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Postby Neutraligon » Fri May 29, 2015 9:08 pm

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Really, he certainly became a leader for a specific crowd. And how is it any more insulting then the claims you have made? Jesse Jackson was making a claim about a specific group in a specific situation where they were indeed acting like an occupying force.


Maybe. but that is kinda their job. plus they were taking orders from a black mayor right? I mean, 99% well 95% of this "occupying force" is made up of people willing to put on a uniform that already makes them a target and go try and protect the some of the very people who now see them all as only racists and thugs. Perhaps calling them an occupying force, doesn't necessarily incite violence, but it certainly seems to give some cover to anyone who wants riot and harm cops to later claim inspiration from it.
Besides, Jesse Jackson and Sharpton have zero credibility if anyone is actually listening to these morons, well maybe heavy handed policing really is needed.


It s their job to act like an occupying force? No that is the job of the army. Unfortunately when the people in the city have been on the recieving end of shit for decades and nothing they did made any changes kinda goes to support the claim. Most things people say can be used to justify almost anything. It still does not support the claim that African American leaders are significantly different from Caucasian leaders.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:08 pm

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For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.

My last comment is with a democrat black mayor black DA black police chef democrat governor democrat senators tell me how the "instutional racism" is still a huge probelm

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at-the ... ay-of-life

http://policebrutalityagainstblackmen.blogspot.com/ (Blog, but has videos and sources on it.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/0 ... 21104.html
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:08 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:And should not be ignored.

That's my point here. Not only do I dislike pacifism, Gandhi had a lot of bad aspects. Like, a lot. Like, really bad ones. Not mildly contentious. Like, disgusting, and terrible.


Pacifism should not be a means to a political end, but the end itself. It should also be a personal conviction, not a set of rules. This is basically where Gandhi's pacifism differs from mine.

Anyway, please swerve back on topic. The topic here is O'Reilly and his outright lies regarding his position on the Syrian Civil War.

Oh yeah that that was bad
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:09 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:And should not be ignored.

That's my point here. Not only do I dislike pacifism, Gandhi had a lot of bad aspects. Like, a lot. Like, really bad ones. Not mildly contentious. Like, disgusting, and terrible.

You despise pacifism... Do U want a civil war before every descion that way no one loses jesus man

Good God, could you stop fucking putting words in my mouth? Like, right fucking now? Stop?
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:10 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:My last comment is with a democrat black mayor black DA black police chef democrat governor democrat senators tell me how the "instutional racism" is still a huge probelm

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at-the ... ay-of-life

http://policebrutalityagainstblackmen.blogspot.com/ (Blog, but has videos and sources on it.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/0 ... 21104.html

If the institutional racism is as present as claimed why did the black and left wing only government not fix it if you guys seem to have the answers
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:10 pm

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Osterreich-Bayern wrote:You despise pacifism... Do U want a civil war before every descion that way no one loses jesus man

Good God, could you stop fucking putting words in my mouth? Like, right fucking now? Stop?

I hit quote relax if u think I put words in UR mouth which I did to show a hyperbole everyone saw it
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Postby Ny Nynorsk » Fri May 29, 2015 9:11 pm

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Yeah, but no one goes around saying Fuck Lincoln either. Thats all. Not saying you can't just that you ought not.


For all the good the Lincoln did, his own ideology when it came to race was disgusting.


He was a Wasp living in 1865. To expect him to be a racial progressive is like expecting Camden to be America's top city.
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Postby Urran » Fri May 29, 2015 9:11 pm

I can't bring myself to take him seriously. He's not an accurate representation of the right and does his chosen party a great disservice. It's a stretch but I'd even go so far as to say he doesn't accurately represent Fox News. He's not a real journalist, he's an opinionated bully and bigot that is under the delusion that he has "arrived" and surpassed the rest of the human race as a hyperintelligent being....like the majority of my professors but still.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:11 pm

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If the institutional racism is as present as claimed why did the black and left wing only government not fix it if you guys seem to have the answers

are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri May 29, 2015 9:11 pm

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Meh, product of his time. Relative to many people heck most people, he was pretty darn progressive.

White separatism isn't better than "civilize the black man" imo.


Not exactly sure what that's supposed to mean. Apparently people throughout history have to be saints to avoid having you put their name and fuck in the same clause.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:12 pm

Osterreich-Bayern wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Good God, could you stop fucking putting words in my mouth? Like, right fucking now? Stop?

