Is There a God?

[Farnhamia]

Yes, please, amd the names of the people you've been reading.

Most of the cultures (with the exception of Ancient Egypt) have a story of the great flood. The reason and events vary, but they are all about humanity being destroyed by a global flood with only a few survivors.

Christians have Noah'a Ark, the Aboriginals believe that a frog drank all the water in the world, and let it out creating a flood when the other animals made him laugh. The Greek story of the flood is not much different from the Christian version other than humans were recreated from stones being tossed. The Native Americans believed that Wisagatcak built a wooden vessel and loaded animals onto it. He was the only surviving human. He handed a ball of grass and dirt to the wolf and the wolf ran around in a circle while Wisagatcak uttered a chant, causing the ball to grow into an entire continent.

The Norse and the Slavs believed that Earth was on top of a world tree and there was a snake guarding the trunk. Also, a hero retrieving or delivering the gift of fire is a common motif.

Tree worship was practiced world wide, especially in ancient Europe and fairly common in Asian mythology.

The Anasazi describe the kachinas as ancestral spirits who wore armor and lived in the skies. There are images of kachinas on walls that portray them in disc like vehicles.

Excellent dodge of the question. Evidence for gods from outer space wearing space gear, and who have you been reading?

For extra credit, can you think of a reason flood myths are found around the world?

[Nordengrund]

Most of the cultures (with the exception of Ancient Egypt) have a story of the great flood. The reason and events vary, but they are all about humanity being destroyed by a global flood with only a few survivors.

Christians have Noah'a Ark, the Aboriginals believe that a frog drank all the water in the world, and let it out creating a flood when the other animals made him laugh. The Greek story of the flood is not much different from the Christian version other than humans were recreated from stones being tossed. The Native Americans believed that Wisagatcak built a wooden vessel and loaded animals onto it. He was the only surviving human. He handed a ball of grass and dirt to the wolf and the wolf ran around in a circle while Wisagatcak uttered a chant, causing the ball to grow into an entire continent.

So a handful of cultures that developed in flood-prone areas and/or areas known to have been flooded by sea level rise have flood myths? This is not evidence for anything beyond that people have a tendency to make their myths around what they know.

The Norse and the Slavs believed that Earth was on top of a world tree and there was a snake guarding the trunk. Also, a hero retrieving or delivering the gift of fire is a common motif.

And? The Nordic and Slavic cultures developed near to each other, relatively speaking, and that's probably a holdover from before they separated as much as they did in the era with which we are familiar. Fire is a Big Thing, and it is no surprise that there are myths about it.

Tree worship was practiced world wide, especially in ancient Europe and fairly common in Asian mythology.

Mainly in cultures where trees provided a significant proportion of what people needed to live. This is also not surprising.

The Anasazi describe the kachinas as ancestral spirits who wore armor and lived in the skies. There are images of kachinas on walls that portray them in disc like vehicles.

People living in the sky != aliens (hint: if they're recognisably human, they aren't fucking alien, or drawn from an alien source). Disk like vehicles == easy to draw.

Well, the way humans are designed make us adaptable, so I do not see why aliens cannot be like that.

[Salandriagado]

So a handful of cultures that developed in flood-prone areas and/or areas known to have been flooded by sea level rise have flood myths? This is not evidence for anything beyond that people have a tendency to make their myths around what they know.



And? The Nordic and Slavic cultures developed near to each other, relatively speaking, and that's probably a holdover from before they separated as much as they did in the era with which we are familiar. Fire is a Big Thing, and it is no surprise that there are myths about it.



Mainly in cultures where trees provided a significant proportion of what people needed to live. This is also not surprising.



People living in the sky != aliens (hint: if they're recognisably human, they aren't fucking alien, or drawn from an alien source). Disk like vehicles == easy to draw.

Well, the way humans are designed make us adaptable, so I do not see why aliens cannot be like that.

No. The fact that we adapted makes us adaptable. That also has nothing to do with any of my points (or the one that I edited in whilst you were writing that post).

[Person012345]

And yet, they are painfully uninteresting to read.

I guess that's your opinion. I feel that way about some science magazines and works of fiction. It doesn't mean that they aren't good to spend time on if it serves me in some way; eg. research for school, literature for a class, or knowing what the fuck Shari'a law is, since Shari'a courts are popping up in the UK.

