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Postby Magmia » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:52 am

Nazi States of Europe wrote:
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Yeah... I've run across too many dancehall songs with lyrics approved by the Westboro Baptist Church.

If it offends you, then why do you listen to it?

Well, it's good to give all genre's a try. Plus Dancehall is a very interesting culture and genre, but unfortunately has been somewhat tarnished by the Homophobic nonsense perpetuated by a lot of the artists. Nevertheless, the music itself is very intriguing

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Postby Zaras » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:58 am

Magmia wrote:
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Yeah... I've run across too many dancehall songs with lyrics approved by the Westboro Baptist Church.

:rofl:

The Christian Dancehall artists don't sing homophobic lyrics (but most of them sound like crap), so it's kind of a matter of picking and choosing. Like 1 artist may sing a few homophobic songs, yet have other songs that are very intelligent. Basically you have to dig through the garbage to find the gold. But I can give you a list of some songs:

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In This World
Delilah
Starlight
Fly Again
Heart Beat
Born and Raised
Overcome
Dying
Changing Times
Settle Down
Star Bwoy (may have homophobia, but I don't remember)


Various Artists
Tamale - Mr.Vegas
Dancehall Takover, Ya Habibti, Need You - Million Stylez
Wipe Those Tears - Jah Vinci
I Can Feel Your Pain - Gyptian



I can give you a lot more, but too tired to list them all :lol: . These are some good songs to start off with though. Just TG me if you want more.


Thanks, man! :D

Magmia wrote:
Nazi States of Europe wrote:If it offends you, then why do you listen to it?

Well, it's good to give all genre's a try. Plus Dancehall is a very interesting culture and genre, but unfortunately has been somewhat tarnished by the Homophobic nonsense perpetuated by a lot of the artists. Nevertheless, the music itself is very intriguing


Thought to give it a chance instead of dismissing it from the start, and it didn't work. (I honestly don't listen to dancehall ATM, but then again I don't listen to a lot of reggae either. Sometimes I chill with some dub, but other times I really wish reggae bands would play their songs faster and make them shorter...)

I mean, hey, I tried to listen to early gangsta rap too, because of its place in hip-hop's historical evolution. (The G-Funk stuff is just laughably bad. NWA have, like, three good songs, and they're the first three songs on Straight Outta Compton. Ice-T's good. Ice Cube between 1990-1992 is also good.)
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Postby Magmia » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:06 am

Zaras wrote:
Magmia wrote: :rofl:

The Christian Dancehall artists don't sing homophobic lyrics (but most of them sound like crap), so it's kind of a matter of picking and choosing. Like 1 artist may sing a few homophobic songs, yet have other songs that are very intelligent. Basically you have to dig through the garbage to find the gold. But I can give you a list of some songs:

Songs by Mavado
In This World
Delilah
Starlight
Fly Again
Heart Beat
Born and Raised
Overcome
Dying
Changing Times
Settle Down
Star Bwoy (may have homophobia, but I don't remember)


Various Artists
Tamale - Mr.Vegas
Dancehall Takover, Ya Habibti, Need You - Million Stylez
Wipe Those Tears - Jah Vinci
I Can Feel Your Pain - Gyptian



I can give you a lot more, but too tired to list them all :lol: . These are some good songs to start off with though. Just TG me if you want more.


Thanks, man! :D

Magmia wrote:Well, it's good to give all genre's a try. Plus Dancehall is a very interesting culture and genre, but unfortunately has been somewhat tarnished by the Homophobic nonsense perpetuated by a lot of the artists. Nevertheless, the music itself is very intriguing


Thought to give it a chance instead of dismissing it from the start, and it didn't work. (I honestly don't listen to dancehall ATM, but then again I don't listen to a lot of reggae either. Sometimes I chill with some dub, but other times I really wish reggae bands would play their songs faster and make them shorter...)

