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Will Biden's Reticence in Supporting Israel Cost Him The Election?

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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:20 am

Corrian wrote:

I feel like that was basically inevitable, I'm not sure what the Nebraska Republicans thought was going to happen.

What do I always say about Politics? according to my research Nebraska has 5 electoral votes and Maine has 4 electoral votes. Post edited.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:24 am

GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:
Corrian wrote:I feel like that was basically inevitable, I'm not sure what the Nebraska Republicans thought was going to happen.

What do I always say about Politics?


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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:30 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:What do I always say about Politics?


something incoherent

Posted by Dumb Ideologies to me GMS:
something incoherent. I lol at the Context of your statement, and any persons who support your statement, with Pride and Honor, lol :) :rofl:. I was also just about to edit my Post above, according to my research Nebraska has 5 electoral votes and Maine has 4 electoral votes.
GMS: I am a Political Junkie and Political Expert on NS and discord. With my real world nations, regional world nations, with real world statistics as much as possible, with Pics of their real world leaders, I read, learn and follow. What have I GMS been doing on NS for over 13 Years since the old co UK forum days and NS 2. Posting my and our Pro Republican Facts with Personal respect to those who think differently. Hardly ever on and off NS and discord, a Person says to the other Person, I am wrong and you are right, my Bad. These are Facts. Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan original Make America Great Again President and President Trump are the Greatest American Presidents of the USA. According to me and my Friend Historian Carlos Lumpuy. of French Cuban American descent.

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Postby Haganham » Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:57 am

The Black Forrest wrote:-edit- forgot to mention the paper link does not work….

annoying. Here is a pdf instead https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/1 ... 9417-8.pdf
Imagine reading a signature, but over the course of it the quality seems to deteriorate and it gets wose an wose, where the swenetence stwucture and gwammer rewerts to a pwoint of uttew non swence, an u jus dont wanna wead it anymwore (o´ω`o) awd twa wol owdewl iws jus awfwul (´・ω・`);. bwt tw sinawtur iwswnwt obwer nyet, it gwos own an own an own an own. uwu wanyaa stwop weadwing bwut uwu cwant stop wewding, uwu stwartd thwis awnd ur gwoing two fwinibsh it nowo mwattew wat! uwu hab mwoxie kwiddowo, bwut uwu wibl gwib ub sowon. i cwan wite wike dis fwor owors, swo dwont cwalengbe mii..

… wbats dis??? uwu awe stwill weedinb mwie sinatwr?? uwu habe awot ob detewemwinyanyatiom!! 。◕‿◕。! u habve comopweedid tha signwtr, good job!

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:12 am

GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:The Biden administration is delaying its proposed menthol ban. The reason likely? Political considerations: menthol cigarettes are heavily used by the Black Community, and the fear is that this will decrease turnout among the community and thus, hurt Biden's chances of winning. Of course, enacting the ban can prevent up to 654,000 smoking-related deaths over the next 40 years, including as many as 238,000 deaths among African Americans. That longer delay has been met with criticism.



Indeed, and I think it will help in the long run. Biden did agree to debate Trump too. I'm not sure if going on Stern's show will result in increase support for Biden (he should do more interviews) but it's a start.

You mean Biden Plays Politics with this issue? Biden Plays Politics with the Gaza Issue and all issues. Does Biden Play Politics? I Say Yes Biden Plays Politics.


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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:25 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:You mean Biden Plays Politics with this issue? Biden Plays Politics with the Gaza Issue and all issues. Does Biden Play Politics? I Say Yes Biden Plays Politics.


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Thank You for supporting my Post. I have asked this question many times and no one answers Yes to it. I have asked the questions:

01: Does Biden Play Politics?
02: Do Leftist Democrats Play Politics?
03: In Politics everything works both ways? So far only Bombadil has agreed with question 03.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:09 am

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... rcna149631


South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem defends her account of killing own dog in new book
Noem, a potential VP pick for Donald Trump, describes killing the 14-month-old dog after deciding it was “less than worthless” and “untrainable.”

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:29 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/kristi-noem-defends-account-killing-dog-new-book-rcna149631


South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem defends her account of killing own dog in new book
Noem, a potential VP pick for Donald Trump, describes killing the 14-month-old dog after deciding it was “less than worthless” and “untrainable.”