You'll never be in one (unless you choose to), those are civil courts that use the principle of sharia to determine civil cases, not criminal ones, and are voluntary.

[Farnhamia]

Well, the way humans are designed make us adaptable, so I do not see why aliens cannot be like that.

No. The fact that we adapted makes us adaptable. That also has nothing to do with any of my points (or the one that I edited in whilst you were writing that post).

I'd venture that Nordengrund has been dipping into von Daniken and Sitchin.

[Mavorpen]

The fact that so many people base their lives off a work means that understanding it is integral to understanding them.

Right, which I've been doing.

When there is such a large group, it means that whatever the work is, understanding it could have profound implications in understanding human psychology and sociology as a whole. Understanding the beliefs of other people is a very large part of the humanities.

That's nice. None of this in any way makes the two an interesting read.

It doesn't matter how uninteresting it is to you - it is still an important work that has a great impact on the world.

I don't care. It's not interesting to me.

[Person012345]

Well, for the purpose of understanding and critique, as well as its historical significance, it would seem like an important read for the realm of literature that it is in.

Also, the Bible Code is astonishingly accurate in predicting past, present, and future events.

What do you mean "the Bible Code". If you mean something found in the bible, no it isn't.

[Nordengrund]

Most of the cultures (with the exception of Ancient Egypt) have a story of the great flood. The reason and events vary, but they are all about humanity being destroyed by a global flood with only a few survivors.

Christians have Noah'a Ark, the Aboriginals believe that a frog drank all the water in the world, and let it out creating a flood when the other animals made him laugh. The Greek story of the flood is not much different from the Christian version other than humans were recreated from stones being tossed. The Native Americans believed that Wisagatcak built a wooden vessel and loaded animals onto it. He was the only surviving human. He handed a ball of grass and dirt to the wolf and the wolf ran around in a circle while Wisagatcak uttered a chant, causing the ball to grow into an entire continent.

The Norse and the Slavs believed that Earth was on top of a world tree and there was a snake guarding the trunk. Also, a hero retrieving or delivering the gift of fire is a common motif.

Tree worship was practiced world wide, especially in ancient Europe and fairly common in Asian mythology.

The Anasazi describe the kachinas as ancestral spirits who wore armor and lived in the skies. There are images of kachinas on walls that portray them in disc like vehicles.

Excellent dodge of the question. Evidence for gods from outer space wearing space gear, and who have you been reading?

For extra credit, can you think of a reason flood myths are found around the world?

1) I was watching Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. Seems pretty convincing if you watch it.
2) Because a global flood did happen, or else it would not appear in so many cultures.

[Mavorpen]

1) I was watching Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. Seems pretty convincing if you watch it.

You...take the History Channel seriously? Okay guys, pack it up, he's hopeless.

[Farnhamia]

Also, the Bible Code is astonishingly accurate in predicting past, present, and future events.

What do you mean "the Bible Code". If you mean something found in the bible, no it isn't.

Bible Code ... you'll love it.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Excellent dodge of the question. Evidence for gods from outer space wearing space gear, and who have you been reading?

For extra credit, can you think of a reason flood myths are found around the world?

1) I was watching Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. Seems pretty convincing if you watch it.
2) Because a global flood did happen, or else it would not appear in so many cultures.

1: I've watched it a couple of times. I think I even fell asleep to it once. Their logic is poor, their evidence is not evidence of what they claim it is and they have never heard of Occam or his shaving implement.
2: No. Floods happen. Humans need water, so they build settlements near rivers. Rivers can flood. People exaggerate.

[Salandriagado]

Excellent dodge of the question. Evidence for gods from outer space wearing space gear, and who have you been reading?

For extra credit, can you think of a reason flood myths are found around the world?

1) I was watching Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. Seems pretty convincing if you watch it.

If you actually bother to learn things like science and history first, however, it is amazingly obvious that it's entirely bullshit. Might be worth watching for the comedy value though, if you fancy a cheap laugh.

2) Because a global flood did happen, or else it would not appear in so many cultures.

Nope. Find me the water, please. I have already provided you with an actual explanation that fits the facts.

