Why Does NationStates Seem to Attract Liberals?

[Charvah]

Because liberals like buying computers made by corporations, running on software developed by corporations, to open up an internet browser made by a corporation, to search on a search engine run by a corporation, to find a forum so they can rant about how they hate the evil corporations.

Win, sigged.

[Daemonicai]

I've been to a forum that attracts nationalists and conservatives, who get on well and politely with the liberals that are there. But then again, the forum attracts people who post intellectual and well-thought out comments to get to a collective answer and thesis for the question at hand, so they're bound to be polite (most of the time). But there are quite a few 'n00b5' there though, but not enough to drown the site.

[Desperate Measures]

It's not so much that I'm against corporations but that I'm against corporations shirking social responsibility in order to gain an extra dollar. Corporations make a lot of cool gadgets and junk.

[Kazerne]

I've noticed it, but not really paid much attention to it. I suppose that the general trend is that liberals are more techno-literate than thier conservative counterparts (See the blogosphere), and younger people tend to be more liberal in thier opinions than some older people are (Blame it on who we idolize in school these days...Civil rights, feminists, equal opportunity cases, etc, in my opinion). It's not really a bad thing, when viewed in context. However, as an unrepentant conservative myself, most of what I write will be dismissed as uneducated, ignorant rantings (And, before you jump on my case, there is a subtle but distinct difference between 'uneducated' and 'ignorant'. You can still be educated and ignorant.), so I really don't care what the slant of NationStates is.

[Siorafrica]

It's basically about the Culture War. Most folk aren't atheists offline so the atheists make sure that they're a majority online, ignoring of course that votes are cast offline and that since 99% of internet users are one of them they're pretty much preaching to the Pope.

[Desperate Measures]

It's basically about the Culture War. Most folk aren't atheists offline so the atheists make sure that they're a majority online, ignoring of course that votes are cast offline and that since 99% of internet users are one of them they're pretty much preaching to the Pope.

I'm having problems with your reasoning. Deep, fundamental problems that I can't wrap my mind around about how to address. Nearly all atheists are online and nearly all religious people are not? I think that is what you are saying.

[The Cat-Tribe]

It's basically about the Culture War. Most folk aren't atheists offline so the atheists make sure that they're a majority online, ignoring of course that votes are cast offline and that since 99% of internet users are one of them they're pretty much preaching to the Pope.

You are aware that that abomination of font has been banned by the Church. You are officially a heretic.

[Desperate Measures]

It's basically about the Culture War. Most folk aren't atheists offline so the atheists make sure that they're a majority online, ignoring of course that votes are cast offline and that since 99% of internet users are one of them they're pretty much preaching to the Pope.

You are aware that that abomination of font has been banned by the Church. You are officially a heretic.

Now, you're a heretic! Oh, no! The internet is driving us all from religion!!

[SaintB]

It's basically about the Culture War. Most folk aren't atheists offline so the atheists make sure that they're a majority online, ignoring of course that votes are cast offline and that since 99% of internet users are one of them they're pretty much preaching to the Pope.

You are aware that that abomination of font has been banned by the Church. You are officially a heretic.

May we burn her?
(Obligatory Python reference)

[Natvia]

I'm not a liberal.

I'm probably a moderate. I know this wasn't addressed at me specifically, I'm simply replying to a statement aimed at my personage that... nobody made.

Yes.

[Zeetopolis]

NS is supposed to be an outlet to create your perfect society, and leftists (especially liberals) tend to be more idealistic.

This, since their ideologies frequently result in corrupt slums when applied to real life. See: Detroit, Cleveland, etc.
Oops, was that a troll post?

[Natvia]

Yay! Vodka! The lubricant of the gears of socialist whatever!

[Zeetopolis]

Actually, another thought: This game is based on Max Berry's book Jennifer Government, which from what I understand is a critique of Capitalism by setting itself in a near-future in which Berry's perception of capitalism has manfested itself in a dystopia where corporations are evil and people have last names based on who they work for. Jennifer Government is a character, and I believe she's held in a symathetic view... and we obviously know who she works for.
So the game is based on a novel that is about bad corporations and good governments. Therefore the players of the game largely reflect this tinted worldview. There's your answer.

[Tokos]

Actually, another thought: This game is based on Max Berry's book Jennifer Government, which from what I understand is a critique of Capitalism by setting itself in a near-future in which Berry's perception of capitalism has manfested itself in a dystopia where corporations are evil and people have last names based on who they work for. Jennifer Government is a character, and I believe she's held in a symathetic view... and we obviously know who she works for.
So the game is based on a novel that is about bad corporations and good governments. Therefore the players of the game largely reflect this tinted worldview. There's your answer.

