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Postby Marcheria » Tue May 17, 2011 12:14 pm

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Kreigan wrote:Actually your wrong, marriage originally was a pagan ritual of which the father exchanged his daughter to another man for money or property. Women werrent looked at as people but more as property and so christanity and other religons took that and made it a ceremony involving god. Yet its funny that most divorces come from religous people who marry under god.


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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue May 17, 2011 12:48 pm

NeoByzantine wrote:
Norstal wrote:Yes yes. I don't believe fundamentalists should get married either. We need less fundamentalists, not more.

funny 1 I AM NOT A F-ing BAPTIST. 2 NOR AM I FUNDALMENTILIST,3 i have nothing against gays, i have many gay and bisexual friends. 4 going to hell if your gay is a tennet of my religion, not my belief so forgive for being religious. 4 go eastern orthodox

Show me where it says "All gays go to hell", if you would.

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Postby Geniasis » Tue May 17, 2011 1:03 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Norstal wrote:I think they are talking about taxes.

I was unaware that gay people didn't pay taxes.


Holy shit. Do you think they're accepting applications?
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Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby SpectacularSpectacular » Tue May 17, 2011 1:06 pm

Geniasis wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I was unaware that gay people didn't pay taxes.


Holy shit. Do you think they're accepting applications?


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Postby Geniasis » Tue May 17, 2011 1:06 pm

Tekania wrote:Well, remember, nuns would beat kids for being left-handed.


Hence why every time I encounter a nun, I wake up in a jail cell with 13 broken rulers and an assault charge.
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Myrensis wrote:I say turn it into a brothel, that way Muslims and Christians can be offended together.


DaWoad wrote:nah, she only fought because, as everyone knows, the brits can't make a decent purse to save their lives and she had a VERY important shopping trip coming up!


Reichskommissariat ost wrote:Women are as good as men , I dont know why they constantly whine about things.


Euronion wrote:because how dare me ever ever try to demand rights for myself, right men, we should just lie down and let the women trample over us, let them take awa our rights, our right to vote will be next just don't say I didn't warn ou

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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 17, 2011 1:14 pm

I believe that if they want rights, they should fight for them. Not fight by using politicians and lawyers to force them to have rights, but fight like the American's did against the British. If they are truly worthy of rights, then they should be able to use force to convince us of that.

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Postby Meryuma » Tue May 17, 2011 1:16 pm

NeoByzantine wrote:i have no problems with gays, but be gay ur going to hell


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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 17, 2011 1:18 pm

Meryuma wrote:
NeoByzantine wrote:i have no problems with gays, but be gay ur going to hell


"I have no problem with gays, but they should be tortured in a lake of fire for all eternity".

I like that idea. Can I roast them and serve them on pizza, too? :p

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Postby Norstal » Tue May 17, 2011 1:18 pm

Hathradic States wrote:I believe that if they want rights, they should fight for them. Not fight by using politicians and lawyers to force them to have rights, but fight like the American's did against the British. If they are truly worthy of rights, then they should be able to use force to convince us of that.

Hahah

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Postby Marcheria » Tue May 17, 2011 1:20 pm

Norstal wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:I believe that if they want rights, they should fight for them. Not fight by using politicians and lawyers to force them to have rights, but fight like the American's did against the British. If they are truly worthy of rights, then they should be able to use force to convince us of that.

Hahah

Haha

No.

Funny idea though. The "Fabulous" Revolution...
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 17, 2011 1:20 pm

Norstal wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:I believe that if they want rights, they should fight for them. Not fight by using politicians and lawyers to force them to have rights, but fight like the American's did against the British. If they are truly worthy of rights, then they should be able to use force to convince us of that.

Hahah

Haha

No.

Explain to me how anybody can have inherent rights in a secular state in any other way then by fighting for them? Where can the base their worth and their rights from without divine statement?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 17, 2011 1:20 pm

Hathradic States wrote:I believe that if they want rights, they should fight for them. Not fight by using politicians and lawyers to force them to have rights, but fight like the American's did against the British. If they are truly worthy of rights, then they should be able to use force to convince us of that.

Right. And Liberals should use physical violence against Fascists, because if Fascists were worthy of rights, they'd win.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 17, 2011 1:22 pm

Hathradic States wrote:Explain to me how anybody can have inherent rights in a secular state in any other way then by fighting for them? Where can the base their worth and their rights from without divine statement?

Through the law. The law grants us certain rights considered legally to be inherent to our position as citizens of the country.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 17, 2011 1:22 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:I believe that if they want rights, they should fight for them. Not fight by using politicians and lawyers to force them to have rights, but fight like the American's did against the British. If they are truly worthy of rights, then they should be able to use force to convince us of that.

