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Postby Vassenor » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:18 am

Fact-checking the Express' claims about the effects on the economy.

Or how data for periods ending in June apparently proves everything has been OK since.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:32 pm

'Diehard European' to lead Brexit talks for European parliament

The former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt has been appointed lead Brexit negotiator for the European parliament, as the other 27 EU member states gear up for the complex negotiations ahead.

Any deal on Britain’s new relationship with the rest of the EU after Brexit will have to be ratified by the European parliament, and Verhofstadt, regarded as a diehard European, will represent the views of MEPs from across the EU. He said he was “honoured” to take on the role.


So the EU is already pulling out the big guns for this, and in particular this guy's already nailed his colours to the mast over the "no access to the single market without free movement" issue. Who do we have?
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Postby Marcurix » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:40 pm

Vassenor wrote:'Diehard European' to lead Brexit talks for European parliament

The former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt has been appointed lead Brexit negotiator for the European parliament, as the other 27 EU member states gear up for the complex negotiations ahead.

Any deal on Britain’s new relationship with the rest of the EU after Brexit will have to be ratified by the European parliament, and Verhofstadt, regarded as a diehard European, will represent the views of MEPs from across the EU. He said he was “honoured” to take on the role.


So the EU is already pulling out the big guns for this, and in particular this guy's already nailed his colours to the mast over the "no access to the single market without free movement" issue. Who do we have?


Positive thinking and people with a questionable understanding of how the EU and economics work.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:49 pm

Vassenor wrote:'Diehard European' to lead Brexit talks for European parliament

The former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt has been appointed lead Brexit negotiator for the European parliament, as the other 27 EU member states gear up for the complex negotiations ahead.

Any deal on Britain’s new relationship with the rest of the EU after Brexit will have to be ratified by the European parliament, and Verhofstadt, regarded as a diehard European, will represent the views of MEPs from across the EU. He said he was “honoured” to take on the role.


So the EU is already pulling out the big guns for this, and in particular this guy's already nailed his colours to the mast over the "no access to the single market without free movement" issue. Who do we have?

Lying back and thinking of England?

Apparently Leave supporters' speciality.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:51 pm

Vassenor wrote:'Diehard European' to lead Brexit talks for European parliament

The former Belgian prime minister Guy Verhofstadt has been appointed lead Brexit negotiator for the European parliament, as the other 27 EU member states gear up for the complex negotiations ahead.

Any deal on Britain’s new relationship with the rest of the EU after Brexit will have to be ratified by the European parliament, and Verhofstadt, regarded as a diehard European, will represent the views of MEPs from across the EU. He said he was “honoured” to take on the role.


So the EU is already pulling out the big guns for this, and in particular this guy's already nailed his colours to the mast over the "no access to the single market without free movement" issue. Who do we have?


Open negotiations with waffles, and make sure not to call him French. :p
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:52 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
He said he's the reason we voted out. Are you saying he would lie to big himself up?


Well there are only three main figures that had a positive effect on the side they took in the Referendum. Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and yes in number three Donald J Trump. I'm trying not to laugh, but it's mighty hard when you realise Trump was a better weapon in the referendum than pretty much the entire remain side when dealing with major figures.

All Trump said on Brexit was "oh yeah, I think they should leave". Afterwards, he congratulated Scotland for something they were strongly against.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:43 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:'Diehard European' to lead Brexit talks for European parliament



So the EU is already pulling out the big guns for this, and in particular this guy's already nailed his colours to the mast over the "no access to the single market without free movement" issue. Who do we have?


Open negotiations with waffles, and make sure not to call him French. :p

So not Boris, then.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:43 am

Latest news from the think tanks:

Poorest developing countries could lose up to £323 million per year without UK trade deals post-Brexit

In a nutshell: Countries use the EU as a convenient way to access our markets; access that will be lost as things stand.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:45 am

Vassenor wrote:Latest news from the think tanks:

Poorest developing countries could lose up to £323 million per year without UK trade deals post-Brexit

In a nutshell: Countries use the EU as a convenient way to access our markets; access that will be lost as things stand.


Ok.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:36 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Open negotiations with waffles, and make sure not to call him French. :p

So not Boris, then.


