Threats to Family Values

[Conscentia]

Fuck that. Look at Walmart. Christmas stuff was out on Oct. 31st. Passed!

Theorem:
Christmas = Halloween.
Proof:
DECimal 25 = OCTal 31 . QED.

This is why Lovecraftian carols are totally appropriate.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Dude, over here, in August, some stores like Big Lots already had the Christmas section up. Go figure that one.

In the US, Christmas comes earlier each year and my ears are bleeding already from the constant carols I'll be hearing until January. *shivers*

Here is happening the same. Which is rather weird.

The commercial aspect of Christmas... it's all about profit.

[Risottia]

Here is happening the same. Which is rather weird.

The commercial aspect of Christmas... it's all about profit.

Even April 25th (Liberation day) is getting way too commercial for my tastes, but, then again, I'm a notorious commie.

[Vashtanaraada]

Theorem:
Christmas = Halloween.

Proof:
DECimal 25 = OCTal 31 . QED.

Dude, over here, in August, some stores like Big Lots already had the Christmas section up. Go figure that one.

In the US, Christmas comes earlier each year and my ears are bleeding already from the constant carols I'll be hearing until January. *shivers*

My goth girlfriend thinks Halloween basically is Christmas, judging by how she treats it

[Obexer]

I asked OP a question, he's offline, and now the thread is filled with boring people who I agree with. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR A MAN TO FIND SOMEONE TO SHOUT AT OVER THE INTERNET THESE DAYS!?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

The commercial aspect of Christmas... it's all about profit.

Even April 25th (Liberation day) is getting way too commercial for my tastes, but, then again, I'm a notorious commie.

In the US, you would be a threat to our bogus family values and all that silly jazz, you know, daddy and mommy are church people but haven't spared a glance at little Timmy and, since he is gay, they'll probably disown him but they have good family values and what-not.

In other words, you are what this country needs, Riso.

[Vashtanaraada]

I asked OP a question, he's offline, and now the thread is filled with boring people who I agree with. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR A MAN TO FIND SOMEONE TO SHOUT AT OVER THE INTERNET THESE DAYS!?

Calm your shit and deal with time zones and people having lives lol

[Chessmistress]

Family values must be preserved, as the family is the foundation of society. Threats to the family, which have unfortunately been accepted by mainstream society, must be curtailed. The threats which have been most accepted are domestic labor and the nuclear family. There are others, but these are the most subversive, as many others wouldn't exist without these.

The solution to domestic labor is simple. Domestic labor , outside of maintenance and building, should be largely banned. Where childcare isn't a form of domestic labor, it should also be banned.

The nuclear family presents a more difficult dilemma. While the nuclear family threatens traditional values, it can't be banned. The broader conditions of society should be altered to facilitate a return to tradition.

What do you think, NSG? Should family values be preserved? What action should be taken to preserve them?

Precariousness of incomes actively prevents the formation of many families.
Domestic labor is totally unrelated with the issue.
Would you bann even robot vacuum cleaners and washing machines for "the good of family values"?

[Obexer]

I asked OP a question, he's offline, and now the thread is filled with boring people who I agree with. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR A MAN TO FIND SOMEONE TO SHOUT AT OVER THE INTERNET THESE DAYS!?

Calm your shit and deal with time zones and people having lives lol

He started this thread only a few minutes ago...

(I'm Kidding in case people can't tell)

[Yule Kingdom]

So I guess we're done here, then. Good, because I've got a lot of Elves to supervise. Especially the green-suited division. You can't imagine how troublesome they can be. Dammit, I here ornaments breaking in the hallway, better go check it out...

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Unfortunately, thanks to the politicization of the term "family values", the meaning of the term is incredibly vague. Some say that gay marriage is a threat to family values, others say that family values can exist within a socially tolerant society.

But, perhaps, the reality has less to do with politics. Perhaps, family values are just values and customs families should have to keep a stable and strong family unit. If that is the definition we're sticking with, then I'll present an anecdote. My family isn't particularly strong or tight knit. My mom is generally either too stressed or drunk too care sometimes, whereas my dad is only home on the weekends. In my family, there is a lack of cohesion, and subsequently family values are missing. The results of this are rarely positive.

So, if a lack of basic family values tears a family apart, why wouldn't we support family values in a non political context?

