Metal Thread 3: Subjectivity isn't Metal

[Cadonica]

So, that's 2 Irish bands I like. What's next? Ask my Mum's side of the family if they approve?

Thin Lizzy or go home

[Hurdegaryp]

So, that's 2 Irish bands I like. What's next? Ask my Mum's side of the family if they approve?

Thin Lizzy or go home

Classic rock is classic, but don't forget Therapy? and the impressive discography brought forth by that alternative metal/punk stalwart.

[Faschist Deutsch Reich]

The second song is from their very first album, which is why it's a bit different. Figured I'd throw it in for variety. But as you can tell, the following albums are much more refined. My favorite is To The Nameless Dead, followed by Spirit The Earth Aflame.

Ok, that makes sense. Anyway, I might as well start with those albums that you mentioned.

Which song/album changed your mind on Altar? I've only heard their last album, Teethed Glory and Injury, but I like it a lot. Powerful stuff.

When I decided to listen to them again, I quickly sampled a few tracks off of White Tomb and Mammal and from what I heard, it was enough to win me over. I still have to listen to both of those albums, but so far I've given 2 of their EPs (Sol and Tides) a listen and I thoroughly enjoyed them. As for Teethed Glory and Injury, I haven't really looked into that one yet.

Looking back; I don't quite remember why I disliked the band? I think it was either because I wasn't as accustomed to the style of production or I wasn't quite "feeling" their music's atmosphere. Undoubtedly, I am still a little picky on both these factors, but much less so than before.

[The New Sea Territory]

I found this on r/metal today. Pretty good black metal from the UK.

Also, Russian folk/death band Leshak released a new album today. It's pretty good so far.

[Galborea]

Why do people associate The Black Dahlia Murder with deathcore?

[Cadonica]

Why do people associate The Black Dahlia Murder with deathcore?

Some people just go "long name, gotta be core".

[Galborea]

Why do people associate The Black Dahlia Murder with deathcore?

Some people just go "long name, gotta be core".

Same goes for appearance. If you look at older pictures of the band they were all short-haired.

[Grunvirdym]

Some people just go "long name, gotta be core".

Same goes for appearance. If you look at older pictures of the band they were all short-haired.

I've never really listened to them for that reason (The long name equals core or just mediocre. When I was in the "KILL THE POSERS HUEHUEHUE" phase my friends and I decided that any band under five syllables long is shite so its pretty much hammered into my psyche and I tend to subconsciously still follow by those rules.), are they any good?

[Galborea]

Same goes for appearance. If you look at older pictures of the band they were all short-haired.

I've never really listened to them for that reason (The long name equals core or just mediocre. When I was in the "KILL THE POSERS HUEHUEHUE" phase my friends and I decided that any band under five syllables long is shite so its pretty much hammered into my psyche and I tend to subconsciously still follow by those rules.), are they any good?

Obviously that's the dumbest reason to dislike anything. This band is...fucking phenomenal. My favorite melodic death metal band and they have virtually nothing in common with deathcore except touring with some of the bands like All Shall Perish and Whitechapel. But hey, fucking Cannibal Corpse has toured with deathcore bands in the past as well so that's no reason to exclude them. Oh yeah and in my defense I actually enjoy deathcore.

Recommended album to start with: Nocturnal
Recommended songs: What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse, Deathmask Divine

[Sorkun]

Same goes for appearance. If you look at older pictures of the band they were all short-haired.

I've never really listened to them for that reason (The long name equals core or just mediocre. When I was in the "KILL THE POSERS HUEHUEHUE" phase my friends and I decided that any band under five syllables long is shite so its pretty much hammered into my psyche and I tend to subconsciously still follow by those rules.), are they any good?

[Grunvirdym]

I've never really listened to them for that reason (The long name equals core or just mediocre. When I was in the "KILL THE POSERS HUEHUEHUE" phase my friends and I decided that any band under five syllables long is shite so its pretty much hammered into my psyche and I tend to subconsciously still follow by those rules.), are they any good?

Obviously that's the dumbest reason to dislike anything. This band is...fucking phenomenal. My favorite melodic death metal band and they have virtually nothing in common with deathcore except touring with some of the bands like All Shall Perish and Whitechapel. But hey, fucking Cannibal Corpse has toured with deathcore bands in the past as well so that's no reason to exclude them. Oh yeah and in my defense I actually enjoy deathcore.

Recommended album to start with: Nocturnal
Recommended songs: What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse, Deathmask Divine

Thanks man, Ill give them a listen.

[Grunvirdym]

I've never really listened to them for that reason (The long name equals core or just mediocre. When I was in the "KILL THE POSERS HUEHUEHUE" phase my friends and I decided that any band under five syllables long is shite so its pretty much hammered into my psyche and I tend to subconsciously still follow by those rules.), are they any good?

And they are from US, not kvlt!!!! Hipster black metal!!!! 2001 huehuehuehue only good black metal is before 1992. RIP Euronymous

[Galborea]

So fucking hyped for the new Katatonia. Three songs are out and they all sound amazing.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Why do people associate The Black Dahlia Murder with deathcore?

im guessing either the voaclist, the year they were fromed in or potential deathcore elements. Speaking of deathcore someone told me that deathcore was a subgenre of death metal.

