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Are you a monarchist?

Yes, constitutional monarchist
80
33%
Yes, absolute monarchist
19
8%
Yes, feudal monarchist
10
4%
Yes, other type of monarchist (please specify in a post)
8
3%
No (feel free to post anyway)
128
52%
 
Total votes : 245

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Postby Devvo Mate » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:29 am

There is literally zero good argument for a monarchy in this day and age, I want our royal family out.

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Postby Distruzio » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:29 am

Devvo Mate wrote:There is literally zero good argument for a monarchy in this day and age, I want our royal family out.


Why change what works?
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Postby Memell » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:31 am

Distruzio wrote:
The imperial canadian dutchy wrote:I am a staunch monarchist, Fascistic monarchist, I support the Dictatorship combined with a Monarchy, as a Monarch is the symbol of a nation. I do wish for /certain/ monarchies to be restored, but not in any place silly like America per se


How do you reconcile the anti-traditionalism inherent in the revolutionary dialectic of fascism?


I wouldn´t see any problem with that, as the "revolutionary" aspects of Fascism live only in its rhetoric and, as you said, dialectic.
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Postby Devvo Mate » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:32 am

Distruzio wrote:Why change what works?


Because fuck off are some rich cunts who've done nothing to earn their position better than me. One fifth of children in this country are living in poverty and the fucking Windsors have multiple castles and jet round the world on taxpayer money. They're leeches and can fuck off.

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Postby Vazdaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:33 am

Sanctissima wrote:I may be completely mistaken, but I think there's a sizable portion of forumers here who are monarchists, that is to say, people who like kings, queens, emperors, empresses and various other regal individuals as heads of state. Personally, I'm not one, but I've always been interested in the subject. Out of all the political ideologies in the world, I find this one to be the most, well, quirky, but in an interesting sort of way. I mean, it's a rather archaic ideology nowadays, but it still seems to attract a fairly sizable amount of adherents.

As I said, there might be none of you out there whatsoever, and this will simply turn into a dead topic, but please, if you do happen to be a monarchist, post a reply. I'm truly interested in your ideology and what makes you think that a monarch is best suited for being a head of state.

I am a Constitutional Executive Monarchist! :D I believe in a Monarch who acts as both Head of Government and Head of State and is limited by a Constitution.

I laugh at Ceremonial Constitutional Monarchies and hardly consider them Monarchies but prefer them over baseless Democracies, Republics, and other systems which perpetuate the lie of 'equality of mankind'.


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Postby Distruzio » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:33 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Why change what works?


Because fuck off are some rich cunts who've done nothing to earn their position better than me. One fifth of children in this country are living in poverty and the fucking Windsors have multiple castles and jet round the world on taxpayer money. They're leeches and can fuck off.


... fair enough. But they're station works to keep the nation stable. Why throw that away?
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Postby Vazdaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:33 am

Distruzio wrote:
Devvo Mate wrote:There is literally zero good argument for a monarchy in this day and age, I want our royal family out.


Why change what works?

Because the royal family is way to limited.
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Postby Vazdaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:34 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Why change what works?


Because fuck off are some rich cunts who've done nothing to earn their position better than me. One fifth of children in this country are living in poverty and the fucking Windsors have multiple castles and jet round the world on taxpayer money. They're leeches and can fuck off.

What if they are inherently better though?
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Postby Devvo Mate » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:34 am

Vazdaria wrote:What if they are inherently better though?


They are objectively not.

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Postby Vazdaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:35 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Vazdaria wrote:What if they are inherently better though?


They are objectively not.

Objectively they have differences and are different than you. If the sum of these differences is greater than the the sum of yours, then they are inherently better.
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Postby Devvo Mate » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:37 am

Vazdaria wrote:Objectively they have differences and are different than you. If the sum of these differences is greater than the the sum of yours, then they are inherently better.


That doesn't even make sense. Prince Andrew is a paedo, he is objectively worse than me. Prince Charles is a bumbling, scientifically illiterate insecure nutcase, he is objectively worse than me. Prince Harry (William?) scraped though on A-levels at Eton fucking College, where it's pretty much impossible not to do well, and even then some of his coursework was done for him. They only are where they are because of who they were born to, and have done shit all to merit their position.

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Postby Vazdaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:38 am

Conscentia wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Why change what works?

Perhaps some else works better?

Monarchies have withstood the test of time.
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:38 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Why change what works?

Because fuck off are some rich cunts who've done nothing to earn their position better than me. One fifth of children in this country are living in poverty and the fucking Windsors have multiple castles and jet round the world on taxpayer money. They're leeches and can fuck off.

They voluntary give much of the revenue from their lands and assets to Parliament, lowering the average person's taxes about approximately 62p each, IIRC.

Of-coarse, maybe we'd get more money if we reclaimed those lands by eminent domain, and built finance districts and supermarkets on them. :p
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Postby Distruzio » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:38 am

Conscentia wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Why change what works?

Perhaps some else works better?


Has history shewn that political innovations without consideration for cultural realities result in anything other than tragedy?
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Postby Vazdaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:39 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Vazdaria wrote:Objectively they have differences and are different than you. If the sum of these differences is greater than the the sum of yours, then they are inherently better.


That doesn't even make sense. Prince Andrew is a paedo, he is objectively worse than me. Prince Charles is a bumbling, scientifically illiterate insecure nutcase, he is objectively worse than me. Prince Harry (William?) scraped though on A-levels at Eton fucking College, where it's pretty much impossible not to do well, and even then some of his coursework was done for him. They only are where they are because of who they were born to, and have done shit all to merit their position.

Merit is irrelevant when determining objective "betternness"
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Postby Memell » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:39 am

Devvo Mate wrote:
Vazdaria wrote:What if they are inherently better though?


They are objectively not.


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Lolwut.
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Benuty wrote:Of-course we all know the South Koreans have the balls in that little cluster fest of a peninsula.

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Postby Vazdaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:40 am

Conscentia wrote:
Vazdaria wrote:Monarchies have withstood the test of time.

So has the Swiss confederacy.

#Confederal_Monarchy
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Postby Distruzio » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:40 am

Conscentia wrote:
Vazdaria wrote:Monarchies have withstood the test of time.

So has the Swiss confederacy.


Would a similar political structure work for Britain?
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Postby Vazdaria » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:41 am

Conscentia wrote:
Vazdaria wrote:#Confederal_Monarchy

The federal council is not a monarchy.

i was joking.
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Postby Distruzio » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:42 am

Conscentia wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Would a similar political structure work for Britain?

Why wouldn't it?


... cultural and political realities?
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