Should the possession of marijuana be legal?

[Organized States]

Did I say it didn't occur? No. So don't put words into my mouth.

You said you see no problems with regulating it like alcohol. Yes, that's like saying problems with it, do not exist. It's exactly the same thing.

How is it extortion when it benefits society as a whole? How is it extortion when every civilized society in the history of mankind has done it?

All taxes are extortion.

Right. And all "civilized" societies had slavery and no democracy at one point. Just because everyone does something stupid, does not mean it is not stupid.

What elitists? Oh, you mean the myth that people have used for years to justify extremely severe or ridiculous measures?

Politicians, obviously.

What myth to justify severe measures? You are the one that is trying to justify severe and extreme measures.

I am trying to increase freedom and prosperity.

As for severe measures, raise you the "Jewish Conspiracy", which the Nazis used to justify the Holocaust.

And How am I justifying extreme measures? No system is perfect. Taxes are not extortion, especially when they are for the greater good of society.

[Sibirsky]

Do you have an actual argument, or just flamebait?

You seem to be implying you think there should be no taxes at all. That's kind of hard to argue with, due to the unfathomable level of absurdity.

Taxes are a crime, yes.

Your claims are absurd.

[Organized States]

You seem to be implying you think there should be no taxes at all. That's kind of hard to argue with, due to the unfathomable level of absurdity.

Taxes are a crime, yes.

Your claims are absurd.

How are they a crime when they benefit all of us?

I sure hope you are joking.

[Sibirsky]

You said you see no problems with regulating it like alcohol. Yes, that's like saying problems with it, do not exist. It's exactly the same thing.

All taxes are extortion.

Right. And all "civilized" societies had slavery and no democracy at one point. Just because everyone does something stupid, does not mean it is not stupid.

Politicians, obviously.

What myth to justify severe measures? You are the one that is trying to justify severe and extreme measures.

I am trying to increase freedom and prosperity.

As for severe measures, raise you the "Jewish Conspiracy", which the Nazis used to justify the Holocaust.

And How am I justifying extreme measures? No system is perfect. Taxes are not extortion, especially when they are for the greater good of society.

What the fuck does favoring untaxed, legal marijuana have to do with the holocaust? Are you high?

Extortion (also called shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection.

That is exactly the same, as taxation.

Your argument for taxes is pathetically weak. Would extortion stop being extortion if the crime group donated the money to charity? It would be for "the greater good of society," after all.

[Lindenholt]

If you arrest people with a joint in their pocket you should arrest people with a can of beer in their fridge and with a pack of cigarettes in their car.

[Sibirsky]

Taxes are a crime, yes.

Your claims are absurd.

How are they a crime when they benefit all of us?

They are funded through extortion.

Benefits are irrelevant. Also bullshit. Leaving people with less income is not a benefit.

I sure hope you are joking.

I don't joke about serious topics.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Oh, good, I was wondering how long it would take for Sibirsky to turn this into an anti-tax rant.

[Sibirsky]

Oh, good, I was wondering how long it would take for Sibirsky to turn this into an anti-tax rant.

I didn't. Another person said the main reason for legalizing marijuana was tax revenue.

Which is just dumb. It's like saying that anything we cannot tax should be banned.

That air you're breathing is illegal. You criminal.

[Organized States]

As for severe measures, raise you the "Jewish Conspiracy", which the Nazis used to justify the Holocaust.

And How am I justifying extreme measures? No system is perfect. Taxes are not extortion, especially when they are for the greater good of society.

What the fuck does favoring untaxed, legal marijuana have to do with the holocaust? Are you high?

Extortion (also called shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection.

That is exactly the same, as taxation.

Your argument for taxes is pathetically weak. Would extortion stop being extortion if the crime group donated the money to charity? It would be for "the greater good of society," after all.

1. I was simply debunking the idea of "Elitists" that you have, which has been used in the past to commit unspeakable acts of violence against humanity.
2. Your argument against taxation is pathetically week.

This conversation is over. I have no use in debating taxation and common sense laws that will go into effect, especially if Pot is legalized.

[Cannot think of a name]

Oh, good, I was wondering how long it would take for Sibirsky to turn this into an anti-tax rant.

I didn't. Another person said the main reason for legalizing marijuana was tax revenue.

Which is just dumb. It's like saying that anything we cannot tax should be banned.