By Royal decree, during the negotiations Mr Boris Johnson, former mayor of London, shall be tied to a chair with a full roll of the finest duct tape securing his mouth shut, with a television placed before him showing constant re-runs of the upper class scenes of Downton abbey.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:49 am


Why am I not surprised.
But that's enough Brexit discussion for me for one day. The absolute stupidity still haunts me.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:27 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:

Why am I not surprised.
But that's enough Brexit discussion for me for one day. The absolute stupidity still haunts me.


It also seems kind of selfish that bankers are getting first dibs. Rather than, say, the large number of EU nationals that are propping up the NHS and stu...

Oh wait, this is the Conservatives. It's just another excuse to declare the NHS not fit for purpose and carve it off to the lowest bidder.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:25 am

Vassenor wrote:
Shamhnan Insir wrote:Why am I not surprised.
But that's enough Brexit discussion for me for one day. The absolute stupidity still haunts me.


It also seems kind of selfish that bankers are getting first dibs. Rather than, say, the large number of EU nationals that are propping up the NHS and stu...

Oh wait, this is the Conservatives. It's just another excuse to declare the NHS not fit for purpose and carve it off to the lowest bidder.


The NHS needs access to European markets rather less than the banking sector, unless you plan on selling it's healthcare across Europe?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:31 am


Looks like hating on bankers is about to get popular again.

Holy fucking fuck, just get a moment of self-fucking awareness for five fucking minutes, you twat.
He said: “It is a British event and nothing to do with the EU - this is a pathetic attempt by the desperate 'Remoaners' to hijack a celebration of Britain.

“I will be handing out union flags personally. I don't know what they are trying to prove - we won! Brexit happened and nothing the IN side will do will change that.”

A message on the “Save Our Proms” campaign website, launched last night, said: “The Last Night of the Proms has been a bastion of British culture and identity for decades.

“Seeing activists try and hijack it to campaign for the EU reeks of desperation. They need to accept the result and move on."

They think it's a conspiracy.
They made a "save our proms" fucking campaign website.
It comes days after anti-Brexit campaigners launched their own campaign to hand out European flags at the Last Night, aimed at showing “solidarity with the EU” and using the event’s high profile to “send a message to the world”.

The movement was yesterday backed by the Musicians’ Union, which represents more than 90 per cent of members of the BBC Symphony Orchestra playing on the night.

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The musicians were in favour of it - I don't know why Brexiteers were so pissing afraid of a handful of plastic fucking flags or what would happen if they waved it, like Junkers might pull a Putin and invade Britain to protect "ethnic Europeans trapped by Brexit" or something.


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Mr Banks told The Daily Telegraph he wanted Prommers to instead “wave the union flag with pride and throw away the star spangled banner of oppression by casting aside the illegitimate EU flag.”

He thinks he's George motherfucking Washington.

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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:12 am


To be fair, regardless of its inherent fairness it is good sign (at least second bit), it demonstrates government's commitment atleast somewhat to keeping interest of city in safe during negotiations.
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Postby Eredion » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:51 am

To comically quote one of the biggest European experts.
"That´s why they are not in the EU, because they are running past life! This band of nutcases!"
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:14 pm

Have you noticed that noone cares about pro-Brexit rallies but as soon as anyone catches wind of pro-remain stuff they try and do whatever they can to squish it?


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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:54 pm

I'm not aware of there even being any leave protests. A few people go along to the oppose the "I'm wet over EU" Protests but that's about it.
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Postby UED » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:08 pm

So when are the Brits actually going to leave the EU?
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:09 pm

UED wrote:So when are the Brits actually going to leave the EU?


At this point I don't think anyone actually knows.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:36 pm



No it's not a shock that the Guardian is pretending they pledged that figure.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:44 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:


No it's not a shock that the Guardian is pretending they pledged that figure.

How do you justify the figure and its coverage and its presentation, Nihil?

If I had backed leaving, and been in the campaign team for Leave, then on day one someone said that figure, I'd have had them beaten in a burlap sack and the same threatened for the next person.
It had no business being in the campaign, ever.
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