Anti-corporatist, pro-strong-government worldview is not necessarily liberal.

[Tekania]

Because liberals like buying computers made by corporations,

Actually mine is home built, and since it was built by me, as me; rather than me, as my LLC, it was not build by a "corporation".

running on software developed by corporations,

Linux...We have foundations, not corporations. Though we let them participate in development, as it is beneficial to them.

to open up an internet browser made by a corporation,

Yes, Mozilla Corporation, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, which is not the traditional investment driven corporate structure... More akin to the Linux distros. It's the new way of doing things, you dinosaur.

to search on a search engine run by a corporation, to find a forum so they can rant about how they hate the evil corporations.

"Corporations" are not evil, "Corporatism" is evil. Anything which exists solely to maximize profits to shareholders, is a bad and evil system. Shareholders should be the ones receiving the LEAST in the system.

[Bluth Corporation]

The premise of this thread is absurd.

There are hardly any liberals on NS. I am one of the few.

[Praetonia]

Habitual frequent NSG posting tends to attract permanent students and the unemployed, which is a disproportionately left-wing demographic.

[Drakonaj]

Ya you haven't seen the nationalists, nazis, monarchists, right-libertarians etc...

[Hayteria]

Because liberals like buying computers made by corporations, running on software developed by corporations, to open up an internet browser made by a corporation, to search on a search engine run by a corporation, to find a forum so they can rant about how they hate the evil corporations.

Win, sigged.

More like "fail" if any of the users they're referring to use Firefox instead.

EDIT: And just because they use things made by corporations (kind of inevitable in our society) doesn't mean they don't get to criticize them. I'll leave it at that, because I don't think proponents of the "be grateful for the corporations" perspective can be reasoned with.

[Nimzonia]

Because liberals like buying computers made by corporations, running on software developed by corporations, to open up an internet browser made by a corporation, to search on a search engine run by a corporation, to find a forum so they can rant about how they hate the evil corporations.

Win, sigged.

I don't get this whole thing about sigging other people's dumb posts. It's like wearing one of those "I'm with stupid" t-shirts. Everyone just looks at you, rolls their eyes, and thinks "What a tool."

[St George of England]

Because liberals like buying computers made by corporations, running on software developed by corporations, to open up an internet browser made by a corporation, to search on a search engine run by a corporation, to find a forum so they can rant about how they hate the evil corporations.

Win, sigged.

I don't get this whole thing about sigging other people's dumb posts. It's like wearing one of those "I'm with stupid" t-shirts. Everyone just looks at you, rolls their eyes, and thinks "What a tool."

i don't know about that, some of the new nick's ones are funny

if anything posts complaining about sigs make me think 'what a tool'

[Middle of somewhere]

Because liberals like buying computers made by corporations, running on software developed by corporations, to open up an internet browser made by a corporation, to search on a search engine run by a corporation, to find a forum so they can rant about how they hate the evil corporations.

would sig, if i knew how to

[Caninope]

I've noticed it, but not really paid much attention to it. I suppose that the general trend is that liberals are more techno-literate than thier conservative counterparts (See the blogosphere), and younger people tend to be more liberal in thier opinions than some older people are (Blame it on who we idolize in school these days...Civil rights, feminists, equal opportunity cases, etc, in my opinion). It's not really a bad thing, when viewed in context. However, as an unrepentant conservative myself, most of what I write will be dismissed as uneducated, ignorant rantings (And, before you jump on my case, there is a subtle but distinct difference between 'uneducated' and 'ignorant'. You can still be educated and ignorant.), so I really don't care what the slant of NationStates is.

Must not hold true with Senators.

[Augarundus]

Liberals are typically younger, more politically active, and online than conservatives.

Also, NS attracts individuals with very distinct ideologies, as opposed to just 'conservatives' and 'liberals'. One should note that NS is overwhelmingly socialist, whereas, in real life, 'socialist' is an insult (one that entails massive public disapproval). A significant portion of NS is even communist.

Also, please note that, on the other side (and that's a small portion of NS), there are few 'moderate capitalists'. Most 'capitalists' (like myself) are complete, laissez-faire Objectivists. Capitalists on NS are usually laissez-faire, while most RL capitalists are just anti-Keynesian, but not necessarily 'laissez-faire'.

[Nort Eurasia]

Most, but not all, young people are liberals. And based on most of the age surveys done on some threads, a large amount of people on here are young.