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THE RED PILL, you will forget about this moment and never remember it again in your life and your life will return back to normal
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THE BLUE PILL, you will be teleported back to Arendelle and you will be in Arendelle forever and will never be able to come back
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:36 pm

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Greater Weselton wrote:I think they don't particularly like each other, but they act respectfully towards each other. This is relevant due to Elsa's practice of magic since magic is a sin in Christianity,


Wouldn't Elsa be the head of the Church, since she's the queen?

Also, you're making a bad impression of Christians here, so could you please... you know.

She would have given up the title of head of the church.
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:39 pm

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Wouldn't Elsa be the head of the Church, since she's the queen?

Also, you're making a bad impression of Christians here, so could you please... you know.

She would have given up the title of head of the church.


You don't know that for sure. What if, like some have pointed out, Elsa's powers are a gift from God and she's an exception to the "No Magic" rule?
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:46 pm

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Greater Weselton wrote:She would have given up the title of head of the church.


You don't know that for sure. What if, like some have pointed out, Elsa's powers are a gift from God and she's an exception to the "No Magic" rule?

The powers would not be magical in that case.
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:48 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
You don't know that for sure. What if, like some have pointed out, Elsa's powers are a gift from God and she's an exception to the "No Magic" rule?

The powers would not be magical in that case.


So how would you know that the other characters just used the wrong terminology when referring to Elsa's ability to control ice?
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:50 pm

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Greater Weselton wrote:The powers would not be magical in that case.


So how would you know that the other characters just used the wrong terminology when referring to Elsa's ability to control ice?

I am just going by what is said by canon sources.
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Postby Bearon » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:50 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
So how would you know that the other characters just used the wrong terminology when referring to Elsa's ability to control ice?

I am just going by what is said by canon sources.


Then why don't you think that kid in Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday version was blessed with a miracle?
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:51 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
So how would you know that the other characters just used the wrong terminology when referring to Elsa's ability to control ice?

I am just going by what is said by canon sources.


Maybe the canon sources used the wrong terminology? How would you know?

Also, like I said, the Bible doesn't apply to fictitious characters and settings.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:52 pm

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Greater Weselton wrote:I am just going by what is said by canon sources.


Maybe the canon sources used the wrong terminology? How would you know?

Also, like I said, the Bible doesn't apply to fictitious characters and settings.

Various additional pieces of media about Frozen refer to Elsa's power as magical.
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:53 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
Maybe the canon sources used the wrong terminology? How would you know?

Also, like I said, the Bible doesn't apply to fictitious characters and settings.

Various additional pieces of media about Frozen refer to Elsa's power as magical.


Fine, but emphasis on my second statement: the Bible doesn't apply to fictitious characters and settings.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:54 pm

Bunkeranlage II wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:Various additional pieces of media about Frozen refer to Elsa's power as magical.


Fine, but emphasis on my second statement: the Bible doesn't apply to fictitious characters and settings.

There is a church there. Christianity exists in that universe.
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:56 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
Fine, but emphasis on my second statement: the Bible doesn't apply to fictitious characters and settings.

There is a church there. Christianity exists in that universe.


But there aren't any crosses. Also, how do you know the Bible was exactly the same in the Frozen universe?

Also, how do you know that all those people aren't wrong when they say that Elsa uses magic? After all, you're also claiming that you're the only one who's correct since you think Hans is good.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:06 pm

Bunkeranlage II wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:There is a church there. Christianity exists in that universe.


But there aren't any crosses. Also, how do you know the Bible was exactly the same in the Frozen universe?

Also, how do you know that all those people aren't wrong when they say that Elsa uses magic? After all, you're also claiming that you're the only one who's correct since you think Hans is good.

The Bible is the same everywhere. Disney itself says Elsa uses magic. They even made a sorceress card for her:http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2014/11/elsa-sorcerers-of-the-magic-kingdom-card-to-be-released-at-mickeys-very-merry-christmas-party/
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:06 pm

Duke of Wesselton was a creepy rapist, btw. Not really a devout Christian.

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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:07 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Duke of Wesselton was a creepy rapist, btw. Not really a devout Christian.

