Should democracy get tough on communist party's in the west?

[Imperiatom]

Should democracy get tough on communist party's in the west is the question, and if so how tough?
I am interested to find out what the members of nation states feel about this. As if the communists ever took power i doubt we could use this site as we do presently. The outlawing of other political party's would i believe occur, swiftly followed by the repression of free speech and expression. Given that the attitude of the communists is my way or the highway( Road of bones- for those who don't understand my pun) should we tolerate them or should we crack down on them as Germany does for example on Nazi ideology.

I am torn between Keeping the status quo or outlawing the party.


EDIT: I went for the quo because i decided that thankfully communism is irrelevant in the modern world.

[Frisivisia]

Nope, freedom of speech and assembly are basic tenets of liberty.

[Wamitoria]

Unless they're waging war on the state or the people, there is no reason to "get tough" on largely uninfluential western Communist parties.

[Vareiln]

You know, if a party is outlawed, it ain't much of a democracy.

[Zavea]

there's this thing called freedom of speech.

[Randy F Marsh]

Is this an in-character/role-play kind of question?

In any case, no.

[Napkiraly]

Nope, freedom of speech and assembly are basic tenets of liberty.

^This.

[Jetan]

As long as the parties operate within the bounds of law there is no reason to do anything about them.

I wonder how long it will take for our consensus to be broken.

[Threlizdun]

Destroy democracy to save democracy? Makes perfect sense.

[Chestaan]

Yes, they should. That way communism might actually get more popular. So, sure, do us a favour if you that's what you want.

[Fluffy Coyotes]

You know, if a party is outlawed, it ain't much of a democracy.

This, basically.

[Imperiatom]

Is there a good reason for tolerating something that would not tolerate you. if you do tolerate it, is it possible one might be laying the seeds to their own downfall?

[Khadgar]

I'm sorry, what part of communism is incompatible with democracy? That's always confused me.

[Randy F Marsh]

You know, if a party is outlawed, it ain't much of a democracy.

Depends if the majority wanted it outlawed or not. Are we talking democracy democracy, or democracy democracy?

[Forster Keys]

Two university students and a couple of pamphlets on Stalin are a real threat to the status quo. Always have been.

[Randy F Marsh]

I'm sorry, what part of communism is incompatible with democracy? That's always confused me.

Probably, the fact that most of the communist parties that are out there are incompatible with communism.

[Chestaan]

Is there a good reason for tolerating something that would not tolerate you. if you do tolerate it, is it possible one might be laying the seeds to their own downfall?

Why should we tolerate you? Clearly YOU are an enemy of democracy as you just advocated banning political parties. Does that mean that you should be imprisoned?

[Fluffy Coyotes]

Is there a good reason for tolerating something that would not tolerate you. if you do tolerate it, is it possible one might be laying the seeds to their own downfall?

Where did the most powerful of Communist regimes come from?

Soviet Russia, the product of autocracy, poverty, and unpreparedness for World War 1.

China, which resulted from a bloody civil war that happened soon after their involvement in World War 2. And they've since diverged from communism somewhat anyway.

North Korea, formed by another civil war.

Seems like people tend to turn to communism when what society had was shitty anyway. Perhaps that's what should be blamed for laying the seeds of a society's downfall.

[Khadgar]

I'm sorry, what part of communism is incompatible with democracy? That's always confused me.

Probably, the fact that most of the communist parties that are out there are incompatible with communism.

Well "Jack-booted Authoritarian Dick Party" is a tough sell.

[Frisivisia]

Probably, the fact that most of the communist parties that are out there are incompatible with communism.

Well "Jack-booted Authoritarian Dick Party" is a tough sell.

Well, the Republicans manage to do that without the jackboots.

[Imperiatom]

I'm sorry, what part of communism is incompatible with democracy? That's always confused me.

communism is the people who support Marxian ideology but believe that they need to be proactive and force people to conform to creating a socialist communist state. As opposed to Marx himself who said that it was inevitable and should be left to occur in it's own time. To force a communist society on a people you need to outlaw democracy.

[Forster Keys]

Is there a good reason for tolerating something that would not tolerate you. if you do tolerate it, is it possible one might be laying the seeds to their own downfall?

Where did the most powerful of Communist regimes come from?

Soviet Russia, the product of autocracy, poverty, and unpreparedness for World War 1.

China, which resulted from a bloody civil war that happened soon after their involvement in World War 2. And they've since diverged from communism somewhat anyway.

North Korea, formed by another civil war.

Seems like people tend to turn to communism when what society had was shitty anyway. Perhaps that's what should be blamed for laying the seeds of a society's downfall.

Basically, radical change emerges from societal crises. If you like the status quo, be flexible.

[Frisivisia]

I'm sorry, what part of communism is incompatible with democracy? That's always confused me.

communism is the people who support Marxian ideology but believe that they need to be proactive and force people to conform to creating a socialist communist state. As opposed to Marx himself who said that it was inevitable and should be left to occur in it's own time. To force a communist society on a people you need to outlaw democracy.

Wat.

[Imperiatom]

Is there a good reason for tolerating something that would not tolerate you. if you do tolerate it, is it possible one might be laying the seeds to their own downfall?

Why should we tolerate you? Clearly YOU are an enemy of democracy as you just advocated banning political parties. Does that mean that you should be imprisoned?

Read my OP and then come back and tell me what i supposedly think.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

I'm sorry, what part of communism is incompatible with democracy? That's always confused me.

communism is the people who support Marxian ideology but believe that they need to be proactive and force people to conform to creating a socialist communist state.

You're talking bullshit about things you don't understand.

Unless you'd like to explain how aiming for anarchy is aiming for a state.

As opposed to Marx himself who said that it was inevitable and should be left to occur in it's own time.

Not really, no. He described the confrontation as inevitable, not the victory.

To force a communist society on a people you need to outlaw democracy.

Not really, no.

Should democracy get tough on communist party's in the west is the question, and if so how tough?

No, unless you hate freedom of expression.

I am interested to find out what the members of nation states feel about this. As if the communists ever took power i doubt we could use this site as we do presently.

You're wrong.

The outlawing of other political party's would i believe occur,

Not really, no, given that there wouldn't be a state.

swiftly followed by the repression of free speech and expression.

Not really, no.

Given that the attitude of the communists is my way or the highway( Road of bones- for those who don't understand my pun)

You appear to be misrepresenting the communist position.

should we tolerate them or should we crack down on them as Germany does for example on Nazi ideology.

If you'd kindly explain how crypto-anarchists are as anti-democratic and totalitarian as Nazis, that'd be lovely.