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Does Islam belong in germany?

No. Islam does not belong in germany.
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Yes. Islam does belong in germany.
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Total votes : 1029

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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:39 pm

The balkens wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:I would do the same and do anything In my power to get it back


I Heard thats going great for the Palestinians.

As long as Israel gets international pressure to set things right, Palestine will be free.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Senegalboy
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Postby Senegalboy » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:39 pm

The balkens wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:I would do the same and do anything In my power to get it back


I Heard thats going great for the Palestinians.

So you would let a person just come into your house and take it

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United Territories and States
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Postby United Territories and States » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:39 pm

Senegalboy wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Of course. I would too if someone just runs up into my house and says it's his/her's.

I would do the same and do anything In my power to get it back


They were swarming by the numbers, fighting them would've been a terrible idea.
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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:40 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The balkens wrote:
I Heard thats going great for the Palestinians.

As long as Israel gets international pressure to set things right, Palestine will be free.


What pressure?

Oh man, the UN is going to say things.

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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:40 pm

Senegalboy wrote:
The balkens wrote:
I Heard thats going great for the Palestinians.

So you would let a person just come into your house and take it


If i own several other houses in the neighborhood, yes.

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Senegalboy
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Postby Senegalboy » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:41 pm

The balkens wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:So you would let a person just come into your house and take it


If i own several other houses in the neighborhood, yes.

If you had only one house

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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:42 pm

Senegalboy wrote:
The balkens wrote:
If i own several other houses in the neighborhood, yes.

If you had only one house


No.

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Stormopolis
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Postby Stormopolis » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:42 pm

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Senegalboy wrote:So you would let a person just come into your house and take it


If i own several other houses in the neighborhood, yes.


Like this?

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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:43 pm

Stormopolis wrote:
The balkens wrote:
If i own several other houses in the neighborhood, yes.


Like this?

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Yep.

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Aelex
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Postby Aelex » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:43 pm

Senegalboy wrote:
The balkens wrote:
I Heard thats going great for the Palestinians.

So you would let a person just come into your house and take it

A more fitting analogy would have been you agreeing to share an house with someone to get the rental only to try to drive him off of it as soon as you got the keys but ending up being the one to be kick off of it as you over-estimated your own power and the weakness of your former housemate.
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United Territories and States
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Postby United Territories and States » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:45 pm

The balkens wrote:
Stormopolis wrote:
Like this?

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Yep.


They could've left.
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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:46 pm

United Territories and States wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Yep.


They could've left.


and go where?

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Postby Senegalboy » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:47 pm

Stormopolis wrote:
The balkens wrote:
If i own several other houses in the neighborhood, yes.


Like this?

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Palestinians need their land everyone has their own land.every people have a land that reflect their culture for you all Arabs are the same but we are different

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United Territories and States
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Postby United Territories and States » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:49 pm

Senegalboy wrote:
Stormopolis wrote:
Like this?

Image

Palestinians need their land everyone has their own land.every people have a land that reflect their culture for you all Arabs are the same but we are different


What's so different about Palestinians and Arabs?
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Senegalboy
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Postby Senegalboy » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:52 pm

United Territories and States wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:Palestinians need their land everyone has their own land.every people have a land that reflect their culture for you all Arabs are the same but we are different


What's so different about Palestinians and Arabs?

Customs and even different dialects I can't understand some Palestinian Arabic and I speak many dialects of Arabic

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United Territories and States
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Postby United Territories and States » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:53 pm

Senegalboy wrote:
United Territories and States wrote:
What's so different about Palestinians and Arabs?

Customs and even different dialects I can't understand some Palestinian Arabic and I speak many dialects of Arabic

They can integrate into any other country.
Please be nice and refer this country as "America", or "United States" when in IC.

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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:54 pm

Stormopolis wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Of course. I would too if someone just runs up into my house and says it's his/her's.


You mean how the world has always treated the Jews? :)

Still waiting for your answers on the Great State of Palestine Quiz, by the way.

Oh, that quiz was to me? Ok, here I go:
1: I believe it was a province of the Osmanli Empire, or at least a region of the Empire.
2: Jordan to the east, Lebanon to the north, Egypt to the southwest, Saudi Arabia's south right?
3: Jerusalem
4: Well, Gaza, is Palestine's largest city, Ramallah is Palestine's admin center, I believe Haifa is a major city.
5: None
6: Palestinian Arabic
7: Al-Islam
8: Currently uses 3: Israeli shekel (why are they using that?), the Jordanian dinar, Egyptian pound.
9: N/A
10: There is such a country of Palestine. Palestine fell when the British invaded and occupied it, then the UN divided Palestinian land to their liking.
11: Because they already had their place and weren't oppressed.
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
I'm a New Afrikan Muslim :) https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality Sister nation of El-Amin Caliphate
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:56 pm

United Territories and States wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:Customs and even different dialects I can't understand some Palestinian Arabic and I speak many dialects of Arabic

They can integrate into any other country.

