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Who would you vote for?

Labour
342
20%
Conservatives
346
20%
Ukip
394
23%
Greens
246
14%
Liberal Democrats
149
9%
SNP
77
5%
Plaid Cymru
32
2%
Respect
35
2%
Other (please state)
79
5%
 
Total votes : 1700

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Arglorand
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Founded: Jan 08, 2013
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:05 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Britanno wrote:Not really. 5 seats at best.


Hey, that's like 500% more than when they just started out, so.

0 times 5 (or 500% of 0, if you will) is still not 5, mate.
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Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Sebastianbourg
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Posts: 5717
Founded: Apr 06, 2013
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:06 pm

Eireann Nua wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:I didn't say Northern Ireland just to assert the UK's sovereignty over that region in the north of the island of Ireland; saying north of Ireland and northern Ireland are exactly the same thing! :)


Not in the real world they're not.

Let's not hijack the thread with an argument which will lead us nowhere.

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Martean
Minister
 
Posts: 2017
Founded: Aug 08, 2012
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Postby Martean » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:06 pm

Arglorand wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Hey, that's like 500% more than when they just started out, so.

0 times 5 (or 500% of 0, if you will) is still not 5, mate.


but 5 times 1 it's 5 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29549414
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Pro: Democracy, Nationalized economy, socialism, LGTB Rights, Free Speech, Atheism, Inmigration, Direct Democracy
Anti: Dictatorship, Fascism, Social-democracy, Social Liberalism, Neoliberalism, Nationalism, Racism, Xenophobia, Homophobia.
''When you have an imaginary friend, you're crazy, but when many people have the same imaginary friend, it's called religion''

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:07 pm

Martean wrote:
Arglorand wrote:0 times 5 (or 500% of 0, if you will) is still not 5, mate.


but 5 times 1 it's 5 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29549414

I know. I was building on the assumption that "when they just started out" meant an earlier point than just recently.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Lerodan Chinamerica
Minister
 
Posts: 3252
Founded: Dec 31, 2012
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:07 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Nope.


How so? It's a logical and economical application of the principle of equality under the law.

The lower income spend a greater percentage on necessities.

Yes, which is why they shouldn't be taxed.

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The Jasminia Islands
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Posts: 437
Founded: May 10, 2014
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Postby The Jasminia Islands » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:08 pm

Well I'll only be 16 in May so I won't get to vote but I'll be wearing a Green Party badge during the campaign and might even do a bit of leafleting. Economically, I'd say I'm closer to the Liberal Democrats and before 2010, I supported them but the way they've let the Tories walk over them makes me question their strength and integrity. I support the Greens in pretty much every policies (except some of its economical policies and the issue of the monarchy) and I think it's time to pull the centre ground back towards the left.
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Dejanic
Senator
 
Posts: 4677
Founded: Nov 20, 2012
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Postby Dejanic » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:09 pm

Martean wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Why don't you go ahead and read their programme? Here, have a look.

And it's *immigration. Two m's. No n. Just a heads up, since you seem to have been doing that a lot.


Basically, what the big 'leftist' party in my country says. If this is your alternative, I'm happy of being Spanish, for the first time in years :D

ANYTING DAT ISNT COMUNIST IS NEOLIEBRAL111
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Master Shake wrote:multicultural loving imbecile.

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Martean
Minister
 
Posts: 2017
Founded: Aug 08, 2012
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Postby Martean » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:09 pm

Arglorand wrote:

I know. I was building on the assumption that "when they just started out" meant an earlier point than just recently.


Ok, I have to admit you're right xD
Compass:
Left/Right: -9.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03
Spanish, communist
Pro: Democracy, Nationalized economy, socialism, LGTB Rights, Free Speech, Atheism, Inmigration, Direct Democracy
Anti: Dictatorship, Fascism, Social-democracy, Social Liberalism, Neoliberalism, Nationalism, Racism, Xenophobia, Homophobia.
''When you have an imaginary friend, you're crazy, but when many people have the same imaginary friend, it's called religion''

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Sebastianbourg
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Posts: 5717
Founded: Apr 06, 2013
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:09 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Arglorand wrote:The Plantagenet Party.

Do it.


I know a monarchist who'd agree. That's 2 out of a hundred signatures down (I think it's 100 to form a new political party). Steal all of UKIP's support (and thus save the UK from Nigel Fascisti) and continue the Great British tradition of invading France once every century.

But we did that two times last century!

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Britanno
Minister
 
Posts: 2992
Founded: Apr 05, 2013
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Postby Britanno » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:09 pm

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Well, it seems like we already are. £10 billion a year goes towards propping up dictatorships and encouraging economic mismanagement in Third World countries.

