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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:53 pm

Haktiva wrote:I love it when the liberals and nationalists squabble over these things. :lol2:

then again, does Germany even have nationalists anymore?

PEGIDA and such, IIRC.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:54 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Haktiva wrote:I love it when the liberals and nationalists squabble over these things. :lol2:

then again, does Germany even have nationalists anymore?

Because we need someone to fight against the immigrant invasion. And Germany is well, fucked. It's run by neo-socialists who are scared to say anything in case it's not halal.


What is so bad about free movement of people anyway?
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:55 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Haktiva wrote:I love it when the liberals and nationalists squabble over these things. :lol2:

then again, does Germany even have nationalists anymore?

PEGIDA and such, IIRC.

PEGIDA are heroes and we need more people to join them.
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:55 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Haktiva wrote:I love it when the liberals and nationalists squabble over these things. :lol2:

then again, does Germany even have nationalists anymore?

Because we need someone to fight against the immigrant invasion. And Germany is well, fucked. It's run by neo-socialists who are scared to say anything in case it's not halal.

Or maybe they respect that there are people different than them that aren't inferior?
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:56 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:PEGIDA and such, IIRC.

PEGIDA are heroes and we need more people to join them.

We can never be friends.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:57 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:PEGIDA and such, IIRC.

PEGIDA are heroes and we need more people to join them.

PEGIDA are at best deluded for thinking they're relevant.
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:00 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:PEGIDA are heroes and we need more people to join them.

PEGIDA are at best deluded for thinking they're relevant.

well they kind of are relevant when they have 16,000 facebook likes.
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Postby Haktiva » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:00 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:Because we need someone to fight against the immigrant invasion. And Germany is well, fucked. It's run by neo-socialists who are scared to say anything in case it's not halal.


What is so bad about free movement of people anyway?

they way I see it, would you appreciate it if all manner of people could just come through or stay in your house and you had no right to stop it? no you'd be pretty pissed, particularly if a few of them end up causing trouble. now just adjust that to a national level and you might have an idea.

how do we actually help those people? good question, but proper vetting would help keep the troublemakers under control. but then again, that doesn't quite tow the party line.
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:00 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:Because we need someone to fight against the immigrant invasion. And Germany is well, fucked. It's run by neo-socialists who are scared to say anything in case it's not halal.


What is so bad about free movement of people anyway?

they have their own countries
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:00 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:PEGIDA are at best deluded for thinking they're relevant.

well they kind of are relevant when they have 16,000 facebook likes.


>implying that Facebook likes are anything other than fake internet points
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:01 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What is so bad about free movement of people anyway?

they have their own countries

Which are filled with war and violent extremists...
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:01 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:they have their own countries

Which are filled with war and violent extremists...?

not our fault
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:02 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:PEGIDA are at best deluded for thinking they're relevant.

well they kind of are relevant when they have 16,000 facebook likes.

Are you implying that a mere 16,000 Facebook likes makes a group/person relevant?
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Postby Republiqum » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:02 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:PEGIDA are at best deluded for thinking they're relevant.

well they kind of are relevant when they have 16,000 facebook likes.

No. nononononnonononononono.
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:02 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:well they kind of are relevant when they have 16,000 facebook likes.

Are you implying that a mere 16,000 Facebook likes makes a group/person relevant?

well I doubt you even have 16 so.
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:02 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Which are filled with war and violent extremists...?

not our fault

wut. So, they should stay in their country and die?
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:03 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:not our fault

wut. So, they should stay in their country and die?

or go to another country with a similar culture
like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:03 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Are you implying that a mere 16,000 Facebook likes makes a group/person relevant?

well I doubt you even have 16 so.

I don't even have one nor care for social media. And internet likes mean jack shit.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:03 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:wut. So, they should stay in their country and die?

or go to another country with a similar culture
like Iran or Saudi Arabia.


Fun fact: The Middle East is not some culturally homogeneous blob.
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Postby Haktiva » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:03 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What is so bad about free movement of people anyway?

they have their own countries

you mean the ones constantly destabilized by foreign influence and religious/ethnic/regional conflicts? the ones where you could very well end up killed for expressing an opposing view?

to a point, I can agree that they should look after the interests of their country, but I also sympathize with the young Syrians(who are apparently the minority) who don't want to pick up a weapon and kill people for a society that could really give two shits about them. why stick around for the suck when you can try and build a new life for yourself elsewhere? at least before the economic migrants fuck everything up.
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:04 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:wut. So, they should stay in their country and die?

or go to another country with a similar culture
like Iran or Saudi Arabia.

Which are both almost as violent as their home country, just it is the government that is applying the violence.
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Postby Mortuus Luciferus » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:04 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:or go to another country with a similar culture
like Iran or Saudi Arabia.


Fun fact: The Middle East is not some culturally homogeneous blob.

Iran has culture for one form of Islam
Saudi has it for the other
and they both have decent standards of living. so why cant they go there?????
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:06 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Fun fact: The Middle East is not some culturally homogeneous blob.

Iran has culture for one form of Islam
Saudi has it for the other
and they both have decent standards of living. so why cant they go there?????

"Decent standards of living"

Yeah, because almost daily beheadings, crucifixions, and discrimination that is advocated by the government is "decent living".
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Postby Haktiva » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:09 pm

Mortuus Luciferus wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Fun fact: The Middle East is not some culturally homogeneous blob.

Iran has culture for one form of Islam
Saudi has it for the other
and they both have decent standards of living. so why cant they go there?????

Iran is Persian, most of the migrants are Arab so there's that tension, not to mention the schism between Sunni and Shia(can't remember which Iran is).

Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states won't take any of them in because "officially' they're afraid of terrorists sneaking in, the ones they often fund and support, ironically.
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Postby The Wolven League » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:12 pm

Haktiva wrote:
Mortuus Luciferus wrote:Iran has culture for one form of Islam
Saudi has it for the other
and they both have decent standards of living. so why cant they go there?????

Iran is Persian, most of the migrants are Arab so there's that tension, not to mention the schism between Sunni and Shia(can't remember which Iran is).

Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states won't take any of them in because "officially' they're afraid of terrorists sneaking in, the ones they often fund and support, ironically.

Iran is a Shi'ite theocracy. Saudi Arabia is a Sunni.

Both are on the conservative side to the point of it being radical.
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