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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:00 pm

I was always curious and could never get a straight definition to OCD.
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Postby Floydian Britain » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:00 pm

I've had depression sense I was a preteen. Back then, I resembled a bitter old man more than a 13 year old boy.

I was and still am a huge misanthrope and pessimist, which contributes a lot to the depression. But even so, I still remain that way. I feel like this is the most realistic view of the world and if I were stop being that way, I would become a delusional fool.

Not that I'm saying I'm not already a fool. Just a much bigger fool. My depression has gotten slightly better sense then.
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Postby Aalmark » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:01 pm

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:
Transyl wrote:Ahem...I have 4 mental illnesses, they're not awful and you can't really pretend to have a mental illness. They're actually serious and can lead to a sad, suffering life.


Yes they are and yes you can and I have feeling you're pretending to have "4 mental illnesses" right now.


On the internet, it's a fact that many people, especially tumblrites, bullshit the number of illnesses they have. However, I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions in this instance. If it means anything, I'm always very skeptical of self diagnoses, fairly conservative, and against all special snowflakes, etc. Yet, as someone who has likely suffered from plenty of mental illnesses, I can guarantee that calling someone on the internet "a pretender" without any base is rather rude and perhaps untrue.

Also, Transyl, I suffered from anorexia, which was probably spurred from my coke addiction and OCD. I dunno if you're still suffering from it, but if so, feel free to tg me.
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Postby The Germanian states » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:01 pm

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Postby Jute » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:01 pm

Transyl wrote:
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Mental illnesses are awful. Don't pretend you have one just because you want to be a special snowflake.

Ahem...I have 4 mental illnesses, they're not awful and you can't really pretend to have a mental illness. They're actually serious and can lead to a sad, suffering life.

I think what they meant is they're awful to have and how some people either claim to have one to get attention or to get away with something.
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Postby Karinovia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:02 pm

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:Mental illnesses are awful. Don't pretend you have one just because you want to be a special snowflake.


Yes! I agree. It is just so wrong when people gloat over their self-diagnosed mental illness in order to get some pity points. I suffered with depression and social anxiety disorder throughout high school, college, and still trying to manage it as best as I could. My panic attacks are dreadful that I believe I might die. I wake up covered in sweat thinking something bad is going to happen I don't go around telling everyone about the internal issues I face on a daily basis. I know everyone has anxiety, but dealing with anxiety from the minute I wake up for the rest of the day makes me feel so powerless and hopeless.

Also, what drives me crazy is when people throw around "bipolar" as a way to describe someone who is emotional or even the weather. Someone so close to me has bipolar disorder and it is a struggle in their lives and mine.

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Postby Transyl » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:03 pm

United RussoAsia wrote:I was always curious and could never get a straight definition to OCD.

Well I found a good definition, and listed it. I think it's pretty decent.
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Postby The Central Shadow Nation » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:03 pm

I have aspergers,social anxiety,and mostly A.D.H.D.
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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:04 pm

Transyl wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:I was always curious and could never get a straight definition to OCD.

Well I found a good definition, and listed it. I think it's pretty decent.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:04 pm

Quick note for Transyl: "Panic disorders" is misspelled "pain disorders". Thought I'd bring that to your attention.
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Postby Jute » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:04 pm

The Germanian states wrote:Pasta makes you feel better

Unless you have Celiac and don't know it. Then the later ensuing hours in the bathroom can make you question your will to life :P
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Postby Dominated Earth » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:04 pm

Looks like Social Anxiety is quite a bit more common than I thought. Interesting.
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Postby Transyl » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:05 pm

The Central Shadow Nation wrote:I have aspergers,social anxiety,and mostly A.D.H.D.

Social anxiety, and any anxiety, is tough to deal with. It's always nice to receive therapy and such, but sometimes even that doesn't help completely. Medication, well that still doesn't cure it, nothing can cure it, you can only manage the symptoms.

Kaboomlandia wrote:Quick note for Transyl: "Panic disorders" is misspelled "pain disorders". Thought I'd bring that to your attention.

Ah..I'll fix that soon.

Dominated Earth wrote:Looks like Social Anxiety is quite a bit more common than I thought. Interesting.