I'm not saying foreign aid is currently working well, but it shows that foreign aid needs to be reformed, not scrapped.
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Pro: marriage equality, polygamy, abortion up to viability, UK Lib Dems, US Democrats
Anti: discrimination, euroscepticism, UKIP, immigrant bashing, UK Labour, US Republicans
British Home Counties wrote:
Alyakia wrote:our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed
America is doing fine atm

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Britanno
Minister
 
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Founded: Apr 05, 2013
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Postby Britanno » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:10 pm

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:At the end of the day, commerce and markets are the best means of bringing people out of poverty.

Have you ever read An Inspector Calls?
NSGS Liberal Democrats - The Centrist Alternative
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Pro: marriage equality, polygamy, abortion up to viability, UK Lib Dems, US Democrats
Anti: discrimination, euroscepticism, UKIP, immigrant bashing, UK Labour, US Republicans
British Home Counties wrote:
Alyakia wrote:our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed
America is doing fine atm

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Martean
Minister
 
Posts: 2017
Founded: Aug 08, 2012
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Postby Martean » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:11 pm

Dejanic wrote:
Martean wrote:
Basically, what the big 'leftist' party in my country says. If this is your alternative, I'm happy of being Spanish, for the first time in years :D

ANYTING DAT ISNT COMUNIST IS NEOLIEBRAL111


Social liberal != Neoliberal
Social Democrat != Neoliberal

I think I'm capable of distinguishing even more than you between ideologies, I just critizice that modern 'socialist parties' don't really know what the f**k socialist really means.
Compass:
Left/Right: -9.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03
Spanish, communist
Pro: Democracy, Nationalized economy, socialism, LGTB Rights, Free Speech, Atheism, Inmigration, Direct Democracy
Anti: Dictatorship, Fascism, Social-democracy, Social Liberalism, Neoliberalism, Nationalism, Racism, Xenophobia, Homophobia.
''When you have an imaginary friend, you're crazy, but when many people have the same imaginary friend, it's called religion''

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Dejanic
Senator
 
Posts: 4677
Founded: Nov 20, 2012
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Postby Dejanic » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:12 pm

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
Geilinor wrote:The lower income spend a greater percentage on necessities.

Yes, which is why they shouldn't be taxed.

Somalia has no taxes.
Post-Post Leftist | Anarcho-Blairite | Pol Pot Sympathiser

Jesus was a Socialist | Satan is a Capitalist

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Generic committed leftist with the opinion that anyone even slightly to the right of him is Hitler.

Master Shake wrote:multicultural loving imbecile.

Quintium wrote:Have you even been alive at all, toddler anarcho-collectivist?

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Sebastianbourg
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Posts: 5717
Founded: Apr 06, 2013
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:13 pm

The Jasminia Islands wrote:Well I'll only be 16 in May so I won't get to vote but I'll be wearing a Green Party badge during the campaign and might even do a bit of leafleting. Economically, I'd say I'm closer to the Liberal Democrats and before 2010, I supported them but the way they've let the Tories walk over them makes me question their strength and integrity. I support the Greens in pretty much every policies (except some of its economical policies and the issue of the monarchy) and I think it's time to pull the centre ground back towards the left.

I still support the Liberal Democrats but I have to agree with you; they've done absolutely nothing but let the Tories run them over. I'd support Labour before the Greens though; some of their economic policies and the fact that they want the abolition of the monarchy just scares me away from them.

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Dejanic
Senator
 
Posts: 4677
Founded: Nov 20, 2012
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Postby Dejanic » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:13 pm

Martean wrote:
Dejanic wrote:ANYTING DAT ISNT COMUNIST IS NEOLIEBRAL111


Social liberal != Neoliberal
Social Democrat != Neoliberal

I think I'm capable of distinguishing even more than you between ideologies, I just critizice that modern 'socialist parties' don't really know what the f**k socialist really means.

Dude, the other day you said that Communism is "government control of production", so you don't know jack amigo.
Post-Post Leftist | Anarcho-Blairite | Pol Pot Sympathiser

Jesus was a Socialist | Satan is a Capitalist

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Generic committed leftist with the opinion that anyone even slightly to the right of him is Hitler.

Master Shake wrote:multicultural loving imbecile.

Quintium wrote:Have you even been alive at all, toddler anarcho-collectivist?

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Lunas Legion
Post Czar
 
Posts: 31181
Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:13 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Lunas Legion wrote:
I know a monarchist who'd agree. That's 2 out of a hundred signatures down (I think it's 100 to form a new political party). Steal all of UKIP's support (and thus save the UK from Nigel Fascisti) and continue the Great British tradition of invading France once every century.

But we did that two times last century!