Would she take Old Orange behind the barn if he got really rabid?
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Postby Risottia » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:32 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/kristi-noem-defends-account-killing-dog-new-book-rcna149631


South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem defends her account of killing own dog in new book
Noem, a potential VP pick for Donald Trump, describes killing the 14-month-old dog after deciding it was “less than worthless” and “untrainable.”

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog
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Postby HISPIDA » Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:43 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/kristi-noem-defends-account-killing-dog-new-book-rcna149631


South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem defends her account of killing own dog in new book
Noem, a potential VP pick for Donald Trump, describes killing the 14-month-old dog after deciding it was “less than worthless” and “untrainable.”

what a disgusting person.
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Postby Haganham » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:07 am

HISPIDA wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/kristi-noem-defends-account-killing-dog-new-book-rcna149631


South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem defends her account of killing own dog in new book
Noem, a potential VP pick for Donald Trump, describes killing the 14-month-old dog after deciding it was “less than worthless” and “untrainable.”

what a disgusting person.

Yep. Would be a dealbreaker for me if I had the choice.
Imagine reading a signature, but over the course of it the quality seems to deteriorate and it gets wose an wose, where the swenetence stwucture and gwammer rewerts to a pwoint of uttew non swence, an u jus dont wanna wead it anymwore (o´ω`o) awd twa wol owdewl iws jus awfwul (´・ω・`);. bwt tw sinawtur iwswnwt obwer nyet, it gwos own an own an own an own. uwu wanyaa stwop weadwing bwut uwu cwant stop wewding, uwu stwartd thwis awnd ur gwoing two fwinibsh it nowo mwattew wat! uwu hab mwoxie kwiddowo, bwut uwu wibl gwib ub sowon. i cwan wite wike dis fwor owors, swo dwont cwalengbe mii..

… wbats dis??? uwu awe stwill weedinb mwie sinatwr?? uwu habe awot ob detewemwinyanyatiom!! 。◕‿◕。! u habve comopweedid tha signwtr, good job!

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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:15 am

Haganham wrote:
HISPIDA wrote:what a disgusting person.

Yep. Would be a dealbreaker for me if I had the choice.

I have found a few news stories on line, where Kristy Noem describes the details of the incidents and the reasons for it. The news story posted by the poster states: “We love animals, but tough decisions like this happen all the time on a farm.NBC News has not obtained Noem's book or independently verified the section reported by The Guardian.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/politics ... 0bit%20her.

In the excerpt, Noem writes she attempted to tame the dog, who she said behaved “like a trained assassin,” with an electronic collar, but ultimately made the decision to put her down by shooting her in a gravel pit after an incident in which the dog attacked a local family’s chickens and bit her.

“It was not a pleasant job,” Noem writes, according to The Guardian, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realized another unpleasant job needed to be done.”
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Postby HISPIDA » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:22 am

GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:
Haganham wrote:Yep. Would be a dealbreaker for me if I had the choice.

I have found a few news stories on line, where Kristy Noem describes the details of the incidents and the reasons for it. The news story posted by the poster states: “We love animals, but tough decisions like this happen all the time on a farm.NBC News has not obtained Noem's book or independently verified the section reported by The Guardian.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/politics ... 0bit%20her.

In the excerpt, Noem writes she attempted to tame the dog, who she said behaved “like a trained assassin,” with an electronic collar, but ultimately made the decision to put her down by shooting her in a gravel pit after an incident in which the dog attacked a local family’s chickens and bit her.

“It was not a pleasant job,” Noem writes, according to The Guardian, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realized another unpleasant job needed to be done.”

of course the dog's gonna go out of control if she fucking abuses it.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:25 am

GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:
Corrian wrote:I feel like that was basically inevitable, I'm not sure what the Nebraska Republicans thought was going to happen.

What do I always say about Politics? according to my research Nebraska has 5 electoral votes and Maine has 4 electoral votes. Post edited.


Neither of them should abolish the vote by congressional district system.
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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:30 am

HISPIDA wrote:
GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:I have found a few news stories on line, where Kristy Noem describes the details of the incidents and the reasons for it. The news story posted by the poster states: “We love animals, but tough decisions like this happen all the time on a farm.NBC News has not obtained Noem's book or independently verified the section reported by The Guardian.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/politics ... 0bit%20her.

In the excerpt, Noem writes she attempted to tame the dog, who she said behaved “like a trained assassin,” with an electronic collar, but ultimately made the decision to put her down by shooting her in a gravel pit after an incident in which the dog attacked a local family’s chickens and bit her.