[Faschist Deutsch Reich]

I've never really listened to them for that reason (The long name equals core or just mediocre. When I was in the "KILL THE POSERS HUEHUEHUE" phase my friends and I decided that any band under five syllables long is shite so its pretty much hammered into my psyche and I tend to subconsciously still follow by those rules.), are they any good?

Obviously that's the dumbest reason to dislike anything. This band is...fucking phenomenal. My favorite melodic death metal band and they have virtually nothing in common with deathcore except touring with some of the bands like All Shall Perish and Whitechapel. But hey, fucking Cannibal Corpse has toured with deathcore bands in the past as well so that's no reason to exclude them. Oh yeah and in my defense I actually enjoy deathcore.

Recommended album to start with: Nocturnal
Recommended songs: What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse, Deathmask Divine

Personally, they're my 4th favourite Melodeath band, but that's only because the likes of Dark Tranquillity, In Flames and Insomnium exist and that I started listening to those bands a fair while before I discovered TBDM's awesomeness. Anyway, they're easily one of the most consistent bands out there, with the added bonus that they can actually put out some truly fantastic albums. My favourite from them would probably have to be Abysmal, but Nocturnal isn't too far behind.

But, yeah... fuck the haters.

So fucking hyped for the new Katatonia. Three songs are out and they all sound amazing.

Judging from the quality of one of the songs that I heard, the album should be great.

[Galborea]

Why do people associate The Black Dahlia Murder with deathcore?

im guessing either the voaclist, the year they were fromed in or potential deathcore elements. Speaking of deathcore someone told me that deathcore was a subgenre of death metal.

Deathcore is a subgenre of death metal. I don't get why anybody would say otherwise. It's ALSO a subgenre of metalcore.

[Republic of the Cristo]

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[Impaled Nazarene]

im guessing either the voaclist, the year they were fromed in or potential deathcore elements. Speaking of deathcore someone told me that deathcore was a subgenre of death metal.

Deathcore is a subgenre of death metal. I don't get why anybody would say otherwise. It's ALSO a subgenre of metalcore.

Waaaay more metalcore influence than death metal. Deathcore by definition is metalcore with death metal influences.

[Kolmya]

I'm currently checking out Nocturnus. Pretty good so far.

[Cosumar]

I'm currently checking out Nocturnus. Pretty good so far.

The Key?

[Bodobol]

So fucking hyped for the new Katatonia. Three songs are out and they all sound amazing.

Dude, I listened to the entire album a few times a month or two ago because iTunes momentarily glitched and accidentally gave me the whole thing when I tried to download a single. It's since been rectified, but I can tell you first-hand, it's so fucking good.

Why do people associate The Black Dahlia Murder with deathcore?

Tangentially related; I always get TBDM and Thy Art Is Murder confused (I've never really listened to either of them). Even after seeing TAIM live, I still do that. Eventually I'll get around to listening to TBDM and that issue will hopefully clear up.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Can't get this fucking song out of my head. MAKE IT STOP

[Hurdegaryp]

I'm currently checking out Nocturnus. Pretty good so far.

The Key?

That's quite the classic album, featuring the very first singer of Morbid Angel. If you're wondering why synthesizers made their entrance in the death metal scene, Nocturnus is the one to blame for that development.

[Galborea]

Deathcore is a subgenre of death metal. I don't get why anybody would say otherwise. It's ALSO a subgenre of metalcore.

Waaaay more metalcore influence than death metal. Deathcore by definition is metalcore with death metal influences.

I think the inherent bias we all had towards core at some point is playing too big of a role. Deathcore's only real metalcore influence if you ask me is in breakdowns, which are used by some death metal bands too. Blast beats, fast riffing, low growls, all death metal. But if you want to get SOME credit we can say Deathcore is a subgenre of both.

The Key?

That's quite the classic album, featuring the very first singer of Morbid Angel. If you're wondering why synthesizers made their entrance in the death metal scene, Nocturnus is the one to blame for that development.

When did synth become a big part of death metal?

So fucking hyped for the new Katatonia. Three songs are out and they all sound amazing.

Dude, I listened to the entire album a few times a month or two ago because iTunes momentarily glitched and accidentally gave me the whole thing when I tried to download a single. It's since been rectified, but I can tell you first-hand, it's so fucking good.

Why do people associate The Black Dahlia Murder with deathcore?

Tangentially related; I always get TBDM and Thy Art Is Murder confused (I've never really listened to either of them). Even after seeing TAIM live, I still do that. Eventually I'll get around to listening to TBDM and that issue will hopefully clear up.

Damn you for listening early. BUT I PRE-ORDERED.

Also TBDM and TAIM, while both great, have little in common. One is melodic death metal and the other is deathcore with a tech-death edge.

[Hurdegaryp]

That's quite the classic album, featuring the very first singer of Morbid Angel. If you're wondering why synthesizers made their entrance in the death metal scene, Nocturnus is the one to blame for that development.

When did synth become a big part of death metal?

Never said synthesizers were a big part of the death metal sound, but Nocturnus certainly inspired bands such as Sadist and Vital Remains.