UK Politics IV: Disraeli Gears

[Olerand]

But still held, and still won by Leave. Britain should therefore accept the democratic mandate and get out.

There's a bigger democratic mandate to not leave the EU on the basis of the results of the 2015 General Election, just saying

"Democratic Mandate" is something of a dumb argument.

But you had the referendum, chronologically after the elections too. Leave won. Don't be sore losers, just go.

Then so is democracy, but such is our world. Now out.

[Hydesland]

Don't be sore losers, just go.

Nah.

[Olerand]

Don't be sore losers, just go.

Nah.

Perfidious.

[Wolfmanne2]

There's a bigger democratic mandate to not leave the EU on the basis of the results of the 2015 General Election, just saying

"Democratic Mandate" is something of a dumb argument.

But you had the referendum, chronologically after the elections too. Leave won. Don't be sore losers, just go.

Then so is democracy, but such is our world. Now out.

It is not part of the British mentality to surrender so easily...

[Souseiseki]

https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

lol

[Elepis]

Saying that the sheer level of opposition in those regions and nationally is a good reason to not have left the EU isn't "making someone's vote count more", unless you're mad.

The referendum was a dumb idea, for a dumb decision, on a dumb threshold.

But still held, and still won by Leave. Britain should therefore accept the democratic mandate and get out.

No

Oxi

Nyet

Nine

[Souseiseki]

Oxi

oooooh, didn't know that one

Nine

oh god this is so cute

[Elepis]

Oxi

oooooh, didn't know that one

Nine

oh god this is so cute

I thought about using google translate, then I thought, I'll be honest I don't know it

[The Nihilistic view]

But you had the referendum, chronologically after the elections too. Leave won. Don't be sore losers, just go.

Then so is democracy, but such is our world. Now out.

It is not part of the British mentality to surrender so easily...

And that is why we voted to unsurrender powers to the EU.

[Vassenor]

It is not part of the British mentality to surrender so easily...

And that is why we voted to unsurrender powers to the EU.

And look where that's gotten us.

[Greed and Death]

In other sad news Dr Who is being cancelled after the current season, apparently with less access to the lucrative European market Dr. Who is just not profitable to produce its current form.

[Elepis]

In other sad news Dr Who is being cancelled after the current season, apparently with less access to the lucrative European market Dr. Who is just not profitable to produce its current form.

You arse, you almost got me then

[Questers]

Why should a Catholic get to be the King or Queen? Is there some kind of "human right to be Monarch" that I haven't heard about? In that case we have all had our human rights violated already so

[Questers]

Oxi

oooooh, didn't know that one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohi_Day

[Elepis]

Why should a Catholic get to be the King or Queen? Is there some kind of "human right to be Monarch" that I haven't heard about? In that case we have all had our human rights violated already so

why should they not?

as much as I loath the monarchy, they are (apparently) humans so shouldn't they be able to chose their own religion?

[Ifreann]

Why should a Catholic get to be the King or Queen? Is there some kind of "human right to be Monarch" that I haven't heard about? In that case we have all had our human rights violated already so

Why should a monarch not be allowed to be Catholic? Is there not a human right to freely practice the religion of one's choice?

[Questers]

Is there not a human right to freely practice the religion of one's choice?

I'll let you know how my application to become an Imam goes then.

There's absolutely a right to practice the religion of your choice. That doesn't mean you can hold any public office while holding that religion. They're not the same thing.

[Huswyae]

It's no secret that Corbyn is a commie who doesn't want to admit it. If he isn't sacked as Labour leader then he'll turn the party into dirty communists and tear it apart.

[Ifreann]

Is there not a human right to freely practice the religion of one's choice?

I'll let you know how my application to become an Imam goes then.

There's absolutely a right to practice the religion of your choice. That doesn't mean you can hold any public office while holding that religion. They're not the same thing.

Religious tests for public office, is it? Doesn't sound very legit to me. If the Queen took it into her head to convert to Buddhism I don't see how that would make her any worse at waving to crowds or having the odd chat with the PM.

[Elepis]

Is there not a human right to freely practice the religion of one's choice?

I'll let you know how my application to become an Imam goes then.

There's absolutely a right to practice the religion of your choice. That doesn't mean you can hold any public office while holding that religion. They're not the same thing.

why not though?

[Elepis]

It's no secret that Corbyn is a commie who doesn't want to admit it. If he isn't sacked as Labour leader then he'll turn the party into dirty communists and tear it apart.

Yeah.......keep on dreaming

[The Huskar Social Union]

It's no secret that Corbyn is a commie who doesn't want to admit it. If he isn't sacked as Labour leader then he'll turn the party into dirty communists and tear it apart.

Yeah.......keep on dreaming

[Old Tyrannia]

Why should a Catholic get to be the King or Queen? Is there some kind of "human right to be Monarch" that I haven't heard about? In that case we have all had our human rights violated already so

why should they not?

as much as I loath the monarchy, they are (apparently) humans so shouldn't they be able to chose their own religion?

I suppose you think the Pope ought be allowed to convert to Protestantism, too. And that the Emperor of Japan should be able to convert to Islam.

Surprisingly heads of state who also possess religious roles aren't allowed to not be members of the religion they hold a position within. If a king or queen really wanted to convert to Catholicism, they are free to abdicate and renounce their claim to the throne.

[Philjia]

why should they not?

as much as I loath the monarchy, they are (apparently) humans so shouldn't they be able to chose their own religion?

I suppose you think the Pope ought be allowed to convert to Protestantism, too. And that the Emperor of Japan should be able to convert to Islam.

Surprisingly heads of state who also possess religious roles aren't allowed to not be members of the religion they hold a position within. If a king or queen really wanted to convert to Catholicism, they are free to abdicate and renounce their claim to the throne.

Or, parliament could repeal the Act of Settlement, which they themselves created and is the only barrier to a Catholic monarch. The role of the Head of the Church of England is independent from the role of monarch.

[Old Tyrannia]

I suppose you think the Pope ought be allowed to convert to Protestantism, too. And that the Emperor of Japan should be able to convert to Islam.

Surprisingly heads of state who also possess religious roles aren't allowed to not be members of the religion they hold a position within. If a king or queen really wanted to convert to Catholicism, they are free to abdicate and renounce their claim to the throne.

Or, parliament could repeal the Act of Settlement, which they themselves created and is the only barrier to a Catholic monarch. The role of the Head of the Church of England is independent from the role of monarch.

No, it is not. The position of Supreme Governor of the Church of England has been tied to that of monarch since the Act of Supremacy (1558). Section 8 of the aforementioned act, which remains in force, invested supreme jurisdiction over the Church of England in the English Crown. Parliament could repeal the Act of Settlement, but that would throw the entire post-1701 succession into doubt and technically make Franz, Duke of Bavaria the rightful King of the United Kingdom. Besides which, much of the monarchy's role as a significant British cultural institution is tied to its Anglican identity.