Metal Thread 2: In Metal There Is No Law

[The New Sea Territory]

Clad in Darkness - Revelries and Silence

Probably the most innovative things I've ever heard done by a black metal band. Black Metal meets Post-Rock and Jazz. The vocalist reminds me of Chuck Schuldiner.

[Volmachtia]

Clad in Darkness - Revelries and Silence

Probably the most innovative things I've ever heard done by a black metal band. Black Metal meets Post-Rock and Jazz. The vocalist reminds me of Chuck Schuldiner.

I've seen black metal spread out quite a bit lately. This is pretty cool stuff.

[The New Sea Territory]

Clad in Darkness - Revelries and Silence

Probably the most innovative things I've ever heard done by a black metal band. Black Metal meets Post-Rock and Jazz. The vocalist reminds me of Chuck Schuldiner.

I've seen black metal spread out quite a bit lately. This is pretty cool stuff.

It really has. As much as people hate on Deafhaven, Post-Black Metal has some absolutely amazing albums.

[The New Sea Territory]

Currently working on the "Essential NST-core" top 50 albums list. Six albums down.

[Cosumar]

Clad in Darkness - Revelries and Silence

Probably the most innovative things I've ever heard done by a black metal band. Black Metal meets Post-Rock and Jazz. The vocalist reminds me of Chuck Schuldiner.

I like it.

[Cadonica]

Nightfall Candlemass
11/10
like Black Sabbath but better

If you liked that I bet you'll love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLk75fF ... eQ_Qnlpjb7

That's easily the best FFDP song but no way in hell is it comparable to Candlemass
Great song anyways.

If you liked that I bet you'll love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLk75fF ... eQ_Qnlpjb7

Arguably the worst popular metal band in existence. Thanks for sharing, now I will go sanitize myself with good music.

Ghost BC is way worse.

I've seen black metal spread out quite a bit lately. This is pretty cool stuff.

It really has. As much as people hate on Deafhaven, Post-Black Metal has some absolutely amazing albums.

So far I haven't heard one single good post-black metal album. Probably not even one good song.

[The New Sea Territory]

It really has. As much as people hate on Deafhaven, Post-Black Metal has some absolutely amazing albums.

So far I haven't heard one single good post-black metal album. Probably not even one good song.

I've posted dozens. "Post"-Black Metal really refers to any post-Second Wave black metal that isn't trying to worship Darkthrone and Burzum. They incorporate different genres into black metal. So, unless you are a trve kvlt pvrist, there has to be something out there you would enjoy.

Altar of Plagues is decent, Deafhaven is overrated but not bad, Lantlos is probably the best. Clad in Darkness, Panopticon, Peste Noire, early Alcest, Skagos, Skyforest, Falaise, and Wolves in the Throne Room (specifically, "Two Hunters") are all good. There's also an album called "The World Comes to an End in the End of a Journey", which is a split album between six different post-black and blackgaze bands.

What I posted earlier (jazzy post-rock mixed with black metal) is a great example of what post-black metal can be if done right:

Clad in Darkness - Revelries & Silence

[Cadonica]

So far I haven't heard one single good post-black metal album. Probably not even one good song.

I've posted dozens. "Post"-Black Metal really refers to any post-Second Wave black metal that isn't trying to worship Darkthrone and Burzum. They incorporate different genres into black metal. So, unless you are a trve kvlt pvrist, there has to be something out there you would enjoy.

Altar of Plagues is decent, Deafhaven is overrated but not bad, Lantlos is probably the best. Clad in Darkness, Panopticon, Peste Noire, early Alcest, Skagos, Skyforest, Falaise, and Wolves in the Throne Room (specifically, "Two Hunters") are all good. There's also an album called "The World Comes to an End in the End of a Journey", which is a split album between six different post-black and blackgaze bands.

What I posted earlier (jazzy post-rock mixed with black metal) is a great example of what post-black metal can be if done right:

Clad in Darkness - Revelries & Silence

I love my black metal in the vein of Burzum, Satanic Warmaster, Graveland, Immortal, Mayhem, Behexen etc. Also dsbm like Xasthur, Happy Days, Suicidal Inc. etc. so yeah

[Bodobol]

I've posted dozens. "Post"-Black Metal really refers to any post-Second Wave black metal that isn't trying to worship Darkthrone and Burzum. They incorporate different genres into black metal. So, unless you are a trve kvlt pvrist, there has to be something out there you would enjoy.

Altar of Plagues is decent, Deafhaven is overrated but not bad, Lantlos is probably the best. Clad in Darkness, Panopticon, Peste Noire, early Alcest, Skagos, Skyforest, Falaise, and Wolves in the Throne Room (specifically, "Two Hunters") are all good. There's also an album called "The World Comes to an End in the End of a Journey", which is a split album between six different post-black and blackgaze bands.