Right. And Liberals should use physical violence against Fascists, because if Fascists were worthy of rights, they'd win.

Yes. And Conservatives should use force against liberials. We'd win, too, since we believe in our guns.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue May 17, 2011 1:23 pm

Hathradic States wrote:I believe that if they want rights, they should fight for them. Not fight by using politicians and lawyers to force them to have rights, but fight like the American's did against the British. If they are truly worthy of rights, then they should be able to use force to convince us of that.

It just so happens that under the current powers that be, which did fight for rights, all people should be equal under said power. So fighting for them is kind of moot.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 17, 2011 1:23 pm

Hathradic States wrote:Yes. And Conservatives should use force against liberials. We'd win, too, since we believe in our guns.

Because that's what wins wars. Civilians with guns.
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Postby Norstal » Tue May 17, 2011 1:27 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Right. And Liberals should use physical violence against Fascists, because if Fascists were worthy of rights, they'd win.

Yes. And Conservatives should use force against liberials. We'd win, too, since we believe in our guns.

Wow really? Are you saying conservatives are pussies?

Your enemy are the terrorists. Not civilians, pussies and cowards.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 17, 2011 1:27 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Explain to me how anybody can have inherent rights in a secular state in any other way then by fighting for them? Where can the base their worth and their rights from without divine statement?

Through the law. The law grants us certain rights considered legally to be inherent to our position as citizens of the country.

And, furthermore, what would provide the basis for those laws to be expanded? If the majority would simply not allow the minority to gain a foothold of power, then there would never be a threat to the power of the majority.

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Hathradic States wrote:Yes. And Conservatives should use force against liberials. We'd win, too, since we believe in our guns.

Because that's what wins wars. Civilians with guns.

It helps. Just ask the Russians.

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Postby Norstal » Tue May 17, 2011 1:28 pm

Hathradic States wrote:It helps. Just ask the Russians.

You want corrupt politicians? What?
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Postby Marcheria » Tue May 17, 2011 1:29 pm

Norstal wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Yes. And Conservatives should use force against liberials. We'd win, too, since we believe in our guns.

Wow really? Are you saying conservatives are pussies?

Your enemy are the terrorists. Not civilians, pussies and cowards.

The enemy is not the political parties, the church or the terrorists! It is ourselves! Our inherent stupidity and gullibility has put us in our current situation. Renounce greed and accept your fellow Homo sapiens and THEN we may have a little order in this world!
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 17, 2011 1:30 pm

Hathradic States wrote:And, furthermore, what would provide the basis for those laws to be expanded? If the majority would simply not allow the minority to gain a foothold of power, then there would never be a threat to the power of the majority.

Indeed. And there isn't. Of course, the fact remains that the majority and the minority are not always at odds.
It helps. Just ask the Russians.

The Russians? You mean the same country that used large, well-coordinated attacks by trained soldiers to overwhelm the enemy?

lolwut?
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 17, 2011 1:31 pm

Marcheria wrote:
Norstal wrote:Wow really? Are you saying conservatives are pussies?

Your enemy are the terrorists. Not civilians, pussies and cowards.

The enemy is not the political parties, the church or the terrorists! It is ourselves! Our inherent stupidity and gullibility has put us in our current situation. Renounce greed and accept your fellow Homo sapiens and THEN we may have a little order in this world!

Order is boring. If I cannot have a totalitarian state led by me, then let anarchy reign.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue May 17, 2011 1:31 pm

Marcheria wrote:The enemy is not the political parties, the church or the terrorists! It is ourselves! Our inherent stupidity and gullibility has put us in our current situation. Renounce greed and accept your fellow Homo sapiens and THEN we may have a little order in this world!

Foolishness. War is a tool, politics, as Von Clausewitz said, by any other means. Our enemies are those that oppose our views, and as such should be opposed in any way that one's ideology allows.
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Postby Tekania » Tue May 17, 2011 1:31 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Right. And Liberals should use physical violence against Fascists, because if Fascists were worthy of rights, they'd win.

Yes. And Conservatives should use force against liberials. We'd win, too, since we believe in our guns.


Except y'all can't shoot worth shit and you keep cutting our VA benefits.
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Postby Norstal » Tue May 17, 2011 1:32 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Marcheria wrote:The enemy is not the political parties, the church or the terrorists! It is ourselves! Our inherent stupidity and gullibility has put us in our current situation. Renounce greed and accept your fellow Homo sapiens and THEN we may have a little order in this world!

Order is boring. If I cannot have a totalitarian state led by me, then let anarchy reign.

The best part is that you're Christian!
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