Why monarchy?

[Vazdaria]

As an American, I believe in a constitutional republic here in the USA. It is what our nation was founded as. However, I believe that in place in Europe, such as the former Austria-Hungary, Serbia, Greece, ect, deserve to have their traditional and cultural governments restored. However, I believe that the monarch needs a bit more power than Britain's useless Queen (no offence; nice woman, she just is unable to do anything). I personally believe in an executive monarchy, with checks and balances, much like Lichtenstein.

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[Benuty]

As an American, I believe in a constitutional republic here in the USA. It is what our nation was founded as. However, I believe that in place in Europe, such as the former Austria-Hungary, Serbia, Greece, ect, deserve to have their traditional and cultural governments restored. However, I believe that the monarch needs a bit more power than Britain's useless Queen (no offence; nice woman, she just is unable to do anything). I personally believe in an executive monarchy, with checks and balances, much like Lichtenstein.

AHA! Another person who supports Constituional Executive Monarchy! HUZZAH!

Ugh...why anyone would support an outdated system is beyond me.

[Vazdaria]

AHA! Another person who supports Constituional Executive Monarchy! HUZZAH!

Ugh...why anyone would support an outdated system is beyond me.

Just because something is old, doesn't mean its bad...take Torah for instance.

[State of the Teutonic Order]

Ugh...why anyone would support an outdated system is beyond me.

Just because something is old, doesn't mean its bad...take Torah for instance.

Agreed

[Benuty]

Ugh...why anyone would support an outdated system is beyond me.

Just because something is old, doesn't mean its bad...take Torah for instance.

Outdated doesn't mean the same thing as Old, it means unnecessary.

[Salus Maior]

As an American, I believe in a constitutional republic here in the USA. It is what our nation was founded as. However, I believe that in place in Europe, such as the former Austria-Hungary, Serbia, Greece, ect, deserve to have their traditional and cultural governments restored. However, I believe that the monarch needs a bit more power than Britain's useless Queen (no offence; nice woman, she just is unable to do anything). I personally believe in an executive monarchy, with checks and balances, much like Lichtenstein.

AHA! Another person who supports Constituional Executive Monarchy! HUZZAH!

Idk about you, but I wouldn't want to be stuck with only one leader for a lifetime. Particularly if he were awful.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Ugh...why anyone would support an outdated system is beyond me.

Just because something is old, doesn't mean its bad...take Torah for instance.

At the same time, just because something is old doesn't mean it's good. Most times "hurr durr truhdishun" is negative.

[Forsher]

AHA! Another person who supports Constituional Executive Monarchy! HUZZAH!

Ugh...why anyone would support an outdated system is beyond me.

Now you force yourself into explaining how and why a relatively recent system of government is outdated. Which you can't really do as constitutional monarchies are neither anti-democratic nor inherently biased towards not keeping the public's rights in mind. In such a sense, they're every bit as modern as the older idea of republics. Some would say that they're anti-egalitarian but it balances (and why does HoS even matter anyway?)

Just because something is old, doesn't mean its bad...take Torah for instance.

At the same time, just because something is old doesn't mean it's good. Most times "hurr durr truhdishun" is negative.

Depends on the tradition. Which, in fact, should be everyone's answer to the question, "Why monarchy?" (Obv. substitute tradition for monarchy.) Or, for that matter, "Why republic?" Traditions are typically like mutations, frequently harmless.

[Murkwood]

You read MM's blog, too? Hurrah! A fellow believer!

What contemporary monarchist DOESNT read Mad monarchists blog? He Is bloody brilliant!

Sometime he's a little wacky. For example, he supports the Empire of Japan during WWII. Manchukuo was a horrible place, and he should realize it.

Still, he's very good.

[Immoren]

What contemporary monarchist DOESNT read Mad monarchists blog? He Is bloody brilliant!

Sometime he's a little wacky. For example, he supports the Empire of Japan during WWII. Manchukuo was a horrible place, and he should realize it.

Still, he's very good.

Well he seems to have "Mad" in his title-

[The Wolven League]

This thread has gotten very..off track..

[Murkwood]

Sometime he's a little wacky. For example, he supports the Empire of Japan during WWII. Manchukuo was a horrible place, and he should realize it.

Still, he's very good.

Well he seems to have "Mad" in his title-

Sadly, he does get a little "Mad" sometimes.

Also, he's an apologist for Swaziland. He's not calling for pro-Monarchy reform there, however. He supports them.

Still, he's a very good read.

[Agritum]

As a Monarchist, what are my other options?

You're a monarchist? Did you take Agritum's suggestion and read Moldbug?

Nah, he read Mad Monarchist, the much less racist but equally wacky version of Moldie.

[Vazdaria]

Just because something is old, doesn't mean its bad...take Torah for instance.

Outdated doesn't mean the same thing as Old, it means unnecessary.

Democracy and The Republic are unnecessary!

[Belique]

I've been a lurker on this forum for a while and somehow I've managed to resit the urge to register and post. I've noticed there's a large number of monarchists (along with people with other eccentric political opinions).

When one looks-up 'benefits of monarchy' on Google one will be surprised at how many websites seem to have articles dedicated to this relatively-obscure subject. They all tell us the same thing; monarchies unite the people with the personification of the nation (the monarch) which is independent of politics and may cost less than ceremonial presidencies while serving as permanent (or long-term) ambassadors of the country and its people. Generally, I tend to sympathise with monarchies just because of possibly-anachronistic sentimentalism (and not because of the reasons presented above) but I'd like to know what the monarchist members and denizens of NSG have to say on why they support the aforementioned system of government.