What I posted earlier (jazzy post-rock mixed with black metal) is a great example of what post-black metal can be if done right:

Clad in Darkness - Revelries & Silence

I love my black metal in the vein of Burzum, Satanic Warmaster, Graveland, Immortal, Mayhem, Behexen etc. Also dsbm like Xasthur, Happy Days, Suicidal Inc. etc. so yeah

I tried to be a part of that vein of black metal for a really long time, and I loved its imagery, but I always got this really unpleasant feeling when I listened to it for too long, even though it felt so nice in short bursts. Super desolate, or isolated, or something- I don't know how to describe it. Not for me, I guess. So I migrated back to more popular forms of metal/music in general. I still listen to 'darker' kinds of black metal occasionally though.

[Cadonica]

I love my black metal in the vein of Burzum, Satanic Warmaster, Graveland, Immortal, Mayhem, Behexen etc. Also dsbm like Xasthur, Happy Days, Suicidal Inc. etc. so yeah

I tried to be a part of that vein of black metal for a really long time, and I loved its imagery, but I always got this really unpleasant feeling when I listened to it for too long, even though it felt so nice in short bursts. Super desolate, or isolated, or something- I don't know how to describe it. Not for me, I guess. So I migrated back to more popular forms of metal/music in general. I still listen to 'darker' kinds of black metal occasionally though.

That desolate and isolated feeling is the reason why I love it, I can listen to it for hours
Just like doom metal.

[Bodobol]

I tried to be a part of that vein of black metal for a really long time, and I loved its imagery, but I always got this really unpleasant feeling when I listened to it for too long, even though it felt so nice in short bursts. Super desolate, or isolated, or something- I don't know how to describe it. Not for me, I guess. So I migrated back to more popular forms of metal/music in general. I still listen to 'darker' kinds of black metal occasionally though.

That desolate and isolated feeling is the reason why I love it, I can listen to it for hours
Just like doom metal.

Have you heard of NKVD? They're one of the few really underground black metal bands that I can listen to for extended periods of time. Their sound is just so powerful that it feels oppressive, something that I can't say I've heard many other bands pull off (not saying they don't exist, though; my foray into really underground stuff didn't last long).

[Cadonica]

That desolate and isolated feeling is the reason why I love it, I can listen to it for hours
Just like doom metal.

Have you heard of NKVD? They're one of the few really underground black metal bands that I can listen to for extended periods of time. Their sound is just so powerful that it feels oppressive, something that I can't say I've heard many other bands pull off (not saying they don't exist, though; my foray into really underground stuff didn't last long).

Haven't heard. Judging by that and few other songs by them, I probably won't be listening to them.

[Edward Richtofen]

Arguably the worst popular metal band in existence. Thanks for sharing, now I will go sanitize myself with good music.

Ghost BC is way worse.

well shit I like BC

[Edward Richtofen]

I've posted dozens. "Post"-Black Metal really refers to any post-Second Wave black metal that isn't trying to worship Darkthrone and Burzum. They incorporate different genres into black metal. So, unless you are a trve kvlt pvrist, there has to be something out there you would enjoy.

Altar of Plagues is decent, Deafhaven is overrated but not bad, Lantlos is probably the best. Clad in Darkness, Panopticon, Peste Noire, early Alcest, Skagos, Skyforest, Falaise, and Wolves in the Throne Room (specifically, "Two Hunters") are all good. There's also an album called "The World Comes to an End in the End of a Journey", which is a split album between six different post-black and blackgaze bands.

What I posted earlier (jazzy post-rock mixed with black metal) is a great example of what post-black metal can be if done right:

Clad in Darkness - Revelries & Silence

I love my black metal in the vein of Burzum, Satanic Warmaster, Graveland, Immortal, Mayhem, Behexen etc. Also dsbm like Xasthur, Happy Days, Suicidal Inc. etc. so yeah

You forgot IN

[Cadonica]

I love my black metal in the vein of Burzum, Satanic Warmaster, Graveland, Immortal, Mayhem, Behexen etc. Also dsbm like Xasthur, Happy Days, Suicidal Inc. etc. so yeah

You forgot IN

I left it out because they're not quite like the other bands mentioned here.

[Edward Richtofen]

Christian Woman is my fucking lullaby

[Corrian]

I am late, but I have arrived!

Not sure I have any metal to offer right now, though.

Jammin' to some Summoning. Their newest album still definitely has the most epic intros.

[Edward Richtofen]

I am late, but I have arrived!

Not sure I have any metal to offer right now, though.

Jammin' to some Summoning. Their newest album still definitely has the most epic intros.

long lost to where no pathway goes

[NeuPolska]

I'm getting some new pickups to replace my EMG 81/85 set, I'm thinking SD Hot-Rodded JB for the bridge and a Jazz or something for the neck.

[Corrian]

*Reads through thread, tries to respond to everything*

First off...WHY DOES EVERYTHING NEED TO REFERENCE MY LITTLE PONY NOW? ALSO WHY IS THAT SHOW SO DAMN OBSESSIVELY LOVED IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Alright, that's for another topic.

