Monarchism

[Conscentia]

The federal council is not a monarchy.

i was joking.

[Conscentia]

Why wouldn't it?

... cultural and political realities?

Switzerland is multicultural, and the entire point is to alter the political reality.

[Distruzio]

... cultural and political realities?

Switzerland is multicultural, and the entire point is to alter the political reality.

Why couldn't we argue the opposite direction? That the Swiss Confederation become a monarchy on the same basis?

[Vazdaria]

i was joking.

[Conscentia]

Switzerland is multicultural, and the entire point is to alter the political reality.

Why couldn't we argue the opposite direction? That the Swiss Confederation become a monarchy on the same basis?

You could, but why would you?

[Distruzio]

Why couldn't we argue the opposite direction? That the Swiss Confederation become a monarchy on the same basis?

You could, but why would you?

Indeed. Why would you?

[Old Tyrannia]

Monarchies have withstood the test of time.

So has the Swiss confederacy.

The Swiss Confederation and the United Kingdom developed in very different geopolitical and cultural contexts. You couldn't just take the political system of one and drop it into the other willy-nilly, and expect it to function.

There is literally zero good argument for a monarchy in this day and age, I want our royal family out.

And I want to be a billionaire with an earldom, a chateau in France and a Mercedes Benz. We don't always get the things we want in life.

As far as good arguments for monarchy go, I suppose "good" is fairly subjective, but from my subjective viewpoint there have been far more good arguments for monarchy in this thread than for republicanism.

[Conscentia]

So has the Swiss confederacy.

The Swiss Confederation and the United Kingdom developed in very different geopolitical and cultural contexts. You couldn't just take the political system of one and drop it into the other willy-nilly, and expect it to function.

I've been to Switzerland. Seemed the same, only the people spoke another language, they had a convenient tram network, and the scenery was better.

[Distruzio]

The Swiss Confederation and the United Kingdom developed in very different geopolitical and cultural contexts. You couldn't just take the political system of one and drop it into the other willy-nilly, and expect it to function.

I've been to Switzerland. Seemed the same, only the people spoke another language, they had a convenient tram network, and the scenery was better.

Culture and geopolitics =/= the tram and scenery.

[Conscentia]

I've been to Switzerland. Seemed the same, only the people spoke another language, they had a convenient tram network, and the scenery was better.

Culture and geopolitics =/= the tram and scenery.

Conveniently enough, the things I didn't mention I said "seemed the same".

[Leritorius]

As far as good arguments for monarchy go, I suppose "good" is fairly subjective, but from my subjective viewpoint there have been far more good arguments for monarchy in this thread than for republicanism.

Is there a good argument for republicanism in this thread ?

[Benuty]

i was joking.

Zoidberg is hardly relevant to the Ministry of Humor.

[Kelinfort]

Monarchy only as symbol. No real power to the monarch.

[Conserative Morality]

Has history shewn that political innovations without consideration for cultural realities result in anything other than tragedy?

Shewn? This is getting awfully Lovecraftian up in here.

But yes. Innovation without concern for culture results in turmoil, but turmoil is not inherently tragic.

[Conserative Morality]

Is there a good argument for republicanism in this thread ?

From the position of an individual who feels that the basis upon which modern Western civilization is founded upon is faulty? No, probably not.

For the rest of us, though?

[Old Tyrannia]

As far as good arguments for monarchy go, I suppose "good" is fairly subjective, but from my subjective viewpoint there have been far more good arguments for monarchy in this thread than for republicanism.

Is there a good argument for republicanism in this thread ?

I think that the accountability argument is a fairly good argument against absolute monarchy, at least. It's considerably weaker against any form of limited monarchy, though.

[Leritorius]

Is there a good argument for republicanism in this thread ?

From the position of an individual who feels that the basis upon which modern Western civilization is founded upon is faulty? No, probably not.

Knowing that your base was an idea launched in the 16th century, and that our "western civilization" was launched well before that... and knowing that this basis is actually faulty...

...and knowing that I'm still waiting for a good argument in favor of republicanism...

[Conscentia]

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Zoidberg is hardly relevant to the Ministry of Humor.

What does that have to do with anything?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Zoidberg is hardly relevant to the Ministry of Humor.

What about the Ministry of Silly Walks?

[Nordengrund]

I'm more or less indifferent. I have seen good arguments for both sides. Neither one is better than the other all the time.

It would make sense for a republic to better in some countries and monarchy in others.

[Benuty]

Zoidberg is hardly relevant to the Ministry of Humor.

What does that have to do with anything?

[Conserative Morality]

Knowing that your base was an idea launched in the 16th century, and that our "western civilization" was launched well before that...

There's a reason that the 16th century onwards is called the 'modern' era. We don't deny women equality anymore either.

and knowing that this basis is actually faulty...

Go on, do tell.

[Leritorius]

Knowing that your base was an idea launched in the 16th century, and that our "western civilization" was launched well before that...

There's a reason that the 16th century onwards is called the 'modern' era. We don't deny women equality anymore either.

and knowing that this basis is actually faulty...

Go on, do tell.

If 'modernity' means 'mandatory thinking and ostracization of the rejective subject', then fuck your modernity. And what's the fucking point of this with the whole remainder of the argumentation ?
And if you do truly believe that the western world is really living under this basis, then you've got both your thumbs up your eyes...
After all, if we do truly run this circus of a world, then why is there a mandatory thinking process going on ? Why do all people apply said system ? Why are all the medias telling the same goddamn lies to the face of the western world ? Why the western world leaders do always follow the same path when on war with the east ?
And most importantly : why don't they follow their people's wishes, if they truly run the world ?


Please reply with intelligent arguments instead of throwing pre-made sentences at me. You're worth better than lies and words without a meaning...

[Conserative Morality]

If 'modernity' means 'mandatory thinking and ostracization of the rejective subject', then fuck your modernity. And what's the fucking point of this with the whole remainder of the argumentation ?
And if you do truly believe that the western world is really living under this basis, then you've got both your thumbs up your eyes...
After all, if we do truly run this circus of a world, then why is there a mandatory thinking process going on ? Why do all people apply said system ? Why are all the medias telling the same goddamn lies to the face of the western world ? Why the western world leaders do always follow the same path when on war with the east ?
And most importantly : why don't they follow their people's wishes, if they truly run the world ?


Please reply with intelligent arguments instead of throwing pre-made sentences at me. You're worth better than lies and words without a meaning...

What on earth are you talking about? I don't mean this entirely as an empty phrase; I legitimately don't know what you're arguing here.

[Conscentia]

What does that have to do with anything?

Again, what?