicago School, Euroscepticism, British Unionism, Globalization, Atlanticism, Secularism, Humility
Anti: Socialism, Islam, Social Democracy, Multiculturalism, European Union, Naivety, Russia, Ed Miliband, David Cameron, Palestine

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Die Volkstaat
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Postby Die Volkstaat » Wed May 06, 2015 4:51 pm

Alyakia wrote:when my kids ask me what my biggest shame in life is my eyes will turn blank, i will stare into the distance and whisper in a somber tone

cleggmaniaaaaaaaaaaaa


You voted Clegg?
Who am I? | Travel Guide
Political Compass Malarkey
-Economic Right: 6.25
-Social Liberal: -0.28
Pro: Nationalism, Zionism, LGBT, Racial Realism, Chicago School, Euroscepticism, British Unionism, Globalization, Atlanticism, Secularism, Humility
Anti: Socialism, Islam, Social Democracy, Multiculturalism, European Union, Naivety, Russia, Ed Miliband, David Cameron, Palestine

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Pesda
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Wed May 06, 2015 4:52 pm

Die Volkstaat wrote:When do the polls open? It's May 7th for y'all across the pond, though it's only 1am.

It would be nice to vote now but I think it's 7 AM.
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Die Volkstaat
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Founded: Apr 27, 2015
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Postby Die Volkstaat » Wed May 06, 2015 4:52 pm

Pesda wrote:
Die Volkstaat wrote:When do the polls open? It's May 7th for y'all across the pond, though it's only 1am.

It would be nice to vote now but I think it's 7 AM.


Well, I'll probably be asleep. Feck, living on this side of the pond is tough.
Who am I? | Travel Guide
Political Compass Malarkey
-Economic Right: 6.25
-Social Liberal: -0.28
Pro: Nationalism, Zionism, LGBT, Racial Realism, Chicago School, Euroscepticism, British Unionism, Globalization, Atlanticism, Secularism, Humility
Anti: Socialism, Islam, Social Democracy, Multiculturalism, European Union, Naivety, Russia, Ed Miliband, David Cameron, Palestine

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Pesda
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Wed May 06, 2015 4:56 pm

Die Volkstaat wrote:
Pesda wrote:It would be nice to vote now but I think it's 7 AM.


Well, I'll probably be asleep. Feck, living on this side of the pond is tough.

You can see the results coming in at a sensible time but we'll have to stay up late.
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Frasers
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Founded: Apr 30, 2015
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Postby Frasers » Wed May 06, 2015 4:56 pm

Pesda wrote:Cool. Much cooler than Libdems.


But they have loads of stupid policies I don't agree with and I voted in a Labour Tory marginal ergggggggg

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Alyakia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18422
Founded: Jul 12, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Alyakia » Wed May 06, 2015 4:57 pm

Die Volkstaat wrote:
Alyakia wrote:when my kids ask me what my biggest shame in life is my eyes will turn blank, i will stare into the distance and whisper in a somber tone

cleggmaniaaaaaaaaaaaa


You voted Clegg?


well i voted lib dem, not clegg specifically
pro: good
anti: bad

The UK and EU are Better Together

"Margaret Thatcher showed the world that women are not too soft or the weaker sex, and can be as heartless, horrible, and amoral as any male politician."

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MERIZoC
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Founded: Dec 05, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby MERIZoC » Wed May 06, 2015 4:57 pm

Pesda wrote:
Die Volkstaat wrote:
Well, I'll probably be asleep. Feck, living on this side of the pond is tough.

You can see the results coming in at a sensible time but we'll have to stay up late.

Bwahahahahaha

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Die Volkstaat
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Founded: Apr 27, 2015
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Postby Die Volkstaat » Wed May 06, 2015 4:58 pm

Pesda wrote:
Die Volkstaat wrote:
Well, I'll probably be asleep. Feck, living on this side of the pond is tough.

You can see the results coming in at a sensible time but we'll have to stay up late.


That's probably true. If the results are in by 11pm for you folks, they'll probably be in by maybe 3:30 pm for me.
Who am I? | Travel Guide
Political Compass Malarkey
-Economic Right: 6.25
-Social Liberal: -0.28
Pro: Nationalism, Zionism, LGBT, Racial Realism, Chicago School, Euroscepticism, British Unionism, Globalization, Atlanticism, Secularism, Humility
Anti: Socialism, Islam, Social Democracy, Multiculturalism, European Union, Naivety, Russia, Ed Miliband, David Cameron, Palestine

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Frasers
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Founded: Apr 30, 2015
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Postby Frasers » Wed May 06, 2015 4:58 pm

Die Volkstaat wrote:Well, I'll probably be asleep. Feck, living on this side of the pond is tough.


You won't have to stay up that late to be honest, especially if you're west coast and therefore 8 hours behind us.

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