And we must do it again! People like distractions, and what better distraction than invading France? Right? I mean, sure, it'll piss everyone off, but hey, we can just ask the Ruskies or the Chinese or the Commonwealth for help or something.
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Britanno
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Founded: Apr 05, 2013
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Postby Britanno » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:14 pm

Dejanic wrote:Somalia has no taxes.

So what you're saying is... UKIP supporters should become immigrants and go to Somalia?
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British, male, heterosexual, aged 26, liberal conservative, unitarian universalist
Pro: marriage equality, polygamy, abortion up to viability, UK Lib Dems, US Democrats
Anti: discrimination, euroscepticism, UKIP, immigrant bashing, UK Labour, US Republicans
British Home Counties wrote:
Alyakia wrote:our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed
America is doing fine atm

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Sebastianbourg
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Founded: Apr 06, 2013
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:14 pm

Martean wrote:
Dejanic wrote:ANYTING DAT ISNT COMUNIST IS NEOLIEBRAL111


Social liberal != Neoliberal
Social Democrat != Neoliberal

I think I'm capable of distinguishing even more than you between ideologies, I just critizice that modern 'socialist parties' don't really know what the f**k socialist really means.

The meaning of socialism has always been ambiguous.

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Lunas Legion
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Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Martean wrote:
Social liberal != Neoliberal
Social Democrat != Neoliberal

I think I'm capable of distinguishing even more than you between ideologies, I just critizice that modern 'socialist parties' don't really know what the f**k socialist really means.

The meaning of socialism has always been ambiguous.


Except in the UK, where Labour has given up on socialism.
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Mesrane
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Founded: Apr 13, 2014
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Postby Mesrane » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Well, I'm no expert whatsoever in British politics, but in my opinion Labour looks like it's going to gain most, followed shortly after by UKIP, who I think will gain as well.
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Sebastianbourg
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Britanno wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Somalia has no taxes.

So what you're saying is... UKIP supporters should become immigrants and go to Somalia?

35 years later...
Somalia Independence Party (SIP)
For a Brit-free Somalia.

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:But we did that two times last century!


And we must do it again! People like distractions, and what better distraction than invading France? Right? I mean, sure, it'll piss everyone off, but hey, we can just ask the Ruskies or the Chinese or the Commonwealth for help or something.

Don't fucking ask the Ruskies, they always pick the worst countries to march through on their way to France.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Britanno
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Founded: Apr 05, 2013
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Postby Britanno » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Lunas Legion wrote:And we must do it again! People like distractions, and what better distraction than invading France? Right? I mean, sure, it'll piss everyone off, but hey, we can just ask the Ruskies or the Chinese or the Commonwealth for help or something.

[Insert several racial stereotyping jokes about Italy, Germany and America here that the mods would considering trolling or some shit
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British, male, heterosexual, aged 26, liberal conservative, unitarian universalist
Pro: marriage equality, polygamy, abortion up to viability, UK Lib Dems, US Democrats
Anti: discrimination, euroscepticism, UKIP, immigrant bashing, UK Labour, US Republicans
British Home Counties wrote:
Alyakia wrote:our nations greatest achievement is slowly but surely being destroyed
America is doing fine atm

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Dejanic
Senator
 
Posts: 4677
Founded: Nov 20, 2012
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Postby Dejanic » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Britanno wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Somalia has no taxes.

So what you're saying is... UKIP supporters should become immigrants and go to Somalia?

They'd love it, Somalia has no gun laws, low taxes, deregulation, the nation is NOT part of the damned European Union, AND THERE'S NO ROMANIANS!
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Jesus was a Socialist | Satan is a Capitalist

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Generic committed leftist with the opinion that anyone even slightly to the right of him is Hitler.

Master Shake wrote:multicultural loving imbecile.

Quintium wrote:Have you even been alive at all, toddler anarcho-collectivist?

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The Jasminia Islands
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Founded: May 10, 2014
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Postby The Jasminia Islands » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:16 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
The Jasminia Islands wrote:Well I'll only be 16 in May so I won't get to vote but I'll be wearing a Green Party badge during the campaign and might even do a bit of leafleting. Economically, I'd say I'm closer to the Liberal Democrats and before 2010, I supported them but the way they've let the Tories walk over them makes me question their strength and integrity. I support the Greens in pretty much every policies (except some of its economical policies and the issue of the monarchy) and I think it's time to pull the centre ground back towards the left.

I still support the Liberal Democrats but I have to agree with you; they've done absolutely nothing but let the Tories run them over. I'd support Labour before the Greens though; some of their economic policies and the fact that they want the abolition of the monarchy just scares me away from them.

Yes, I understand that it probably turns a lot of people off but at least it stands by its convictions. I cannot bring myself to support Labour. Ed Milliband is useless, it's full of career politicians who've progressed from uni to a thinktabk to an intern to an MP, and the way the party runs itself is hardly democratic.
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