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Regardless of Who You Support, Who Will Win The Electoral College on Tuesday and By What Margin?

Clinton >150
12
3%
Clinton 110-150
22
6%
Clinton 70-110
55
15%
Clinton 30 - 70
103
29%
Clinton 30 <
54
15%
Trump 30 <
74
21%
Trump 30 - 70
11
3%
Trump 70 -110
5
1%
Trump 110 - 150
3
1%
Trump >150
17
5%
 
Total votes : 356

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:33 am

Vladivostokava wrote:Hillary is a traitor to the US people. She has got many good soldiers killed and many more will follow if she take power. She needs to be in jail. No questions.

That's a shame. I have many.
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Postby Tobiasia » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:33 am

Vladivostokava wrote:
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I'm absolutely disgusted with the media's refusal to call Donald on his shit. I'm disgusted they treat emails as worse than sexual assault. Democracy only works if the electorate has good information and they're not keeping up their end of the deal.

sexual assault is horrible, absolutly horrible and he should be barred. I agree. But the emails could possibly put many peoples lives at risk. The lives of US soldiers and gov agents are far more important than some idiots locker-room mouth.


"The emails could possibly put many peoples lives at risk" so i see what you mean, there could be confidential material that we dont want terrorists to know in these emails. So maybe THEY ARE CONFIDENTIAL FOR A REASON BECAUSE WE DONT WANT ANY OLD LARRY TO KNOW ABOUT TOP SECRET US PLANS.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:34 am

Vladivostokava wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
I'm absolutely disgusted with the media's refusal to call Donald on his shit. I'm disgusted they treat emails as worse than sexual assault. Democracy only works if the electorate has good information and they're not keeping up their end of the deal.

sexual assault is horrible, absolutly horrible and he should be barred. I agree. But the emails could possibly put many peoples lives at risk. The lives of US soldiers and gov agents are far more important than some idiots locker-room mouth.

apparently not or that stuff would be out there now. the emails have been reviewed and there was nothing dangerous in them.
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:34 am

I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

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Postby Novus America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:35 am

Galloism wrote:
Vladivostokava wrote:Hillary is a traitor to the US people. She has got many good soldiers killed and many more will follow if she take power. She needs to be in jail. No questions.

If you have evidence of that you should present it. Congress would probably open a 9th Benghazi investigation if it's good. Or not good.

Or for pretty much any reason really.


Benghazi was not treason. Just incompetence. Same with the email thing.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:35 am

Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

Kanye West 2020.

You know you want to see it happen.

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Postby Khadgar » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:36 am

Novus America wrote:
Galloism wrote:If you have evidence of that you should present it. Congress would probably open a 9th Benghazi investigation if it's good. Or not good.

Or for pretty much any reason really.


Benghazi was not treason. Just incompetence. Same with the email thing.


Oddly enough the Benghazi investigations focused on Clinton when the incompetence was Congress' refusal to fund better security. Can't imagine why.

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:36 am

Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

pffft

hes too old
whatever

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:36 am

Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!


Let's not forget Mark Cuban too :p
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:37 am

Khadgar wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Benghazi was not treason. Just incompetence. Same with the email thing.


Oddly enough the Benghazi investigations focused on Clinton when the incompetence was Congress' refusal to fund better security. Can't imagine why.

my sister showed me a video the other day of chaffetz on cnn bragging about not funding extra Libyan security. I bet he never bragged about it a second time.
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Postby Tobiasia » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:37 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

Kanye West 2020.

You know you want to see it happen.

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Postby Khadgar » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:38 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

pffft

hes too old


Jared Fogel perhaps?

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Postby Novus America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:38 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Umm literally hundreds of laws have been passed under Obama. They have worked with the other side. I agree they should hold a hearing on the supreme court nominee and a up or down vote, but you are moving the goal posts. That has not be the cause of our sluggish economy.

no the lack of stimulus and investment in infrastructure has held back the economy

it has recovered anyway but the republicans caused pain for millions of families because they wanted to make Obama a one term president.


