Star Wars Sequel Trilogy--What would you want to see?

[Zersium]

I loved KOTOR 2, and I thought Kreia was simply annoying as hell. To be fair, a character like her was needed in that game, but she just came off as the developers putting in a mouthpiece to criticize everything about Star Wars (which may have been deserved, but there was little more to her than that). Her motivations barely made sense, she was freaking annoying to talk to, and she seemed to constantly need to shroud everything in mystery that it didn't need.
Also, she was mean to all the cooler characters, like Atton and Brianna, which annoyed me as well.
And a KOTOR movie series...well, maybe in the era, but not with any of the characters. Maybe HK-47.

Kreia was great, she was the deepest character and I always engaged her in conversation in an attempt to find out her motive. And Atton annoyed me somewhat because he was the trope of the 'Invincible Smuggler' in virtually every installment of Star Wars. Smuggler? You'll either go down in an epic death or survive everything. The thing about Kreia was that she wasn't flat. You felt slightly disturbed by her and were always watching your back. Hell, when I first played the game I rarely put her in my party out of fear of being backstabbed.

Atton was just annoying. "HEY, YOU WANNA PLAY SOME PAZAAK?"

Like, five minutes of some bullshit Echani explanation, for MORE pazaak. Carth at least talked to the character in KOTOR 1.

But I'm glad Kreia is the way she is. She's shrewd, mysterious, she's more devious than Palpatine.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Kreia was great, she was the deepest character and I always engaged her in conversation in an attempt to find out her motive. And Atton annoyed me somewhat because he was the trope of the 'Invincible Smuggler' in virtually every installment of Star Wars. Smuggler? You'll either go down in an epic death or survive everything. The thing about Kreia was that she wasn't flat. You felt slightly disturbed by her and were always watching your back. Hell, when I first played the game I rarely put her in my party out of fear of being backstabbed.

Atton was just annoying. "HEY, YOU WANNA PLAY SOME PAZAAK?"

Like, five minutes of some bullshit Echani explanation, for MORE pazaak. Carth at least talked to the character in KOTOR 1.

But I'm glad Kreia is the way she is. She's shrewd, mysterious, she's more devious than Palpatine.

She wasn't IMO, really. Like Atton said, you could tell from a mile off that she was evil as hell. And yeah, she was mysterious in that she refused to answer a lot of questions just for the sake of mystery. She was a good CHARACTER in that she was moderately well-written, she was just annoying.

[Chestaan]

I'd love to see a trilogy based on the Knights of the Old Republic PC games (not the MMO, the original two games). The story in those games were amazing.

[Zersium]

Atton was just annoying. "HEY, YOU WANNA PLAY SOME PAZAAK?"

Like, five minutes of some bullshit Echani explanation, for MORE pazaak. Carth at least talked to the character in KOTOR 1.

But I'm glad Kreia is the way she is. She's shrewd, mysterious, she's more devious than Palpatine.

She wasn't IMO, really. Like Atton said, you could tell from a mile off that she was evil as hell. And yeah, she was mysterious in that she refused to answer a lot of questions just for the sake of mystery. She was a good CHARACTER in that she was moderately well-written, she was just annoying.

The Influence lost started to get annoying at points. Helping the man, not helping him, etc.

All in all, Kreia seemed totally oblivious to the true threat Revan and Meetra both sensed already at this point. She didn't even try to help Meetra. Perhaps that's why she had such a fate during the end of "Revan."

[AETEN II]

She wasn't IMO, really. Like Atton said, you could tell from a mile off that she was evil as hell. And yeah, she was mysterious in that she refused to answer a lot of questions just for the sake of mystery. She was a good CHARACTER in that she was moderately well-written, she was just annoying.

The Influence lost started to get annoying at points. Helping the man, not helping him, etc.

All in all, Kreia seemed totally oblivious to the true threat Revan and Meetra both sensed already at this point. She didn't even try to help Meetra. Perhaps that's why she had such a fate during the end of "Revan."

No, she likely knew everything. She just had her own agenda.

[Indira]

All the KOTOR stuff is generally pretty crappy from what I've seen, but I haven't seen that much to be fair. Hand of Thrawn trillogy, definitely

[Bralia]

Again, a KOTOR movie series. Kreia is the best EU character, hands down.

I also take offense to this.

Darth Bane is my personal favorite character in the entire EU. Although, admittedly, I think only Karpyshyn's first book is good enough to be turned into a movie. And I think would work out well as a stand-alone movie. A Path of Destruction movie would make for a great prequel to both base trilogies.

[Zersium]

Again, a KOTOR movie series. Kreia is the best EU character, hands down.

I also take offense to this.

Darth Bane is my personal favorite character in the entire EU. Although, admittedly, I think only Karpyshyn's first book is good enough to be turned into a movie. And I think would work out well as a stand-alone movie. A Path of Destruction movie would make for a great prequel to both base trilogies.

You can't really compare Bane to Kreia as they are totally opposite ideologies and goals.

Kreia is good in that she is as manipulative as Palpatine.

Bane's quite good too although my knowledge on him is...limited.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

I also take offense to this.

