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by The Alexanderians » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:13 pm
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
by Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:13 pm
by The Serbian Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:14 pm
The Alexanderians wrote:Kar-Esseria wrote:
Much like school shootings, these cases are far less common than people like you would think, or the media who makes money of these incidents would want people like you to believe.
I concur, things like this only seem to happen more often because the media, you know that thing that tells you what's going on, focuses on it. Things like this and school shootings not only seem like they happen more often but with how they are treated they do in fact become more frequent. Like a self fulfilling prophecy. Some nutjob just has to think "I can go down in history like this!" and bam you've got a shooting. Which in turn generates more attention when the media proclaims "how horrible!"
by The Serbian Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:16 pm
Kar-Esseria wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Well we do have a history of it. Look at the treatment of the Native Americans, Africans, Italians, Poles, Irish, Germans, Japanese, Chinese......
You don't have to tell me about any of that. I know my nations history, including it's darker aspects.
Specifically the Italian, Irish, and German prejudice I imagine my family would know best of. Such prejudices were common when my family first came over here from Europe.
by Gauthier » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:16 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:The Alexanderians wrote:I concur, things like this only seem to happen more often because the media, you know that thing that tells you what's going on, focuses on it. Things like this and school shootings not only seem like they happen more often but with how they are treated they do in fact become more frequent. Like a self fulfilling prophecy. Some nutjob just has to think "I can go down in history like this!" and bam you've got a shooting. Which in turn generates more attention when the media proclaims "how horrible!"
I think it is the product of people resisting arrest in hopes of becoming a martyr as they won't get famous by any other means.
by The Serbian Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:18 pm
by Gauthier » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:21 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:Gauthier wrote:
Oh good. All those blacks killed by police died because they wanted to be famous.
Stay classy.
I'll admit that I am not the classiest gal. But why would they keep resisting arrest if the cops are so trigger happy in the first place? They've got to doing it for some reason.
by Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:21 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:Kar-Esseria wrote:
You don't have to tell me about any of that. I know my nations history, including it's darker aspects.
Specifically the Italian, Irish, and German prejudice I imagine my family would know best of. Such prejudices were common when my family first came over here from Europe.
The anti-German sentiments were strongest during the World Wars.
by Ashmoria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:23 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Are we operating under the assumption that this was a centralized decision on behalf of Black Lives Matter?
by Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:23 pm
Gauthier wrote:The Serbian Empire wrote:I'll admit that I am not the classiest gal. But why would they keep resisting arrest if the cops are so trigger happy in the first place? They've got to doing it for some reason.
Maybe because they want to live like normal American citizens and not have to watch over their shoulders every second like their parents' generation did?
by Eastern Equestria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:23 pm
Kar-Esseria wrote:Eastern Equestria wrote:
Yeah, while this was certainly disgraceful on the part of those specific protestors, I somehow doubt that all members of the BLM movement would act in such a way. And let's not forget that the issues of institutionalized racism and police brutality which spawned BLM are still as prevalent as ever.
Just because the media is paying extra special attention to these specific cases doesn't make it prevalent.
Not to mention, the media doesn't even care if they're actually cases of racism or police brutality, and just like to spin those rumors whenever a black guy is killed by a white cop.
by Gauthier » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:25 pm
by Uxupox » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:26 pm
Gauthier wrote:The Serbian Empire wrote:I'll admit that I am not the classiest gal. But why would they keep resisting arrest if the cops are so trigger happy in the first place? They've got to doing it for some reason.
Maybe because they want to live like normal American citizens and not have to watch over their shoulders every second like their parents' generation did?
by The Serbian Empire » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:26 pm
Gauthier wrote:The Serbian Empire wrote:I'll admit that I am not the classiest gal. But why would they keep resisting arrest if the cops are so trigger happy in the first place? They've got to doing it for some reason.
Maybe because they want to live like normal American citizens and not have to watch over their shoulders every second like their parents' generation did?
by Gauthier » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:27 pm
Uxupox wrote:Gauthier wrote:
Maybe because they want to live like normal American citizens and not have to watch over their shoulders every second like their parents' generation did?
They shouldn't be resisting in the first place unless they are doing something illegal/wrong. I'm a black Latino and every time I've met a police officer I've been courteous and you know what has happened? Absolutely nothing. Amazing I know. Just cooperate with the cop and nothing wrong should happen.
Gauthier wrote:Kar-Esseria wrote:
Except they don't have to do that, and resisting arrest only makes things worse.
Like how Samuel DuBose resisted arrest, right?
by Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:28 pm
Gauthier wrote:Kar-Esseria wrote:
Except they don't have to do that, and resisting arrest only makes things worse.
Like how Samuel DuBose resisted arrest, right?
by Gauthier » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:31 pm
by Havenburgh » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:32 pm
by Geilinor » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:33 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Well? Freedom of Speech and Expression does give you the ability to say things like that.
The people chanting it don't care and want the attention. The organizers probably think it will get them them noticed and obviously it did simply because we are here discussing it.
I have distanced myself from the BLM arguments as I knew the Hayward cop who was murdered recently.
by Alyakia » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:33 pm
by Uxupox » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:33 pm
Gauthier wrote:Uxupox wrote:
They shouldn't be resisting in the first place unless they are doing something illegal/wrong. I'm a black Latino and every time I've met a police officer I've been courteous and you know what has happened? Absolutely nothing. Amazing I know. Just cooperate with the cop and nothing wrong should happen.
by Benuty » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:35 pm
by Kar-Esseria » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:35 pm
Gauthier wrote:So in other words all blacks, even if they happen to be outstanding model citizens, need to surrender and lay down like an apprehended hardcore criminal before police lest they be shot and said to have had it coming. Wonderful.
by The balkens » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:36 pm
Kar-Esseria wrote:Gauthier wrote:So in other words all blacks, even if they happen to be outstanding model citizens, need to surrender and lay down like an apprehended hardcore criminal before police lest they be shot and said to have had it coming. Wonderful.
No.
All PEOPLE, even if they happen to be outstanding model citizens, need to surrender and law down unless the arresting officer is violating their rights.
Samuel DuBose was attempting to flee the scene, resisting arrest in the process. This did not warrant a shooting, but it also doesn't warrant defending his attempt to flee and resist arrest.
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