They still would lose their land. That's Palestine's land. They must have it back.
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
I'm a New Afrikan Muslim :) https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality Sister nation of El-Amin Caliphate
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Senegalboy
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Postby Senegalboy » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:57 pm

United Territories and States wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:Customs and even different dialects I can't understand some Palestinian Arabic and I speak many dialects of Arabic

They can integrate into any other country.

It is their land.they don't want to leave so they stay and they can live in a land of their forfathers

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Postby United Territories and States » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:00 pm

Senegalboy wrote:
United Territories and States wrote:They can integrate into any other country.

It is their land.they don't want to leave so they stay and they can live in a land of their forfathers

There is no point in fighting a losing war/battle.
Please be nice and refer this country as "America", or "United States" when in IC.

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Geilinor
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:01 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:10: There is such a country of Palestine. Palestine fell when the British invaded and occupied it, then the UN divided Palestinian land to their liking.

Palestine was not an independent country before the British. It was part of the Ottoman Empire.
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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:02 pm

Aelex wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:So you would let a person just come into your house and take it

A more fitting analogy would have been you agreeing to share an house with someone to get the rental only to try to drive him off of it as soon as you got the keys but ending up being the one to be kick off of it as you over-estimated your own power and the weakness of your former housemate.

No, it should be like this: Someone goes up to your house, acts like it his and either kicks you out or goes back to his/her house but still has control over yours. A poor person comes in and you or him let him/her in. Once the poor person's better, said rich person (the former poor person) tries to take over your house. The person that invaded and occupied your house decides to give the rich person more control over your own house. You have smaller control.
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
I'm a New Afrikan Muslim :) https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality Sister nation of El-Amin Caliphate
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Aelex
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Postby Aelex » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:02 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Oh, that quiz was to me? Ok, here I go:
1: I believe it was a province of the Osmanli Empire, or at least a region of the Empire.
2: Jordan to the east, Lebanon to the north, Egypt to the southwest, Saudi Arabia's south right?
3: Jerusalem
4: Well, Gaza, is Palestine's largest city, Ramallah is Palestine's admin center, I believe Haifa is a major city.
5: None
6: Palestinian Arabic
7: Al-Islam
8: Currently uses 3: Israeli shekel (why are they using that?), the Jordanian dinar, Egyptian pound.
9: N/A
10: There is such a country of Palestine. Palestine fell when the British invaded and occupied it, then the UN divided Palestinian land to their liking.
11: Because they already had their place and weren't oppressed.

1: Region. Not a country. So, false.
2: Except all of those countries currents borders are the ones the French and British draw so...
3: A nation need to be sovereign to have a capital so false again.
4: Not asking which they are now but which they were historically.
5: You're right on this one. ^^
6: So not a language but a Patois. Not helping your point, mate. :/
7: False. Refer to precents points.
8: Refer to point 4.
10: You're talking about a region. And the british never invaded and occupied it, the Turks handed it over to them.
11: No. It's because they never were part of a nation in the first place.
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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:03 pm

United Territories and States wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:It is their land.they don't want to leave so they stay and they can live in a land of their forfathers

There is no point in fighting a losing war/battle.

Yes there is.
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
I'm a New Afrikan Muslim :) https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality Sister nation of El-Amin Caliphate
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:04 pm

Aelex wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Oh, that quiz was to me? Ok, here I go:
1: I believe it was a province of the Osmanli Empire, or at least a region of the Empire.
2: Jordan to the east, Lebanon to the north, Egypt to the southwest, Saudi Arabia's south right?
3: Jerusalem
4: Well, Gaza, is Palestine's largest city, Ramallah is Palestine's admin center, I believe Haifa is a major city.
5: None
6: Palestinian Arabic
7: Al-Islam
8: Currently uses 3: Israeli shekel (why are they using that?), the Jordanian dinar, Egyptian pound.
9: N/A
10: There is such a country of Palestine. Palestine fell when the British invaded and occupied it, then the UN divided Palestinian land to their liking.
11: Because they already had their place and weren't oppressed.

1: Region. Not a country. So, false.
2: Except all of those countries currents borders are the ones the French and British draw so...
3: A nation need to be sovereign to have a capital so false again.
4: Not asking which they are now but which they were historically.
5: You're right on this one. ^^
6: So not a language but a Patois. Not helping your point, mate. :/
7: False. Refer to precents points.
8: Refer to point 4.
10: You're talking about a region. And the british never invaded and occupied it, the Turks handed it over to them.
11: No. It's because they never were part of a nation in the first place.

Palestinian Arabic is a dialect, not a pidgin/patois.
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
I'm a New Afrikan Muslim :) https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality Sister nation of El-Amin Caliphate
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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