Right-Wing Discussion Thread

[Hillary Clinton 2016-2024]

Slavery and forced conversion were both once cherished traditional values,traditional values is code name for discriminatory practices.

Now THIS is highly disingenuous.
Traditional values acknowledged that, oddly enough, men and women are not the same, and that this is an aspect of reality. Traditional values (in the west) enshrined the rights of humanity. Traditional values prevented Aztecs from killing 50,000 people to pay homage to their god. Traditional values provided the foundational societal structures that enabled western societies to express so many of the freedoms that some folks seem perpetually inclined to take for granted.

Are they flawless? Of course not. Subject to review? Certainly. But 'oh my feelings, you offend me' is rarely a good rationale for anything, and yet that principle forms law in some parts of the west.

Because remember,because to people are different,you treat one better than the other.
Oh and P.S don't be suprised if you see me with more "Because remember"

[The Liberated Territories]

I don't consider myself a right-winger in the narrow sense, but I am forced in that category regardless, despite not caring about traditional rightist ends. In fact I think my goals would achieve more leftist goals than rightist ones, such as reduction of poverty, expansion of civil and political liberties, and greater baseline equality.

[Agritum]

I support Israel for being the only half decent state in the Middle East.

You should support Lebanon then.

Beirut used to be very nice, especially the resorts.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The U.S. was founded by a bunch of deist fedoras.

False. Many of them were Christians.

And many were not, including Thomas Jefferson. One thing that they did all have in common was a realization that this government could not be founded on religious principles, as they'd seen the bloody results of that in Europe.

[Bashriyya]

You should support Lebanon then.

You mean the place where shit like this happens? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Beirut_bombings

Not the Government's fault, Lebanon is the only country in Middle East where Christians have a voice.

[Hurdegaryp]

False. Many of them were Christians.

It's certainly true that they were divided rather evenly between liberal protestants and deists.

Benjamin Franklin was a natural philosopher (the predecessors of our current scientists) with a proclivity for promiscuity. The Founding Fathers actually preferred partying over theological discussions.

[Alyakia]

I don't consider myself a right-winger in the narrow sense, but I am forced in that category regardless, despite not caring about traditional rightist ends. In fact I think my goals would achieve more leftist goals than rightist ones, such as reduction of poverty, expansion of civil and political liberties, and greater baseline equality.

everyone thinks their policies are just the bee's knees

[The Republic of American Freedom]

And who gets to decide what is a historical wrong and what isn't?

the government

Are we going to the moon? FREEDOM TO THE MOON! PLANT OUR FLAG IN IT TILL IT GOES WHITE DUE TO RADIATION (or whatever it was that caused that) AGAIN!

you aren't, they are. islamic state in luna.

And why would you give that power to our ineffective and corrupt government? Do you want to be a slave to the government?

[Jochistan]

Why does the left-leaning poster turning this thread into their own? They have already a left-wing thread.

Because they can't stand the thought of Right-Wingers having their own thread.

I think they're just annoyed at the /pol/ conservatives.

[Asmikland]

Are we going to the moon? FREEDOM TO THE MOON! PLANT OUR FLAG IN IT TILL IT GOES WHITE DUE TO RADIATION (or whatever it was that caused that) AGAIN!

you aren't, they are. islamic state in luna.

Oh damnit. Looks like we gotta go bomb innocent children by accident on the moon, this time.

[Alyakia]

the government



you aren't, they are. islamic state in luna.

And why would you give that power to our ineffective and corrupt government? Do you want to be a slave to the government?

got any better ideas?

[Bashriyya]

You should support Lebanon then.

You mean the place where shit like this happens? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Beirut_bombings

Also stuff like that happens in Israel on a daily basis

[Arlenton]

This is my thread.

No thread ownership in NationStates General bud

Even the right-wing threads don't have private ownership here.

[Agritum]

I don't consider myself a right-winger in the narrow sense, but I am forced in that category regardless, despite not caring about traditional rightist ends. In fact I think my goals would achieve more leftist goals than rightist ones, such as reduction of poverty, expansion of civil and political liberties, and greater baseline equality.

Hey there Liberated Territories.

Equality of Opportunity and not of Outcomes, right? Or is your outlook different?

[Bermon]

Islam is a religion which anyone can convert too, just like Judaism.

The problem in my view is not Islam, the problem is Wahhabism.

Serious Jews don't want you to convert to their religion. I know a guy who attended an orthodox synagogue for six years and they still were discouraging him.

Of the three abrahamic religions, Judaism is the only one that does not actively seek converts.

[The Republic of American Freedom]

And why would you give that power to our ineffective and corrupt government? Do you want to be a slave to the government?

got any better ideas?

How about letting the Free-Market flow and let the people decide who to hire?

[Geilinor]

Slavery and forced conversion were both once cherished traditional values,traditional values is code name for discriminatory practices.

Now THIS is highly disingenuous.
Traditional values acknowledged that, oddly enough, men and women are not the same, and that this is an aspect of reality. Traditional values (in the west) enshrined the rights of humanity.

Western values didn't always enshrine the rights of humanity and many Westerners lived under dictatorship until 1991.

[Neon Trotsky]

Way to stand with Israel, dude.

I support Israel for being the only half decent state in the Middle East.

You know, Turkey really isn't that bad.

[Arlenton]

Because they can't stand the thought of Right-Wingers having their own thread.

I think they're just annoyed at the /pol/ conservatives.

Did a bunch of /pol/ people all come to NS at one point?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Way to stand with Israel, dude.

I support Israel for being the only half decent state in the Middle East.

You just look down on the inhabitants of the nation. Got it. Anti-Semitism combined with support for Israel. You must have a merit badge in knot-tying.

[Jochistan]

I don't consider myself a right-winger in the narrow sense, but I am forced in that category regardless, despite not caring about traditional rightist ends. In fact I think my goals would achieve more leftist goals than rightist ones, such as reduction of poverty, expansion of civil and political liberties, and greater baseline equality.

everyone thinks their policies are just the bee's knees

Including you.

It's not wrong or unnatural to support your own views. In fact. that's sort of what's normal.

[The Republic of American Freedom]

You mean the place where shit like this happens? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Beirut_bombings

Also stuff like that happens in Israel on a daily basis

Because they are attacked by Hamas.

[Bashriyya]

I consider Neo-Cons leftists, why do we allow them on this thread, and why are so many liberals and socialists posting on this thread btw?

As a Conservatives we need to reject Neo-Cons

[Val Halla]

False. Many of them were Christians.

And many were not, including Thomas Jefferson. One thing that they did all have in common was a realization that this government could not be founded on religious principles, as they'd seen the bloody results of that in Europe.

Again, I have to cite the 1st Amendment

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

So Trump's "ban Muslims" thing is not only stupid, but unconstitutional

[Hurdegaryp]

I think they're just annoyed at the /pol/ conservatives.

Did a bunch of /pol/ people all come to NS at one point?

No, they already dwelled among us.