[Vashtanaraada]

Family values must be preserved, as the family is the foundation of society. Threats to the family, which have unfortunately been accepted by mainstream society, must be curtailed. The threats which have been most accepted are domestic labor and the nuclear family. There are others, but these are the most subversive, as many others wouldn't exist without these.

The solution to domestic labor is simple. Domestic labor , outside of maintenance and building, should be largely banned. Where childcare isn't a form of domestic labor, it should also be banned.

The nuclear family presents a more difficult dilemma. While the nuclear family threatens traditional values, it can't be banned. The broader conditions of society should be altered to facilitate a return to tradition.

What do you think, NSG? Should family values be preserved? What action should be taken to preserve them?

Precariousness of incomes actively prevents the formation of many families.
Domestic labor is totally unrelated with the issue.
Would you bann even robot vacuum cleaners and washing machines for "the good of family values"?

As a good parent (hypothetically) learning my children to conduct chores properly is way more important than telling them robots will replace them.

[Obexer]

So I guess we're done here, then. Good, because I've got a lot of Elves to supervise. Especially the green-suited division. You can't imagine how troublesome they can be. Dammit, I here ornaments breaking in the hallway, better go check it out...

Can I have a kukri for Christmas? Never mind what I'll be using it for.

[Conscentia]

So I guess we're done here, then. Good, because I've got a lot of Elves to supervise. Especially the green-suited division. You can't imagine how troublesome they can be. Dammit, I here ornaments breaking in the hallway, better go check it out...

Can I have a kukri for Christmas? Never mind what I'll be using it for.

Stabbing Spies?

[New confederate ramenia]

Values that promote the family structures.

Obviously. I mean elaborate more on what these are.

Family values aren't exactly a single specific thing. They're very general. But family values are values of family, that is cultural, social and moral values which promote traditional family structures. And these traditional family structures vary drastically from culture to culture, but generally a family is a group of people who are affiliated by marriage and blood. So family values promote the recognition of family, preservation of structures, and keeping families important and relevant.

[Obexer]

Can I have a kukri for Christmas? Never mind what I'll be using it for.

Stabbing Spies?

That and cutting my sister's hair while she sleeps.

[Chessmistress]

Precariousness of incomes actively prevents the formation of many families.
Domestic labor is totally unrelated with the issue.
Would you bann even robot vacuum cleaners and washing machines for "the good of family values"?

As a good parent (hypothetically) learning my children to conduct chores properly is way more important than telling them robots will replace them.

I don't see the point in teaching a child how to wash using hands, due there's the washing machine.
The same about robot vacuum cleaners. I have two robot vacuum cleaners, and two washing machines. It wouldn't be an emergency nor even if one of the machine would broke.

[Obexer]

Obviously. I mean elaborate more on what these are.

Family values aren't exactly a single specific thing. They're very general.

Then I can't get on board with what you're saying. "Support an abstract concept with potentially contradictory ideals," sounds bad to me.

[The Serbian Empire]

As long as I'm permitted to be the woman in white on my wedding day, I don't think there's a threat to family values.

Stabbing Spies?

That and cutting my sister's hair while she sleeps.

You want my hair?

[Vashtanaraada]

As a good parent (hypothetically) learning my children to conduct chores properly is way more important than telling them robots will replace them.

I don't see the point in teaching a child how to wash using hands, due there's the washing machine.
The same about robot vacuum cleaners. I have two robot vacuum cleaners, and two washing machines. It wouldn't be an emergency nor even if one of the machine would broke.

Well unlike you; many many people aren't graced with the affluent inventions and technology passed to the upper and middle classes of society. My children will likely have to wash their clothes by hand or with a single washing machine if any, and clean their houses with normal vacuum cleaners etc.

In case you feel the need to state you're working class, those two robotic vacuum cleaners and those washing machines probably haven't cost you over a week's pay.

[Gigaverse]

Stabbing Spies?

That and cutting my sister's hair while she sleeps.

That last bit actually sounds kinda cute.

[New confederate ramenia]

"Support an abstract concept with potentially contradictory ideals," sounds bad to me.

Most people support abstract concepts with potentially contradictory ideals.

[Jochistan]

Childcare is a threat to Family values? As is the Nuclear Family? What the fuck?

[Obexer]

That and cutting my sister's hair while she sleeps.

You want my hair?

If you tell mom, I swear to God, snitches get stitches. That's my one and only family value.

[Herrebrugh]

Destroy the family! Cultural Marxism for the win!