Yea, it's pretty common.
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Postby Apple-Loosa » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:05 pm

http://www.recoveryranch.com/articles/m ... epression/

It has been shown and proven that disability leads to depression. When someone becomes ostracised because of having/inheriting a disability, it can release a sense of dislike to their own-self and is the door-opener to most of the mental illnesses listed here.

I can provide a example of myself, whilst it was more of a mental disability then a physical disability, It still lead me down a path of depression and anxiety. I was born with developmental verbal dyspraxia. Nothing was wrong with my nerves nor muscles, yet I could not properly sequence sounds for a long while of my childhood. This lead to me to become depressed as I was mocked at school for it. I could think fine and straight, yet somehow no-one understood me. I went from being quite enthusiastic to mute, scared to even try speaking. I had been diagnosed with Anxiety (Specifically social anxiety disorder) and it was then when my parents helped pull me out of the dark well. They helped me learn how to speak, and even provided me special "speech therapy" to help me outgrow the verbal dyspraxia. Today I live a happier life, free from anxiety and the dyspraxia.

So there's my story with mental illnesses. What do you people think? Does disability lead to depression?

(How about you add Alzheimer's disease/Dementia to the list?)

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Postby Transyl » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:06 pm

Apple-Loosa wrote:http://www.recoveryranch.com/articles/mental-health-articles/when-disability-leads-to-depression/

It has been shown and proven that disability leads to depression. When someone becomes ostracised because of having/inheriting a disability, it can release a sense of dislike to their own-self and is the door-opener to most of the mental illnesses listed here.

I can provide a example of myself, whilst it was more of a mental disability then a physical disability, It still lead me down a path of depression and anxiety. I was born with developmental verbal dyspraxia. Nothing was wrong with my nerves nor muscles, yet I could not properly sequence sounds for a long while of my childhood. This lead to me to become depressed as I was mocked at school for it. I could think fine and straight, yet somehow no-one understood me. I went from being quite enthusiastic to mute, scared to even try speaking. I had been diagnosed with Anxiety (Specifically social anxiety disorder) and it was then when my parents helped pull me out of the dark well. They helped me learn how to speak, and even provided me special "speech therapy" to help me outgrow the verbal dyspraxia. Today I live a happier life, free from anxiety and the dyspraxia.

So there's my story with mental illnesses. What do you people think? Does disability lead to depression?

(How about you add Alzheimer's disease/Dementia to the list?)

I will add those as soon as possible.
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Postby Kumuri » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:07 pm

I see a lot of people badgering those with multiple mental problems as being "special snowflakes" or "pretending"

The thing is, a lot of these are often comorbid. They tend to go together. Depression, anxiety, eating disorders, and mild forms of autism make a lovely little package. The mild form of autism leads to bullying and ostracism. The bullying and ostracism leads the person to wonder what the hell is "wrong" with them, and may lead to eating disorders. These things lead to depression and anxiety because social interaction is very important for most people and being cut off from that is like being an arakkoa without the sky.

So it makes sense to have "4 mental illnesses."
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Postby Apple-Loosa » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:08 pm

Transyl wrote:I will add those as soon as possible.

Thanks. ^^

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Postby United RussoAsia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:08 pm

Apple-Loosa wrote:http://www.recoveryranch.com/articles/mental-health-articles/when-disability-leads-to-depression/

It has been shown and proven that disability leads to depression. When someone becomes ostracised because of having/inheriting a disability, it can release a sense of dislike to their own-self and is the door-opener to most of the mental illnesses listed here.

I can provide a example of myself, whilst it was more of a mental disability then a physical disability, It still lead me down a path of depression and anxiety. I was born with developmental verbal dyspraxia. Nothing was wrong with my nerves nor muscles, yet I could not properly sequence sounds for a long while of my childhood. This lead to me to become depressed as I was mocked at school for it. I could think fine and straight, yet somehow no-one understood me. I went from being quite enthusiastic to mute, scared to even try speaking. I had been diagnosed with Anxiety (Specifically social anxiety disorder) and it was then when my parents helped pull me out of the dark well. They helped me learn how to speak, and even provided me special "speech therapy" to help me outgrow the verbal dyspraxia. Today I live a happier life, free from anxiety and the dyspraxia.

So there's my story with mental illnesses. What do you people think? Does disability lead to depression?

(How about you add Alzheimer's disease/Dementia to the list?)


