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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:25 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:A shame that the extreme majority of Easterners have done nothing wrong.

Well to kill one criminal you have to kill two innocents.

what kind of fucking logic is that
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Postby Republiqum » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:25 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:A shame that the extreme majority of Easterners have done nothing wrong.

Well to kill one criminal you have to kill two innocents.

Wouldn't that make you a killer?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:25 pm

Haktiva wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Yes, because going back to Kobane and rebuild right now is entirely safe, and a half-hearted invasion with a Vietnam/Iraq outcome is going to work.

it will most likely never be safe, honestly. if they're gonna stay in their host country, they'd best adapt then and assimilate.

Shall I adopt a Swedish name then and abandon my educated Godlessness/Agnosticism?
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:26 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Pretty sure some people these days consider "living while Muslim" to be a capital crime.

welp im fucked then

convert to christianity
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:26 pm

Republiqum wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:Well to kill one criminal you have to kill two innocents.

Wouldn't that make you a killer?

no just even-ing out my kdr /notserious
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:26 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:welp im fucked then

convert to christianity


Religious conversion at the point of a sword is not effective.

Ironically this sort of forced conversion is exactly what the far right commentators claim Islam does when the scripture doesn't support it.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:27 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:welp im fucked then

convert to christianity

That makes you no better than Al-Baghadi. Short to say these shite jokes are the antithesis of funny.
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Postby Belivonia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:27 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:welp im fucked then

convert to christianity


Come to London, you will turn Muslim almost instantly by looking at the people on the street's.
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Postby Haktiva » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:27 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Haktiva wrote:it will most likely never be safe, honestly. if they're gonna stay in their host country, they'd best adapt then and assimilate.

Shall I adopt a Swedish name then?

that's your choice :p

mostly I mean don't expect the country to change for you. if you go to someone else's home, you abide by their rules. it's simply good manners.
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:28 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:convert to christianity


Religious conversion at the point of a sword is not effective.

Deus Vult

Belivonia wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:convert to christianity


Come to London, you will turn Muslim almost instantly by looking at the people on the street's.

I live in a Scottish Port town, we have it pretty bad as well.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:convert to christianity

That makes you no better than Al-Baghadi.


No it just makes me a missionary.
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The Wolven League
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:28 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:welp im fucked then

convert to christianity

Yeah because I'm just going to suddenly convert to a belief system I don't believe in.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:29 pm

Haktiva wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Shall I adopt a Swedish name then?

that's your choice :p

mostly I mean don't expect the country to change for you. if you go to someone else's home, you abide by their rules. it's simply good manners.

You said assimilate. Shall I then take a Swedish name and abandon my educated Godlessness/Agnosticism and profess to a non-existent state church with a petty, jealous and genocidal God?
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Postby Haktiva » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:29 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:welp im fucked then

convert to christianity

which one? the Roman Catholic church or any of the others which are considered heretics, worse than anyone who isn't Christian by definition?
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:29 pm

Haktiva wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Shall I adopt a Swedish name then?

that's your choice :p

mostly I mean don't expect the country to change for you. if you go to someone else's home, you abide by their rules. it's simply good manners.


And in the real world, that's what happens. Refugees and migrants assimilate and adapt. It's just the hardcore nationalists claiming that they're demanding the institution of national Sharia law and stuff like that.
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:29 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:convert to christianity

Yeah because I'm just going to suddenly convert to a belief system I don't believe in.

if you believe in Islam it should be easy to show you why Christianity is the right way.
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I am a Fascist and Monarchist, and believe the Jacobite Revolution was good. I'm also a Scottish Nationalist, and want independence under a fascist regime for my nation. SAOR ALBA!

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Postby Belivonia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:29 pm

Haktiva wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Shall I adopt a Swedish name then?

that's your choice :p

mostly I mean don't expect the country to change for you. if you go to someone else's home, you abide by their rules. it's simply good manners.


That isn't happening, they come to our countries, they don't respect our rules, and they don't give us manners. It's like replacing a house full of a family that has lived there for more than 20 years, respected the place, furnished the place, then suddenly they are forced to accept a family twice bigger than them, reproducing twice faster than them, and they wreck the place, ruining the furniture and replacing it with something else from their own country, see the picture?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:29 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Yeah because I'm just going to suddenly convert to a belief system I don't believe in.

if you believe in Islam it should be easy to show you why Christianity is the right way.

Yes because the mad ramblings of bronze age virgins are any better than the mad ramblings of iron age virgins.
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Postby Belivonia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:30 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Haktiva wrote:that's your choice :p

mostly I mean don't expect the country to change for you. if you go to someone else's home, you abide by their rules. it's simply good manners.

You said assimilate. Shall I then take a Swedish name and abandon my educated Godlessness/Agnosticism and profess to a non-existent state church with a petty, jealous and genocidal God?



Genocidal God?
Genocide seems to be happening everywhere, especially to the Europeans.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:30 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:Christianity is the right way.


Speaking as someone who was raised in the Christian tradition:

[citation needed]
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:30 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Religious conversion at the point of a sword is not effective.

Deus Vult

Belivonia wrote:
Come to London, you will turn Muslim almost instantly by looking at the people on the street's.

I live in a Scottish Port town, we have it pretty bad as well.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:That makes you no better than Al-Baghadi.


No it just makes me a missionary.

The Crusaders were fucking worthless at "converting" people. They just killed them.

And you are basically saying convert or die, which is what Baghdadi is doing.
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:31 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Yeah because I'm just going to suddenly convert to a belief system I don't believe in.

if you believe in Islam it should be easy to show you why Christianity is the right way.

Yeah no. I was raised Christian and I left because I didn't believe in it. And still don't.
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Postby Belivonia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:32 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:if you believe in Islam it should be easy to show you why Christianity is the right way.

Yeah no. I was raised Christian and I left because I didn't believe in it. And still don't.


Christianity, it's better than Sharia, trust me
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:33 pm

Belivonia wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Yeah no. I was raised Christian and I left because I didn't believe in it. And still don't.


Christianity, it's better than Sharia, trust me


So a religion that requires that people be put to death for wearing mixed fibres or planting different crops side by side is better than Sharia. Got it.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:33 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Religious conversion at the point of a sword is not effective.

Deus Vult

Of course one of the most traumatic periods in European and Middle East history, so much so that Crusade is still a curse in radical Islamic discourse is something to admire.
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Postby Belivonia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:33 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Belivonia wrote:
Christianity, it's better than Sharia, trust me


How so?


You are asking me why Christianity is better than Sharia? Seriously?
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