I hit quote relax if u think I put words in UR mouth which I did to show a hyperbole everyone saw it

You're deliberately misrepresenting my argument. Stop.
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:12 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:If the institutional racism is as present as claimed why did the black and left wing only government not fix it if you guys seem to have the answers

are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?

Rome wasn't built in a day but al Qaeda was in decline after 9-11 not growing like is apparently happening here
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:12 pm

Llamalandia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:White separatism isn't better than "civilize the black man" imo.


Not exactly sure what that's supposed to mean. Apparently people throughout history have to be saints to avoid having you put their name and fuck in the same clause.

No, but hardline racism and pedophilia tend to turn me off of people.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:13 pm

Osterreich-Bayern wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?

Rome wasn't built in a day but al Qaeda was in decline after 9-11 not growing like is apparently happening here

Institutional racism is in decline as well. Woohoo. Now, your point?
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri May 29, 2015 9:14 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:If the institutional racism is as present as claimed why did the black and left wing only government not fix it if you guys seem to have the answers

are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?


Umm, because Bush didn't have control over Al Quaeda and other terrorist groups? The Mayor of Baltimore and the the rest of the Democratic politicians running both the city adn state, certainly had control over the institutions of govt though. Had they wanted to root out institutional racism they could have. They certainly had the power to do so.

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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:14 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:Rome wasn't built in a day but al Qaeda was in decline after 9-11 not growing like is apparently happening here

Institutional racism is in decline as well. Woohoo. Now, your point?

If it's in decline why all of sudden are there a million 9-11s (for sake of compassion to the metaphor I see the difference)
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Postby Cannabis Islands » Fri May 29, 2015 9:15 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:If the institutional racism is as present as claimed why did the black and left wing only government not fix it if you guys seem to have the answers

are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?


And I can say for sure if Iraq was still under Baathist control, there would no ISIS. Not saying that Saddam was not an asshole, he was but it was better than what we have now.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:16 pm

Osterreich-Bayern wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Institutional racism is in decline as well. Woohoo. Now, your point?

If it's in decline why all of sudden are there a million 9-11s (for sake of compassion to the metaphor I see the difference)

good fucking god

are you even reading what you're typing
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:16 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?


And I can say for sure if Iraq was still under Baathist control, there would no ISIS. Not saying that Saddam was not an asshole, he was but it was better than what we have now.

Yeah. America created its terrorists.
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:16 pm

Cannabis Islands wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?


And I can say for sure if Iraq was still under Baathist control, there would no ISIS. Not saying that Saddam was not an asshole, he was but it was better than what we have now.

Bush would agree to that that's heinsight bias no one for saw isis which formation is not squarely bush's fault anyway but we have a different thread for that
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Postby Urran » Fri May 29, 2015 9:16 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:If the institutional racism is as present as claimed why did the black and left wing only government not fix it if you guys seem to have the answers

are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?


A bit off topic, but are you arguing that terrorism is NOT present?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:17 pm

Urran wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:are you fucking kidding me

If terrorism is present, why didn't Bush's GOP government get rid of it since you guys had all the answers?


A bit off topic, but are you arguing that terrorism is NOT present?

I'm providing a comparison to his ridiculous statement.
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Postby Osterreich-Bayern » Fri May 29, 2015 9:17 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Osterreich-Bayern wrote:If it's in decline why all of sudden are there a million 9-11s (for sake of compassion to the metaphor I see the difference)

good fucking god

are you even reading what you're typing

I clearly said in order to keep comparison to the metaphor if you really want me to type out "major events that show the issue in media spotlight and personal and private damage to lives and prosperity i can"
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri May 29, 2015 9:19 pm

Osterreich-Bayern wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:good fucking god

are you even reading what you're typing

I clearly said in order to keep comparison to the metaphor if you really want me to type out "major events that show the issue in media spotlight and personal and private damage to lives and prosperity i can"

Okay then.

It isn't all of a sudden. Minorities are finally gaining a voice and standing up for themselves. Ever heard of the Watts Riots? Rodney King? Same shit. The times are a-changing, we're fighting back against an existent system.
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri May 29, 2015 9:19 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
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And I can say for sure if Iraq was still under Baathist control, there would no ISIS. Not saying that Saddam was not an asshole, he was but it was better than what we have now.

Yeah. America created its terrorists.


Umm, wait what? Tell that to the victims of 911. Perhaps you can explain how they as americans "little eichmans" to quote prof churchill are responsible for making people murder them.

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