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When I was younger, my illnesses (stated on the first page) caused my depression. Now, as most of my illnesses are gone entirely or barely noticeable, I have lost the depression as well.
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Postby Dominated Earth » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:09 pm

Apple-Loosa wrote:http://www.recoveryranch.com/articles/mental-health-articles/when-disability-leads-to-depression/

It has been shown and proven that disability leads to depression. When someone becomes ostracised because of having/inheriting a disability, it can release a sense of dislike to their own-self and is the door-opener to most of the mental illnesses listed here.

I can provide a example of myself, whilst it was more of a mental disability then a physical disability, It still lead me down a path of depression and anxiety. I was born with developmental verbal dyspraxia. Nothing was wrong with my nerves nor muscles, yet I could not properly sequence sounds for a long while of my childhood. This lead to me to become depressed as I was mocked at school for it. I could think fine and straight, yet somehow no-one understood me. I went from being quite enthusiastic to mute, scared to even try speaking. I had been diagnosed with Anxiety (Specifically social anxiety disorder) and it was then when my parents helped pull me out of the dark well. They helped me learn how to speak, and even provided me special "speech therapy" to help me outgrow the verbal dyspraxia. Today I live a happier life, free from anxiety and the dyspraxia.

So there's my story with mental illnesses. What do you people think? Does disability lead to depression?

(How about you add Alzheimer's disease/Dementia to the list?)


It can. If it hinders your every day life then yes. There doesn't even have to be any outside cause for depression even, it just happens.
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Postby Xanama » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:11 pm

I'm a sociopath. But in all seriousness, I get depressed alot, thought about taking my own life on a daily basis and attempted, Then my adhd and add...

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Postby Transyl » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:12 pm

Xanama wrote:I'm a sociopath. But in all seriousness, I get depressed alot, thought about taking my own life on a daily basis and attempted, Then my adhd and add...

Depression can be highly life threatening, it may not seem severe, but everything is not as it seems.
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Postby Xanama » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:14 pm

Transyl wrote:
Xanama wrote:I'm a sociopath. But in all seriousness, I get depressed alot, thought about taking my own life on a daily basis and attempted, Then my adhd and add...

Depression can be highly life threatening, it may not seem severe, but everything is not as it seems.

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Postby Aalmark » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:14 pm

Xanama wrote:I'm a sociopath. But in all seriousness, I get depressed alot, thought about taking my own life on a daily basis and attempted, Then my adhd and add...


As someone who has been on that boat, and admittedly still suffers from depression, I can assure you that life will get better, especially if you persevere. I don't know how young you are, but my life improved infinitely once I grew older, etc. Even when people contemplate suicide, I cringe a little. On multiple occasions, I've attempted suicide. I first tried when I was really quite young, and was reluctant. I drank some windex, and I ended up shitting blue for a couple of days. It was my last and final try that really almost killed me, and that made me reevaluate my entire life. Since then, I've gotten help, have become involved in the community, and try to spend my free time in internet cafes and libraries, where I can socialize and drink coffee, as opposed to my depressing apartment. I can say with confidence that suicide is not the answer. It's a cliched thing to say, but the truthfulness of it is apparent to me.
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Postby Transyl » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:15 pm

Xanama wrote:So much my mind warps reality sometimes, I hallucinate

Well, just know that there are people out there who can help you, as well as medication. But, even that can only help so much.
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Postby Aidannadia » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:18 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:OCD. Have people noticed that it seems to get confused with perfectionism sometimes? If things aren't perfectly straight and aligned, people will say "Oh, my OCD's acting up), but really it's just inherent perfectionism

This. This is so right and it bothers me a lot. I have certain things that I like to happen, like I always walk on the right side of a hallway, or go through the right door as well as can't stand not to push my chair in and, additionally, I rather dislike public displays of affection like hugging most of the time and people always say "Are you like OCD or something?"

The ignorance pisses me off. In order for it to be OCD, it would need to be maladaptive and/or socially unacceptable, but in general this doesn't impede my general ability to live life. OCD would be if I had to go through the right door 3 times or I would have to go through the right door 5 times a day or something.

This also ties in with people who say "Well, everyone feels sad sometimes." or the "Well, I'm shy sometimes too." It's amazing to me the inability of people to understand someone without experiencing the what they go through themselves.
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