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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:17 am

Had second thoughts about a previous post, and decided to post this one instead:

About Applejack: What makes you people believe that AJ is incapable of lying?

Whenever I see Applejack tell a lie, it's not really for her own personal gain. For example, I highly doubt that AJ would blame somepony else for a crime she committed, that's outright maliciously dishonest, and really out character for her. However, whenever AJ does tell a lie, like in Leap Of Faith , she's doing it because she doesn't want to hurt the feelings of her family and/or friends, or crush their hopes, and dreams. So, whenever AJ lies, she's not doing it out of malice, but, out of 'kindness'. NOT that AJ is right to lie about the false tonic, it's just that she's not lying to benefit herself, or the Flim, Flam brothers, but as to not crush the hopes and dreams of her grandmother.

I think you people are confusing Honesty, with Truthfulness, even though that one cannot exist without the other.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby The Time Alliance » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:48 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Had second thoughts about a previous post, and decided to post this one instead:

About Applejack: What makes you people believe that AJ is incapable of lying?

Whenever I see Applejack tell a lie, it's not really for her own personal gain. For example, I highly doubt that AJ would blame somepony else for a crime she committed, that's outright maliciously dishonest, and really out character for her. However, whenever AJ does tell a lie, like in Leap Of Faith , she's doing it because she doesn't want to hurt the feelings of her family and/or friends, or crush their hopes, and dreams. So, whenever AJ lies, she's not doing it out of malice, but, out of 'kindness'. NOT that AJ is right to lie about the false tonic, it's just that she's not lying to benefit herself, or the Flim, Flam brothers, but as to not crush the hopes and dreams of her grandmother.

I think you people are confusing Honesty, with Trustfulness, even though that one cannot exist without the other.

Meh. You make a point. In fact NONE of the elements have fully lived up to their elements. All of them are capable of being whatever their element isn't. Fluttershy isn't always kind usually because of tough love or reform programs. Pinkie isn't always happy as we see her hit high bouts of depression. Rainbow isn't loyal all the time for instance when Cheese came to town. Rarity is generous however as a designer she can be pressured and stressed into not being so generous. Twilight.....her element isn't a .... I don't know.

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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:57 am

What do you guys think of this Bytecoin thing? I've got 3,100 of them right now.

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Postby Atomosea » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:17 am


Oh, for the love of- Guys, you can try to peddle that stuff around here, but I'm gonna test it and God help me, if the snake oil involved isn't pure, unadulterated Enhydris chinensis, I will take you both to prison.
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Postby Aelarus » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:45 am

Ifreann wrote:"Something" would be getting run out of town because their cider was so terrible.
And it's a bad choice.
And that's what's stupid about the whole thing. They're being travelling salesponies instead of inventors when they'd get far more money from inventing things.
It's really not. "Flim flam" means a scam, swindle, deception, etc. It's as much a writer error for them to be snake oil salesmen as it is for Fluttershy not to be loud and assertive.
It really would be fraud to call fruit juice a painkiller, because it isn't. See: The moral of the episode about dangerous lies that make people feel better.
  • The cider machine produced high quality cider, you do remember that the cider was bad because they wanted to produce more since the Mane 6 and Apples were winning right? That machine shouldn't have failed.
  • It's their's to make, if you want to make a statement against them then I agree with you but it's what they wanted to do.
  • Be that as it may, the brothers weren't characterized as frauds, their original cider machine worked, and they didn't actually do anything dishonest in the first episode. They were simply doing something that they knew would put the Apples out of business, it's not cheating it's simply being business minded. There was nothing under handed about it, they had the ability to produce good cider faster than the Apples, thus they used that ability.
  • Applejack is known for her lies for other people's benefit, the episode moral justifies itself by giving a huge lie that was dangerous since Granny thought she was "young again", this is from the way it was advertised. Having it as a painkiller works since the placebo effect would still be in place, it should just be dirt cheap to be fair (however much it took to make plus a little).



Waaagh Ghazghkull wrote:and Aj never said that it really worked as advertised
And? I agree with that, in fact I think I said that before somewhere. Oh and welcome to the forum!



Eastern Equestria wrote:Applejack's testimonial is, evidently. It's what convinced them that the tonic was A-OK in the first place. She's the Element of Honesty after all.
That's just a fruitless hypothetical, not evidence that the writers erred in any way. Of course Flim and Flam didn't appeal the accusation on a grounds of a lack of pure evidence. This is a kids show not a courtroom drama. There wasn't enough scheduled air time left for a twist like that, anyhow.
  • I seriously doubt that, the crowd seemed more than eager to try the tonic during the initial presentation.
  • It's not a fruitless hypothetical, if you fill run-time to the point that you have to cut something off then you're doing something wrong. I understand it's a kids' show but that doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake, I don't judge too harshly (I believe this episode got a 7.5 from me) but I won't leave an error ignored, it may not be a major issue for the genre but it still is room for improvement.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Frenequesta » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:56 am

Eastern Equestria wrote:What do you guys think of this Bytecoin thing? I've got 3,100 of them right now.


It's another stupid April Fool's joke, I'm not buying into it.

Besides, folks are going to riot over the way Max deals with it at the end no matter what he does.

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Postby Atomosea » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:33 am

Frenequesta wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:What do you guys think of this Bytecoin thing? I've got 3,100 of them right now.


It's another stupid April Fool's joke, I'm not buying into it.

Besides, folks are going to riot over the way Max deals with it at the end no matter what he does.

Octavia

Inb4 every nation on the planet adopts the Bytecoin as their only currency.

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:54 am

Frenequesta wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:What do you guys think of this Bytecoin thing? I've got 3,100 of them right now.


It's another stupid April Fool's joke, I'm not buying into it.

Besides, folks are going to riot over the way Max deals with it at the end no matter what he does.



You're just bitter cause you didn't join in on the stock market fun early enough :p

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Postby Slorch » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:08 pm

Ok am I the only one that thinks that ep 20 had a very poorly presented lesson? especial the whole so you were lieing aj? part. It also had alot of cliches. And what's with all the lyra memes?
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Postby The Time Alliance » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:09 pm

Slorch wrote:Ok am I the only one that thinks that ep 20 had a very poorly presented lesson? especial the whole so you were lieing aj? part. It also had alot of cliches

I still haven't seen it.

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Postby Slorch » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:11 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Slorch wrote:Ok am I the only one that thinks that ep 20 had a very poorly presented lesson? especial the whole so you were lieing aj? part. It also had alot of cliches

I still haven't seen it.


It's will probably be my Bats! or my breezies
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:30 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:What do you guys think of this Bytecoin thing? I've got 3,100 of them right now.


It's another stupid April Fool's joke, I'm not buying into it.

Besides, folks are going to riot over the way Max deals with it at the end no matter what he does.

Octavia


Same.

Also, poor Octavia...*hugs*

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Cadonica wrote:Raritry


I expected Rara trying somethign.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:48 pm

Immoren wrote:

Love it.


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Aelarus wrote:Having it as a painkiller works since the placebo effect would still be in place, it should just be dirt cheap to be fair (however much it took to make plus a little).[/list]

Selling fruit juice as a painkiller really, really isn't okay.


Slorch wrote:Ok am I the only one that thinks that ep 20 had a very poorly presented lesson? especial the whole so you were lieing aj? part. It also had alot of cliches. And what's with all the lyra memes?

Yes.


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Cute and wat indeed.

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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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