Did Obama even submit a stimulus bill? And who is going to pay for it? And they have every right to disagree, stimulus is just a temporary thing and not some silver bullet. They have no duty to pass a stimulus bill. Which will do nothing to solve structural economic problems anyways.

Again you want a stimulus bill, so they have to agree with you. Their job is not to do whatever you mandate.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:39 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!


Let's not forget Mark Cuban too :p

I wonder if he could actually win.

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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:39 am

Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

You've only got that half right. Donald Trump proved that nothing is disqualifying when running for president if you're a Republican.

If you're a Democrat, though, clearly it doesn't matter if you haven't even done anything wrong, you're automatically disqualified.
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Postby Novus America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:41 am

Khadgar wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Benghazi was not treason. Just incompetence. Same with the email thing.


Oddly enough the Benghazi investigations focused on Clinton when the incompetence was Congress' refusal to fund better security. Can't imagine why.


Well there is enough incompetence to go around. But you can also point out bombing Libya with zero plan on what to do after was also incompetent.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby United States of Natan » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:42 am

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McMullin wins Utah
Neither Trump nor Clinton gets 270 votes.
It goes to the House
The House is divided
They go for the vanilla option: McMullin

Utah wouldn't be enough to stop either, or at least Hillary, from getting 270. But if they both didn't, odds are the house would elect Trump, and the senate would elect Pence.
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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:42 am

Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

Hey if Donald Trump loses on Tuesday, I wouldn't put it past him to run again in 2020

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:43 am

Khadgar wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:pffft

hes too old


Jared Fogel perhaps?

now THERE is a nice young man with good personal accomplishments.

and he can pardon himself so that he is free to work out of the oval office.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:43 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Let's not forget Mark Cuban too :p

I wonder if he could actually win.


well, he ain't insane and while he lacks political experience, he would be good, at least better than Trump.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:43 am

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

Hey if Donald Trump loses on Tuesday, I wouldn't put it past him to run again in 2020

Surely he wouldn't.

Then again, he has no shame or the capacity to ever admit he did anything wrong.

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Postby Novus America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:44 am

Hittanryan wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Umm literally hundreds of laws have been passed under Obama. They have worked with the other side. I agree they should hold a hearing on the supreme court nominee and a up or down vote, but you are moving the goal posts. That has not be the cause of our sluggish economy.

I won't comment on what did or didn't fix the economy, but don't piss in my ear and tell me it's raining. The 113th and the 114th Congresses were two of the least productive in US history. The Republicans voted as a bloc against the ACA, shut down the government over raising the debt ceiling, couldn't pass a budget to save their lives, fought tooth and nail against the Iran deal, refused to invest in repairing our deteriorating infrastructure, refused to pass gun control measures which a majority of gun owners (and Americans in general) support, made countless futile votes to repeal the ACA, and now they're talking about leaving Supreme Court vacant for four years if Clinton gets elected.

Congressional Republicans are obstructionist, and they have been since Obama took office in 2008. The fact that these do-nothing Republicans have no accomplishments of their own and tried to distract their base with conspiracy theories likely played a part in Trump's nomination.


Look I am no Republican. But they where not the only obstructionists. Both sides could have done more. Both sides failed. Both parties failed.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:44 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:I wonder if he could actually win.


well, he ain't insane and while he lacks political experience, he would be good, at least better than Trump.

He's rich enough to self-fund, he clearly has an interest in politics, and he's very charismatic.

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Postby Vladivostokava » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:44 am

Im going for Chris Keniston .. anyone else?
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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:44 am

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Khadgar wrote:I can't wait until 2019. Donald Trump has proven that literally nothing is disqualifying when it comes to running for president. Nothing.

Charles Manson 2020!

Hey if Donald Trump loses on Tuesday, I wouldn't put it past him to run again in 2020

Don't even say that out loud.
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