I know there is no thread ownership in the NSG but I wouldn't like this thread to simply criticize or praise monarchies blindly; I want to know why NSG's monarchist are in fact monarchists. The arguments for a republic are quite repetitive and obvious so unless you've got an argument for a republic which you think will be unknown to the majority I'd recommend you don't post.

I know that monarchy is a bit of a taboo in government today, however there are many benefits.

Centralized government
smaller bureaucracy
united non-partisan consistent government
educated rulers
figurehead
can be great rulers if limits like a constitution and natural rights are installed
already controls all the money in a country, less likely to take bribes and breed corruption
better liason between ministries
has an outsider's point of view

there are many more benefits, however, I dont have the time to write them down.

[Belique]

As an American, I believe in a constitutional republic here in the USA. It is what our nation was founded as. However, I believe that in place in Europe, such as the former Austria-Hungary, Serbia, Greece, ect, deserve to have their traditional and cultural governments restored. However, I believe that the monarch needs a bit more power than Britain's useless Queen (no offence; nice woman, she just is unable to do anything). I personally believe in an executive monarchy, with checks and balances, much like Lichtenstein.

AHA! Another person who supports Constituional Executive Monarchy! HUZZAH!

me too!

[Belique]

Liechtenstein is a fantastic example of a good government. You have a strong King (or Grand Duke), a strong Legislature, and a strong constitution. Go executive constitutional monarchy.

[CTALNH]

I've been a lurker on this forum for a while and somehow I've managed to resit the urge to register and post. I've noticed there's a large number of monarchists (along with people with other eccentric political opinions).

When one looks-up 'benefits of monarchy' on Google one will be surprised at how many websites seem to have articles dedicated to this relatively-obscure subject. They all tell us the same thing; monarchies unite the people with the personification of the nation (the monarch) which is independent of politics and may cost less than ceremonial presidencies while serving as permanent (or long-term) ambassadors of the country and its people. Generally, I tend to sympathise with monarchies just because of possibly-anachronistic sentimentalism (and not because of the reasons presented above) but I'd like to know what the monarchist members and denizens of NSG have to say on why they support the aforementioned system of government.

I know there is no thread ownership in the NSG but I wouldn't like this thread to simply criticize or praise monarchies blindly; I want to know why NSG's monarchist are in fact monarchists. The arguments for a republic are quite repetitive and obvious so unless you've got an argument for a republic which you think will be unknown to the majority I'd recommend you don't post.

I know that monarchy is a bit of a taboo in government today, however there are many benefits.

1 Centralized government
2 smaller bureaucracy
3 united non-partisan consistent government
4 educated rulers
5 figurehead
6 can be great rulers if limits like a constitution and natural rights are installed
7 already controls all the money in a country, less likely to take bribes and breed corruption
8 better liason between ministries
9 has an outsider's point of view

there are many more benefits, however, I dont have the time to write them down.

1 Sure probably
2 Yeah in the fantasy land your dreaming
3 Thats not a good thing
4 Like education makes a always a perfect ruler right? No not really.
5 So what? Anybody can be a figurehead!
6 Nope they can't in this day and age
7 Pffft Greatest joke ever heard.
8 ? Any government of any type has good liaison between ministers
9 WTF you are king the head of state and probably the government your epitome of the non neutral party is not supposed to be.

[Autonomous Titoists]

Because tradition, unity, prestige and inumerous other fluid concepts.

That's adorable well if we are supported tradition and prestige let's go slavery! Monarchs are egotistical liars that thrive off using the stolen wealth(taxes) from the hard workers they are oppressing. They don't act as ambassadors, throughout history they have been the leading cause of war. They just get to live lavishly screw whoever they want and eat until they die.

[Autonomous Titoists]

AHA! Another person who supports Constituional Executive Monarchy! HUZZAH!

Idk about you, but I wouldn't want to be stuck with only one leader for a lifetime. Particularly if he were awful.

Well in America you're stuck with a bunch of useless leaders throughout your lifetime so I don't see the difference. And no monarchs should have no power they should not exist. I'm glad the queen can't do anything. I hope the Greek anarchists overthrow the imperialist puppet the U.S and NATO control and we finally get a real safe haven. That probably won't happen though

[Vazdaria]

AHA! Another person who supports Constituional Executive Monarchy! HUZZAH!

me too!

[Benuty]

Outdated doesn't mean the same thing as Old, it means unnecessary.

Democracy and The Republic are unnecessary!

By Platonic standards yes.

Today's standards however no.

[Kelinfort]

I hate monarchism. Nobility is the enemy of progress, and monarchy, in that the monarch possesses power, is an unnecessary and useless political model for a major power in contemporary society

[Vazdaria]

I hate monarchism. Nobility is the enemy of progress, and monarchy, in that the monarch possesses power, is an unnecessary and useless political model for a major power in contemporary society

Nobility is by no means an "enemy of progress." What better way to be recognized than to have one of your vassels come up with the next great thing???

[Kelinfort]

I hate monarchism. Nobility is the enemy of progress, and monarchy, in that the monarch possesses power, is an unnecessary and useless political model for a major power in contemporary society

Nobility is by no means an "enemy of progress." What better way to be recognized than to have one of your vassels come up with the next great thing???

What better way to retain a social order than to subjugate an uneducated workforce bound to the land?