I mean, hey, I tried to listen to early gangsta rap too, because of its place in hip-hop's historical evolution. (The G-Funk stuff is just laughably bad. NWA have, like, three good songs, and they're the first three songs on Straight Outta Compton. Ice-T's good. Ice Cube between 1990-1992 is also good.)

No problem :)

Oh I hated Dancehall when I first started listening to it. Some of it I was like.......really? But it slowly grew on me with its awesome beat 8) . Dub is starting to grow on me.

Gangsta Rap is ok, not a huge fan of its current state though.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:11 am

Wait, Dancehall's a genre? I thought it was a band.....There are seriously way too many genre's.
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Postby Forsher » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:11 am

Zaras wrote:
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I never said that.


Then please elaborate on what's this music-mangling you mentioned?


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Postby Magmia » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:16 am

Corrian wrote:Wait, Dancehall's a genre? I thought it was a band.....There are seriously way too many genre's.

:rofl: agreed

Yes, Dancehall is a genre. It's kinda like Hip-Hop where it's both a style of music and also a way of living.

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Postby Zaras » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:17 am

Magmia wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Thanks, man! :D



Thought to give it a chance instead of dismissing it from the start, and it didn't work. (I honestly don't listen to dancehall ATM, but then again I don't listen to a lot of reggae either. Sometimes I chill with some dub, but other times I really wish reggae bands would play their songs faster and make them shorter...)

I mean, hey, I tried to listen to early gangsta rap too, because of its place in hip-hop's historical evolution. (The G-Funk stuff is just laughably bad. NWA have, like, three good songs, and they're the first three songs on Straight Outta Compton. Ice-T's good. Ice Cube between 1990-1992 is also good.)

No problem :)

Oh I hated Dancehall when I first started listening to it. Some of it I was like.......really? But it slowly grew on me with its awesome beat 8) . Dub is starting to grow on me.

Gangsta Rap is ok, not a huge fan of its current state though.


Me neither. I miss the political elements and "Hey, white people, this is what you're ignoring!" message.
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Postby Magmia » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:48 am

Zaras wrote:
Magmia wrote:No problem :)

Oh I hated Dancehall when I first started listening to it. Some of it I was like.......really? But it slowly grew on me with its awesome beat 8) . Dub is starting to grow on me.

Gangsta Rap is ok, not a huge fan of its current state though.


Me neither. I miss the political elements and "Hey, white people, this is what you're ignoring!" message.

:rofl: :clap:

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Postby Zaras » Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:52 am

Magmia wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Me neither. I miss the political elements and "Hey, white people, this is what you're ignoring!" message.

:rofl: :clap:


"Straight Outta Compton" and "Fuck Da Police" are basically some of the best "PAY ATTENTION, you dumbass crackers!" songs ever made.
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Magmia » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:17 am

Zaras wrote:
Magmia wrote: :rofl: :clap:


"Straight Outta Compton" and "Fuck Da Police" are basically some of the best "PAY ATTENTION, you dumbass crackers!" songs ever made.

I'll have to check those out :lol:

Thanks :)

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Postby Oterro » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:15 am

Zaras wrote:"Straight Outta Compton" and "Fuck Da Police" are basically some of the best "PAY ATTENTION, you dumbass crackers!" songs ever made.

GET UP
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i kinda like the message of Express Yourself too, too bad Dre's a hypocritical piece of shit.

Dopeman's also pretty good

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Postby Cameroi » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:17 am

my taste hasn't changed. it just keeps getting renamed by everyone else. i mean the continual balkanization of genres, which derive from or relate to it. consider tangarene dream the architype and you'll get the general idea, if i'm not the only one still alive who remembers listening to them in their own time.
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Postby Britannic Realms » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:21 am

I started out only liking classical music but then I just kept pilling other genres on top, but then I only listen to certain bands. Basically I used to like classical music, but now I like bands like ABBA, Queen, the Beatles, A-ha, Eurythmics. I like people like Paul McCartney and David Bowie.
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Postby Anollasia » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:37 am

Britannic Realms wrote:I started out only liking classical music but then I just kept pilling other genres on top, but then I only listen to certain bands. Basically I used to like classical music, but now I like bands like ABBA, Queen, the Beatles, A-ha, Eurythmics. I like people like Paul McCartney and David Bowie.