He does appear to somewhat creep on Anna.
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Postby Giovenith » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:08 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
But there aren't any crosses. Also, how do you know the Bible was exactly the same in the Frozen universe?

Also, how do you know that all those people aren't wrong when they say that Elsa uses magic? After all, you're also claiming that you're the only one who's correct since you think Hans is good.

The Bible is the same everywhere. Disney itself says Elsa uses magic. They even made a sorceress card for her:http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2014/11/elsa-sorcerers-of-the-magic-kingdom-card-to-be-released-at-mickeys-very-merry-christmas-party/


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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:10 pm

Giovenith wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:The Bible is the same everywhere. Disney itself says Elsa uses magic. They even made a sorceress card for her:http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2014/11/elsa-sorcerers-of-the-magic-kingdom-card-to-be-released-at-mickeys-very-merry-christmas-party/


Says who? Says you?

Says me.
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:10 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
But there aren't any crosses. Also, how do you know the Bible was exactly the same in the Frozen universe?

Also, how do you know that all those people aren't wrong when they say that Elsa uses magic? After all, you're also claiming that you're the only one who's correct since you think Hans is good.

The Bible is the same everywhere. Disney itself says Elsa uses magic. They even made a sorceress card for her:http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2014/11/elsa-sorcerers-of-the-magic-kingdom-card-to-be-released-at-mickeys-very-merry-christmas-party/


"Also, how do you know that all those people aren't wrong when they say that Elsa uses magic?"

You yourself say that the directors can't be trusted since they work for the illuminati. And no, the Bible isn't the same everywhere. The Catholic Bibles have more books than the Protestant Bibles, and Mormons have the Book of Mormon.
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:11 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Giovenith wrote:
Says who? Says you?

Says me.


So, can you explain why Protestant Bibles don't have the Book of Sirach?

Also, let's drag the discussion back to the movie.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:11 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Duke of Wesselton was a creepy rapist, btw. Not really a devout Christian.

He does appear to somewhat creep on Anna.


He strait up tried to rape Anna's Aunt. #onceuponatime

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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:11 pm

Bunkeranlage II wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:The Bible is the same everywhere. Disney itself says Elsa uses magic. They even made a sorceress card for her:http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2014/11/elsa-sorcerers-of-the-magic-kingdom-card-to-be-released-at-mickeys-very-merry-christmas-party/


"Also, how do you know that all those people aren't wrong when they say that Elsa uses magic?"

You yourself say that the directors can't be trusted since they work for the illuminati. And no, the Bible isn't the same everywhere. The Catholic Bibles have more books than the Protestant Bibles, and Mormons have the Book of Mormon.

The directors can be trusted when it comes to canon stuff.
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Postby Giovenith » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:12 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Giovenith wrote:
Says who? Says you?

Says me.


And who the fuck put you in charge of the laws of the fictional multiverse?
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:12 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
"Also, how do you know that all those people aren't wrong when they say that Elsa uses magic?"

You yourself say that the directors can't be trusted since they work for the illuminati. And no, the Bible isn't the same everywhere. The Catholic Bibles have more books than the Protestant Bibles, and Mormons have the Book of Mormon.

The directors can be trusted when it comes to canon stuff.


> Hans is canon
> Says directors can't be trusted on Hans
> Says directors can be trusted on canon

Aristotle will not be pleased. >:(
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:12 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:He does appear to somewhat creep on Anna.


He strait up tried to rape Anna's Aunt. #onceuponatime

That is only in the show.
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Greater Weselton wrote:Says me.


So, can you explain why Protestant Bibles don't have the Book of Sirach?

Also, let's drag the discussion back to the movie.

I meant they are generally the same idea.
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Postby Bunkeranlage II » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:14 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
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He strait up tried to rape Anna's Aunt. #onceuponatime

That is only in the show.
Bunkeranlage II wrote:
So, can you explain why Protestant Bibles don't have the Book of Sirach?

Also, let's drag the discussion back to the movie.

I meant they are generally the same idea.


Okay. But you'll have to explain your statement that all Bibles are the same, because they're not.

On the RMB.


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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:24 pm

Does Elsa put her feet on her desk?
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