[Person012345]

1) I was watching Ancient Aliens on the History Channel.

[Alikhaa]

The Ancient Aliens theory is interesting, I'll totally grant you that. But it's fairly sensationalist and has a lot of holes. I'm pretty sure it's just to get ratings or whatever. Same with that Aquatic Ape documentary they posted. At least they're getting creative, but I wouldn't really call it hard history...

[Magmia]

Also, the Bible Code is astonishingly accurate in predicting past, present, and future events.

What do you mean "the Bible Code". If you mean something found in the bible, no it isn't.

It has something to do with laying out the texts in a way where it's like playing the "find the words among letters" game.

Or at least that's my understanding of it

[The Realm of God]

Excellent dodge of the question. Evidence for gods from outer space wearing space gear, and who have you been reading?

For extra credit, can you think of a reason flood myths are found around the world?

1) I was watching Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. Seems pretty convincing if you watch it.
2) Because a global flood did happen, or else it would not appear in so many cultures.

No seriously Ancient Aliens is a joke and an insult to REAL history. Of course it sounds convincing it's brainless with some good orators who are hired to sell you bullshit.

[The Truth and Light]

Excellent dodge of the question. Evidence for gods from outer space wearing space gear, and who have you been reading?

For extra credit, can you think of a reason flood myths are found around the world?

1) I was watching Ancient Aliens on the History Channel. Seems pretty convincing if you watch it.
2) Because a global flood did happen, or else it would not appear in so many cultures.

1) The History Channel is notorious for making crackpot shows that present crackpot hypotheses with little evidence.
2)Except geologist pretty much universally agree that there is no evidence for a great flood. Look on any grand scientific timeline of the earth's bilogical and geological history and there will be no mention of the 40 day destruction of the earth by water. Because it didn't happen.

[Alikhaa]

Also, global flooding could happen for many reasons. I know one of my ancestors (Brett) actually won an award for discovering that Michigan used to be underwater. Glacial melting contributed to a lot of flooded area.

[Person012345]

What do you mean "the Bible Code". If you mean something found in the bible, no it isn't.

Bible Code ... you'll love it.

purported set of secret messages encoded

Ok, that's as far as I need to read.

[The New World Oceania]

If you think about it,wouldn't insanity be a bit more sane in terms of religion? Because even as a religious person, I'll truly admit that religion is an awfully insane thing. So in the insane, the insane of the insane must really be a lot more sane than the mainstream insane!

What I'm saying is- the heretics are right (objectively), and the mainstream are batshit insane.

[Mavorpen]

Also, global flooding could happen for many reasons. I know one of my ancestors (Brett) actually won an award for discovering that Michigan used to be underwater. Glacial melting contributed to a lot of flooded area.

That's not Global flooding.

[The Realm of God]

What do you mean "the Bible Code". If you mean something found in the bible, no it isn't.

It has something to do with laying out the texts in a way where it's like playing the "find the words among letters" game.

Or at least that's my understanding of it

Yeah someone data mined the Old Testement and a batshit consperacy theory has sprung up.

[Person012345]

What do you mean "the Bible Code". If you mean something found in the bible, no it isn't.

It has something to do with laying out the texts in a way where it's like playing the "find the words among letters" game.

Or at least that's my understanding of it

Funny how things like that only predict them after they happened. Like, no-one used it to stop 9/11, or to evacuate people from major disaster areas, it's always "oh look, it totally predicted this when we flip it this way and read all the A's as C's and the P's as T's and we substitute the numbers for letters and take this bit out" after the event in question has occurred.

[The New World Oceania]

Also, global flooding could happen for many reasons. I know one of my ancestors (Brett) actually won an award for discovering that Michigan used to be underwater. Glacial melting contributed to a lot of flooded area.

That's not Global flooding.

The globe didn't flood, some idiot in the third century translated it wrong.

[Alikhaa]

Also, global flooding could happen for many reasons. I know one of my ancestors (Brett) actually won an award for discovering that Michigan used to be underwater. Glacial melting contributed to a lot of flooded area.

That's not Global flooding.

It could certainly seem like it, and it could have contributed to it. It's foolish to pretend we've got the entire history of the earth figured out. That's a very, very, very long time.