I like ABBA, Queen, and The Beatles, too! :)

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Postby Corrian » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:46 am

Britannic Realms wrote:I started out only liking classical music but then I just kept pilling other genres on top, but then I only listen to certain bands. Basically I used to like classical music, but now I like bands like ABBA, Queen, the Beatles, A-ha, Eurythmics. I like people like Paul McCartney and David Bowie.

So now you like Classic Rock :P

I actually have no idea what A-ha and Erythymics is.
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Postby Oterro » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:23 am

Corrian wrote:I actually have no idea what A-ha

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Postby Kazarogkai » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:16 pm

Zaras wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:It has never changed i have always hated urban, Rap, hip hop


Ugh, I just hope you're not an asshole about it like too many other people who dislike hip-hop.

Meryuma wrote:
What do you associate modern music with?


I can see how stuff like Yannis Xenakis, Pierre Henry and Merzbow wouldn't be up everybody's alley.



Personally I hate pop music because it has little to no artistic depth it sounds nice but that's it it has little to know story and in Rap particular case it just sounds like they are bragging about stuff. So maybe I am an asshole, I dont mind I get that a lot. I want something that when i listen there is actually a story, you cant do that in just 2 minutes. It doesn't even have to have lyrics I want It to tell me a story and have meaning to me, I want to hear the emotion coursing through their voice, modern music has little to no emotion just auto tune and stuff no depth. Also to elaborate on the point of meaning something to me, all rap talks about are sex, drugs, and women those things have little to no importance to me their about as important as a grain of sand for me, I want something that I can relate to. Also I hate dancing and such so those dance songs are completely useless for me.
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Postby Azrael » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:31 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Ugh, I just hope you're not an asshole about it like too many other people who dislike hip-hop.



I can see how stuff like Yannis Xenakis, Pierre Henry and Merzbow wouldn't be up everybody's alley.



Personally I hate pop music because it has little to no artistic depth it sounds nice but that's it it has little to know story and in Rap particular case it just sounds like they are bragging about stuff. So maybe I am an asshole, I dont mind I get that a lot. I want something that when i listen there is actually a story, you cant do that in just 2 minutes. It doesn't even have to have lyrics I want It to tell me a story and have meaning to me, I want to hear the emotion coursing through their voice, modern music has little to no emotion just auto tune and stuff no depth. Also to elaborate on the point of meaning something to me, all rap talks about are sex, drugs, and women those things have little to no importance to me their about as important as a grain of sand for me, I want something that I can relate to. Also I hate dancing and such so those dance songs are completely useless for me.

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Postby Meryuma » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:40 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Ugh, I just hope you're not an asshole about it like too many other people who dislike hip-hop.



I can see how stuff like Yannis Xenakis, Pierre Henry and Merzbow wouldn't be up everybody's alley.



Personally I hate pop music because it has little to no artistic depth it sounds nice but that's it it has little to know story and in Rap particular case it just sounds like they are bragging about stuff. So maybe I am an asshole, I dont mind I get that a lot. I want something that when i listen there is actually a story, you cant do that in just 2 minutes. It doesn't even have to have lyrics I want It to tell me a story and have meaning to me, I want to hear the emotion coursing through their voice, modern music has little to no emotion just auto tune and stuff no depth. Also to elaborate on the point of meaning something to me, all rap talks about are sex, drugs, and women those things have little to no importance to me their about as important as a grain of sand for me, I want something that I can relate to. Also I hate dancing and such so those dance songs are completely useless for me.


So this has no artistic depth?