No it's not. That's silly. Don't be silly.

[Sibirsky]

What the fuck does favoring untaxed, legal marijuana have to do with the holocaust? Are you high?

Extortion (also called shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection.

That is exactly the same, as taxation.

Your argument for taxes is pathetically weak. Would extortion stop being extortion if the crime group donated the money to charity? It would be for "the greater good of society," after all.

1. I was simply debunking the idea of "Elitists" that you have, which has been used in the past to commit unspeakable acts of violence against humanity.
2. Your argument against taxation is pathetically week.

This conversation is over. I have no use in debating taxation and common sense laws that will go into effect, especially if Pot is legalized.

1. You haven't debunked anything.

2. Your argument that my argument is weak, is nonexistent. You made a claim, and have not backed it up by anything. I provided the definition of extortion. Which is almost the same as taxation. Taxes are funded through coercion. The end.

Of course it is. You have no valid arguments.

[Sibirsky]

I didn't. Another person said the main reason for legalizing marijuana was tax revenue.

Which is just dumb. It's like saying that anything we cannot tax should be banned.

No it's not. That's silly. Don't be silly.

Being silly is fun.

He did claim that the main (but not only, thankfully) argument for legalizing pot was tax revenue.

[Wisconsin9]

This isn't a thread about taxation, ladies. If you want one, start one.

[Reprieval]

Yup.

This isn't a thread about taxation, ladies. If you want one, start one.

Amen to that.

[Cannot think of a name]

No it's not. That's silly. Don't be silly.

Being silly is fun.

He did claim that the main (but not only, thankfully) argument for legalizing pot was tax revenue.

That wasn't the silly part. Your giant "I'm a hammer, everything's a nail" leap was.

[Sibirsky]

This isn't a thread about taxation, ladies. If you want one, start one.

The statists made it one.

Don't regulate it...

Then, there is no use for it. One of the main reasons people are in favor of legalizing pot, is to tax the living crap out of it. And if we don't regulate it? How long is it before we have some airline pilot doing pot before he does his job? I'd be fully in favor of legalizing it, but it needs to be extremely regulated.

Right. Medical and recreational use is useless.

All we need is taxes.

[Wisconsin9]

This isn't a thread about taxation, ladies. If you want one, start one.

The statists made it one.

It takes two to tango.

[Roski]

I agree with legalization.

If I couldn't get that, I would settle for decrimination.

[Sibirsky]

The statists made it one.

It takes two to tango.

Don't regulate it...

Then, there is no use for it. One of the main reasons people are in favor of legalizing pot, is to tax the living crap out of it. And if we don't regulate it? How long is it before we have some airline pilot doing pot before he does his job? I'd be fully in favor of legalizing it, but it needs to be extremely regulated.

And I addressed this.... comment.

Taxing "the living shit out of it," will only keep it on the black market. It is not hard to find weed anywhere. Including prison.

The morality of taxation was a natural step forward because this person claimed that taxes benefit everyone.

The fact that airlines would probably frown on pilots getting stoned and flying jets worth hundreds of millions of dollars and with hundreds of people onboard was also pointed out.

[Syndicapolis]

Here's what I think: the government should get the hell out of our bodies. And everywhere else. Including existence.

[Crysuko]

Here's what I think: the government should get the hell out of our bodies. And everywhere else. Including existence.

[AGREEMENT INTENSIFIES]

OT: Cannabis in it's various forms should be legalised, taxed and regulated to ensure better purity of the stuff. if it's tended to by professional botanists and such, cases of poisoning will drop like a stone. Harder drugs however...i'm still iffy about.

[Gezi Park]

Yea, just legalize it already.

[Magna Libero]

Yes, of course. It should be legal and untaxed. Bans are impractical. The state shouldn't decide about these things -- personally I'd go as far as abolish the state. I don't have anything else to add to the discussion at this actual moment.

[Ashmoria]

As the title states, should possession of marijuana be legal?

Imo, yes, because it's none of the government's business as to what I put into my own body. It's also less harmful than alcohol, and it's not possible to become physically addicted to marijuana (which is what everyone is worried about when people use drugs).

What do you think, and why?

of course it should. almost all of the downsides to marijuana are brought about by it being illegal.

[Skeckoa]

Lord have mercy. Yes already. Please! I want these stoners to just shut up already.