So I finally got Blind Guardian's Beyond the Red Mirror coming to my house. Got myself the Digibook edition. Can't wait for it to get here, I haven't heard even a second off of it, going into it without any previous listening.

I must just not be able to get into symphonic metal because I've never been able to get into Blind Guardian. Just sounds like another symphonic metal band to me...

Not that I have really listened to them much.

What playlist?

A while back, Richtofen asked me to telegram him a playlist of all my favorite black metal on Spotify. It ended up on tumblr and went somewhat viral.

My playlists get no love

No. Dickinson sounds gay.

found the homophobe

More like uses the stupidest insult you can possibly come up with.

I think it really mainly depends on the genre. Black metal, for instance, just wouldn't sound right with the production value of most popular metal bands, and vice versa.

That being said, I have my limits, I personally don't really like stuff that sounds like it was recorded with a microwave in most cases. Probably an extreme example, but I tried listening to Vomir a couple weeks ago and gave up completely because I literally couldn't hear anything besides static or something.

I don't care if it is black metal, if it sounds sooo intentionally bad quality recording on purpose, it's an instant turn off for me, and I don't really care how high quality the recording is in music.

But I also think that an album shouldn't be judged by it no matter what the genre. Especially when the same websites that bash Redeemer of Souls have given Black Metal albums with much lower production near perfect scores. Different genres, I get it, but seriously, have you ever heard Bathory's "The Return"? That album sounds like a chorus of chainsaws on a construction sight adjacent to a helipad recorded on an answering machine in a trashcan across the street. This is Metal, so it's about time the reviewers put on their big boy pants and rated albums for the music, not the fucking production.

Sounds more like what industrial music is supposed to be to me.

Well, comparing to Dopesmoker everything else is pretty short

Electric Wizard's Dopethrone is really great tho.

The actual song is 10:36, but there's a small hidden speech part at around 20 min.

Apparently you just put "dope" in the title and you got stoner metal.

[Cadonica]

Well, comparing to Dopesmoker everything else is pretty short

Electric Wizard's Dopethrone is really great tho.

The actual song is 10:36, but there's a small hidden speech part at around 20 min.

Apparently you just put "dope" in the title and you got stoner metal.

I knew I should've linked Weird Tales instead

[Revanchism]

If you liked that I bet you'll love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLk75fF ... eQ_Qnlpjb7

That's easily the best FFDP song but no way in hell is it comparable to Candlemass
Great song anyways.

Arguably the worst popular metal band in existence. Thanks for sharing, now I will go sanitize myself with good music.

Ghost BC is way worse.

It really has. As much as people hate on Deafhaven, Post-Black Metal has some absolutely amazing albums.

So far I haven't heard one single good post-black metal album. Probably not even one good song.

Not even Sivyj Yar or Sleep White Winter?

[Revanchism]

That desolate and isolated feeling is the reason why I love it, I can listen to it for hours
Just like doom metal.

Have you heard of NKVD? They're one of the few really underground black metal bands that I can listen to for extended periods of time. Their sound is just so powerful that it feels oppressive, something that I can't say I've heard many other bands pull off (not saying they don't exist, though; my foray into really underground stuff didn't last long).

Ad Hominem is also fantastic.
France has great black metal overall.

[Cadonica]

That's easily the best FFDP song but no way in hell is it comparable to Candlemass
Great song anyways.


Ghost BC is way worse.


So far I haven't heard one single good post-black metal album. Probably not even one good song.

Not even Sivyj Yar or Sleep White Winter?

Never heard of those two.

France has great black metal indeed. Nocturnal Depression, Anorexia Nervosa, Gestapo666, Mutiilation etc.

[Revanchism]

I think it really mainly depends on the genre. Black metal, for instance, just wouldn't sound right with the production value of most popular metal bands, and vice versa.

That being said, I have my limits, I personally don't really like stuff that sounds like it was recorded with a microwave in most cases. Probably an extreme example, but I tried listening to Vomir a couple weeks ago and gave up completely because I literally couldn't hear anything besides static or something.

I don't care if it is black metal, if it sounds sooo intentionally bad quality recording on purpose, it's an instant turn off for me, and I don't really care how high quality the recording is in music.

But I also think that an album shouldn't be judged by it no matter what the genre. Especially when the same websites that bash Redeemer of Souls have given Black Metal albums with much lower production near perfect scores. Different genres, I get it, but seriously, have you ever heard Bathory's "The Return"? That album sounds like a chorus of chainsaws on a construction sight adjacent to a helipad recorded on an answering machine in a trashcan across the street. This is Metal, so it's about time the reviewers put on their big boy pants and rated albums for the music, not the fucking production.

Sounds more like what industrial music is supposed to be to me.

Truly great things can be made with raw production.