Also, let's play a game. I'll post a few rap lyrics, and you tell me what they have to do with drugs, or the objectification of women:

My enemies steady hatin waitin for me to take my last breath
No longer flesh, had peace and yet the rest consume and avenge my death
Served my stretch, did my best then it's back to the Lord who made me
All the rest of y'all can judge but it's only up to God to save me


Never was much of a romantic
I could never take the intimacy
And I know I've done damage
But the look in your eyes is killin' me
I guess you're at an advantage
'Cause you can blame me for everything
And I don't know how I'mma manage
If one day you just up and leave


Unsigned hype, front line aeronauts flurry
Zero dark thirty
Zero friends, minotaur fugly stepchild, evoke lunch jumped over plunging necklines
Up beside tongue-tied hungry enzymes
Devolved into mothmen munching textiles


If you look for storytelling and lyrical depth in music and you hate rap, the irony is palpable, not to mention pitiable.
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Postby Zaras » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:52 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:all rap talks about are sex, drugs, and women those things have little to no importance to me their about as important as a grain of sand for me.


Okay, shut up and go listen to Public Enemy right now.

RIGHT NOW.

CURE YOUR IGNORANCE IMMEDIATELY.

Then Paris, X-Clan, Beastie Boys, De La Soul, Wu-Tang Clan, NWA, Ice Cube, Ice-T, A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Tupac's first album.

Then try to tell me rap is all about fucking bitches and getting high.

TRY telling me that "Fight the Power", "Night of the Living Baseheads", "911 Is a Joke", "Dead Homiez", "Straight Outta Compton", "Fuck da Police", "Say No Go", "Ghetto Thang", "High Plains Drifter", "A Year and a Day", "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)", "Brenda's Got a Baby" and countless are other songs are only about "sex, drugs and women".
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Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.

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Postby Lincoltshire » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:53 pm

I didn't really listen to music much until recently. Just whatever my family/friends were listening to.

I have developed a love of classical music since last Christmas.
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Postby Oterro » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:53 pm

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WHERE ROOTS OF ALL MYSTERIES GROW
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Postby Azrael » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:54 pm

Oterro wrote:"yo yo we gettin mad pussy up in this bizzwizzle" - MC Ryde

HAVE SEEN THE TRUTH BENEATH THE GLOW
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WHERE ROOTS OF ALL MYSTERIES GROW
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That's my favorite Death Grips song, and the hip hop song I would've posted if I wasn't too lazy to provide examples.
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Postby Lincoltshire » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:55 pm

Zaras wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:all rap talks about are sex, drugs, and women those things have little to no importance to me their about as important as a grain of sand for me.


Okay, shut up and go listen to Public Enemy right now.

RIGHT NOW.

CURE YOUR IGNORANCE IMMEDIATELY.

Then Paris, X-Clan, Beastie Boys, Wu-Tang Clan, De La Soul, NWA, Ice Cube, Ice-T, A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Tupac's first album.

Then try to tell me rap is all about fucking bitches and getting high.

TRY telling me that "Fight the Power", "Night of the Living Baseheads", "911 Is a Joke", "Dead Homiez", "Straight Outta Compton", "Fuck da Police", "Say No Go", "Ghetto Thang", "High Plains Drifter", "A Year and a Day", "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" and countless are other songs are only about "sex, drugs and women".


Many of these examples (as in, the ones I've heard before) are about gang violence.
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Postby Azrael » Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:56 pm

Lincoltshire wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Okay, shut up and go listen to Public Enemy right now.

RIGHT NOW.

CURE YOUR IGNORANCE IMMEDIATELY.

Then Paris, X-Clan, Beastie Boys, Wu-Tang Clan, De La Soul, NWA, Ice Cube, Ice-T, A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Tupac's first album.

Then try to tell me rap is all about fucking bitches and getting high.

TRY telling me that "Fight the Power", "Night of the Living Baseheads", "911 Is a Joke", "Dead Homiez", "Straight Outta Compton", "Fuck da Police", "Say No Go", "Ghetto Thang", "High Plains Drifter", "A Year and a Day", "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" and countless are other songs are only about "sex, drugs and women".


Many of these examples (as in, the ones I've heard before) are about gang violence.

What's wrong about writing about one's own experience?
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