Point taken, carry on.
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by Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:42 am
by Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:43 am
by The balkens » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:46 am
by Auremena » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:47 am
by Gallade » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:47 am
by The Grim Reaper » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:48 am
by The balkens » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:50 am
The Grim Reaper wrote:
If I remember correctly, someone already tried that, but made the mistake of assuming that an invading German army wouldn't just invade around it. Which, to be fair, isn't as ridiculous as I make it sound - very few nations use the "more wars" technique to resolve logistical and strategic impediments.
by The Grim Reaper » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:50 am
by Gallade » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:51 am
The Grim Reaper wrote:
If I remember correctly, someone already tried that, but made the mistake of assuming that an invading German army wouldn't just invade around it. Which, to be fair, isn't as ridiculous as I make it sound - very few nations use the "more wars" technique to resolve logistical and strategic impediments.
by The balkens » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:53 am
Gallade wrote:The Grim Reaper wrote:
If I remember correctly, someone already tried that, but made the mistake of assuming that an invading German army wouldn't just invade around it. Which, to be fair, isn't as ridiculous as I make it sound - very few nations use the "more wars" technique to resolve logistical and strategic impediments.
We don't speak of the Maginot Line, shhh.
by Gallade » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:54 am
The balkens wrote:The Grim Reaper wrote:
If I remember correctly, someone already tried that, but made the mistake of assuming that an invading German army wouldn't just invade around it. Which, to be fair, isn't as ridiculous as I make it sound - very few nations use the "more wars" technique to resolve logistical and strategic impediments.
The only reason why the Maginot lined failed is that Belgium pussed out of it.
That and the the french army was still recovering from ww1.
by The Grim Reaper » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:55 am
Gallade wrote:The Grim Reaper wrote:
If I remember correctly, someone already tried that, but made the mistake of assuming that an invading German army wouldn't just invade around it. Which, to be fair, isn't as ridiculous as I make it sound - very few nations use the "more wars" technique to resolve logistical and strategic impediments.
We don't speak of the Maginot Line, shhh.
by The Serbian Empire » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:56 am
by Abserdia » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:56 am
The Serbian Empire wrote:Does Baertschi sound like a rejected Pokémon?
by The balkens » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:57 am
Gallade wrote:The balkens wrote:
The only reason why the Maginot lined failed is that Belgium pussed out of it.
That and the the french army was still recovering from ww1.
In fairness to Narnia it wasn't its fault that Hitler gave zero shits about the inviolability of neutrality. Should the Maginot line been extended to the British Channel, probably, but invading a neutral nation was until that point largely unthinkable.
by The Serbian Empire » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:58 am
Gallade wrote:The Grim Reaper wrote:
If I remember correctly, someone already tried that, but made the mistake of assuming that an invading German army wouldn't just invade around it. Which, to be fair, isn't as ridiculous as I make it sound - very few nations use the "more wars" technique to resolve logistical and strategic impediments.
We don't speak of the Maginot Line, shhh.
by Gallade » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:59 am
The balkens wrote:Gallade wrote:In fairness to Narnia it wasn't its fault that Hitler gave zero shits about the inviolability of neutrality. Should the Maginot line been extended to the British Channel, probably, but invading a neutral nation was until that point largely unthinkable.
It should have been thinkable. considering the Germans performed the SAME maneuver as according to the schlieffen plan, but that didnt count on British intervention, as the war plan was a rather old one. Shouldve came up with a more updated plan in order to keep the british out.
by Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:01 am
The Grim Reaper wrote:Gallade wrote:Ohoohooo no, no more state projects. We're still in hostile talks with the city of London to be paid for the goddamn Olympic Stadium light fittings already.
Well, I'm not suggesting I need to be paid off for PR purposes, but the only thing I remember of the London Olympics is how the lighting fixtures were merely adequate. That, and Rowan Atkinson's...100m men's world record? Lighting the torch? Cricket commentary? Something like that.
by Gallade » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:02 am
Ethel mermania wrote:The Grim Reaper wrote:
Well, I'm not suggesting I need to be paid off for PR purposes, but the only thing I remember of the London Olympics is how the lighting fixtures were merely adequate. That, and Rowan Atkinson's...100m men's world record? Lighting the torch? Cricket commentary? Something like that.
The fittings were dreadful, all the light got out.
by Ethel mermania » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:03 am
Gallade wrote:The balkens wrote:
The only reason why the Maginot lined failed is that Belgium pussed out of it.
That and the the french army was still recovering from ww1.
In fairness to Narnia it wasn't its fault that Hitler gave zero shits about the inviolability of neutrality. Should the Maginot line been extended to the British Channel, probably, but invading a neutral nation was until that point largely unthinkable.
by The Grim Reaper » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:04 am
The balkens wrote:Gallade wrote:In fairness to Narnia it wasn't its fault that Hitler gave zero shits about the inviolability of neutrality. Should the Maginot line been extended to the British Channel, probably, but invading a neutral nation was until that point largely unthinkable.
It should have been thinkable. considering the Germans performed the SAME maneuver as according to the schlieffen plan, but that didnt count on British intervention, as the war plan was a rather old one. Shouldve came up with a more updated plan in order to keep the british out.
by The balkens » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:04 am
Gallade wrote:The balkens wrote:
It should have been thinkable. considering the Germans performed the SAME maneuver as according to the schlieffen plan, but that didnt count on British intervention, as the war plan was a rather old one. Shouldve came up with a more updated plan in order to keep the british out.
But WWI tactics are hip and happening.
by The balkens » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:06 am
The Grim Reaper wrote:The balkens wrote:
It should have been thinkable. considering the Germans performed the SAME maneuver as according to the schlieffen plan, but that didnt count on British intervention, as the war plan was a rather old one. Shouldve came up with a more updated plan in order to keep the british out.
In my educated opinion, drawing from years of university education, I blame the French media for not doing their part in producing a pro-Maginot narrative and pan-Benelux communal identity, which could have been done by utilizing focus groups to test the effectiveness of various semiotic devices.
Drawing from my uneducated opinion, and a basic knowledge of logic, I have a feeling that's not quite the best way of going around it. I don't really see how Belgium could have participated in building the Maginot Line without giving up what was probably the only real military advantage they had (the only winning move is not to play). If I were in the Belgian position, though, I would have really liked the Maginot Line to stretch to the Channel - it might have kept the Germans busy ramming into Alsace instead of spending the effort on Belgium just to hit more Maginot.
by Auremena » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:09 am
In darkness, apparently.
by The Grim Reaper » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:11 am
The balkens wrote:But WWI tactics are hip and happening.
That Italians thought that and faced the full might of American firepower at sicily and southern Italy, as well as Africa.
The Japanese worked around the INSANELY dumb idea of Decisive battle (based upon the 1905 war against the russians).
The russians back in the winter war, however, had to make shit up to stalin in order to justify the EXTREME casualties the red army was facing due to Trenches being filled with angry and irate finns.
against Finland.
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