“It was not a pleasant job,” Noem writes, according to The Guardian, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realized another unpleasant job needed to be done.”

of course the dog's gonna go out of control if she fucking abuses it.

of course the dog is gonna go out of control if she abuses it, but who said she abused it? So far I have not found any links that say she abused it.
GMS: I am a Political Junkie and Political Expert on NS and discord. With my real world nations, regional world nations, with real world statistics as much as possible, with Pics of their real world leaders, I read, learn and follow. What have I GMS been doing on NS for over 13 Years since the old co UK forum days and NS 2. Posting my and our Pro Republican Facts with Personal respect to those who think differently. Hardly ever on and off NS and discord, a Person says to the other Person, I am wrong and you are right, my Bad. These are Facts. Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan original Make America Great Again President and President Trump are the Greatest American Presidents of the USA. According to me and my Friend Historian Carlos Lumpuy. of French Cuban American descent.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:32 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:What do I always say about Politics? according to my research Nebraska has 5 electoral votes and Maine has 4 electoral votes. Post edited.


Neither of them should abolish the vote by congressional district system.


what's your rationale?

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:37 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Neither of them should abolish the vote by congressional district system.


what's your rationale?


If we are going to use an electoral college then the votes should be distributed in proportion to popular vote. I guess one way could be via congressional district.

And the 270 to win rule should be abolished.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:39 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/kristi-noem-defends-account-killing-dog-new-book-rcna149631


South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem defends her account of killing own dog in new book
Noem, a potential VP pick for Donald Trump, describes killing the 14-month-old dog after deciding it was “less than worthless” and “untrainable.”


What the fudge?
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:40 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
what's your rationale?


If we are going to use an electoral college then the votes should be distributed in proportion to popular vote. I guess one way could be via congressional district.

And the 270 to win rule should be abolished.


And then it's possible you'd get the election thrown to the house much more often.

By congressional district is a terrible idea due to gerrymandering.

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Postby GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
If we are going to use an electoral college then the votes should be distributed in proportion to popular vote. I guess one way could be via congressional district.

And the 270 to win rule should be abolished.


And then it's possible you'd get the election thrown to the house much more often.

By congressional district is a terrible idea due to gerrymandering.

You make excellent Points.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
If we are going to use an electoral college then the votes should be distributed in proportion to popular vote. I guess one way could be via congressional district.

And the 270 to win rule should be abolished.


And then it's possible you'd get the election thrown to the house much more often.

By congressional district is a terrible idea due to gerrymandering.


If you abolish the 270 to win rule then there is no need for Contingent Elections. Whoever gets the most electoral votes wins.

Crackdown on gerrymandering then, or straight up abolish the electoral college.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:50 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
And then it's possible you'd get the election thrown to the house much more often.

By congressional district is a terrible idea due to gerrymandering.


If you abolish the 270 to win rule then there is no need for Contingent Elections. Whoever gets the most electoral votes wins.

Crackdown on gerrymandering then, or straight up abolish the electoral college.


270 is a majority.

i do agree gerrymandering should be abolished. The thing is you need a national standard and unlike in the UK we don't have a national board that draws lines.

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Postby HISPIDA » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:52 am

GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:
HISPIDA wrote:of course the dog's gonna go out of control if she fucking abuses it.

of course the dog is gonna go out of control if she abuses it, but who said she abused it? So far I have not found any links that say she abused it.

your own link says she used an electric collar. electric collars are animal abuse.

in either case, the correct response to dealing with a puppy who isn't emotionally mature---like all puppies are!---isn't to fucking murder it. it's to train it. it's really not that hard to not be a fucking failure of a human being like she is.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:07 am

Seems worse than Mitt Romney strapping his dog to the roof rack of his car. A "survey found that 74% of Democrats, 66% of Independents, and 63% of Republicans consider it inhumane to put a family dog in a kennel on the roof of a car", I wonder what they think of shooting a still very young dog.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:12 am

HISPIDA wrote:
GMS Greater Miami Shores 1 wrote:of course the dog is gonna go out of control if she abuses it, but who said she abused it? So far I have not found any links that say she abused it.

your own link says she used an electric collar. electric collars are animal abuse.

in either case, the correct response to dealing with a puppy who isn't emotionally mature---like all puppies are!---isn't to fucking murder it. it's to train it. it's really not that hard to not be a fucking failure of a human being like she is.


I think she ought to be investigated for animal cruelty charges. It sucks someone can't be charged with murder for cases like this.

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