Darth Bane is my personal favorite character in the entire EU. Although, admittedly, I think only Karpyshyn's first book is good enough to be turned into a movie. And I think would work out well as a stand-alone movie. A Path of Destruction movie would make for a great prequel to both base trilogies.

You can't really compare Bane to Kreia as they are totally opposite ideologies and goals.

Kreia is good in that she is as manipulative as Palpatine.

Bane's quite good too although my knowledge on him is...limited.

Bane's just extremely powerful and a Sith Lord who wasn't Stupid Evil.

[Zersium]

You can't really compare Bane to Kreia as they are totally opposite ideologies and goals.

Kreia is good in that she is as manipulative as Palpatine.

Bane's quite good too although my knowledge on him is...limited.

Bane's just extremely powerful and a Sith Lord who wasn't Stupid Evil.

Exactly my point. Kreia was trying to destroy the force (If I'm correct?) not benefit the Sith. She was not really part of the Sith, and not really helpful to Meetra either because if she had trained her for Vitiate's plan, maybe Meetra might not have died.

[AETEN II]

Bane's just extremely powerful and a Sith Lord who wasn't Stupid Evil.

Exactly my point. Kreia was trying to destroy the force (If I'm correct?) not benefit the Sith. She was not really part of the Sith, and not really helpful to Meetra either because if she had trained her for Vitiate's plan, maybe Meetra might not have died.

Kreia easily takes the award for most manipulative mastermind in Star Wars lore, save the Sith Emperor of the TOR game. And you can't overlook the fact that she trained the two most powerful Sith Lords in Star Wars history.

Seriously, I wish the EU would do more with Darth Nihilus. He's not a character that you just banish (he's still alive as his armor wasn't destroyed), he's something you study. There's no other character in Star Wars who has fallen so far as he has. And yet nobody has touched him at all. While I'm partially thankful as that ensures he won't be fucked up, you could do some awesome stuff with him.

[Bralia]

I also take offense to this.

Darth Bane is my personal favorite character in the entire EU. Although, admittedly, I think only Karpyshyn's first book is good enough to be turned into a movie. And I think would work out well as a stand-alone movie. A Path of Destruction movie would make for a great prequel to both base trilogies.

You can't really compare Bane to Kreia as they are totally opposite ideologies and goals.

Kreia is good in that she is as manipulative as Palpatine.

Bane's quite good too although my knowledge on him is...limited.

For the record, I wasn't attempting to compare Bane and Kreia. And yes, what Tiger said about Bane not being stupid is what makes him great. After all, it's Bane's vision, Bane's philosophy that ultimately brings about the rise of the Sith. Palpatine owes his success to that man.

[Icoservmot]

First off, I am not saying George or his kids are going to make a new movie. I just want to see what NS would want to see if they were going to.

With that out of the way (sorry for the ludicrously big text), what would you want to see in a Star Wars Ep.VII/VIII/IX? It can be as serious or as humorous as you want it to be. Just no Lucas bashing, and SuperShadow, if you are reading this, you are not allowed to get an NS account to say "BUT HE IS! I KNOW HIM!" (SuperShadow is not a nation. If you don't know, telegram me.)

Personally, I am actually making a script for fun, about the quarrels between sore losers in the former empire. It will be AWESOME.

Your turn.

I'd like to see an adaption of the Legacy of the Force series.

[Eireann Fae]

Harrison Ford's not to old to do the EU bit where his kids get involved, which I'd love to see, even though I cried more than I should have when Anakin Solo died :(

But yeah, Thrawn, Vong, and KOTOR would all make good series.

[Zersium]

Exactly my point. Kreia was trying to destroy the force (If I'm correct?) not benefit the Sith. She was not really part of the Sith, and not really helpful to Meetra either because if she had trained her for Vitiate's plan, maybe Meetra might not have died.

Kreia easily takes the award for most manipulative mastermind in Star Wars lore, save the Sith Emperor of the TOR game. And you can't overlook the fact that she trained the two most powerful Sith Lords in Star Wars history.

Seriously, I wish the EU would do more with Darth Nihilus. He's not a character that you just banish (he's still alive as his armor wasn't destroyed), he's something you study. There's no other character in Star Wars who has fallen so far as he has. And yet nobody has touched him at all. While I'm partially thankful as that ensures he won't be fucked up, you could do some awesome stuff with him.

From what I read, if Nihilius was able to sucessfully absorb Dromund Kaas and Vitiate, his mere existence would wipe out all life. He is unbelievably way more cooler than Darth Sion, who just looks like he got burnt a lot.

Also we cannot really define Revan as Sith because he never followed the ideology but merely used it to destroy the True Sith, mentioned by Canderous, Revan was always planning to destroy Vitiate.

Without Revan, the Hero of Tython would be dead. After-all, only HIS strategies stopped Mandalore. Not the Republic or Jedi.

I'm still VERY pissed about that. "We would've joined you eventually." Bastila is a stuck-up bitch. The Jedi exist solely to protect the Republic, they do not exist for their own protection. The Republic was in danger.

If Revan hadn't gone to war, Vitate's plan would've worked and the Jedi would've been annihilated.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Kreia easily takes the award for most manipulative mastermind in Star Wars lore, save the Sith Emperor of the TOR game. And you can't overlook the fact that she trained the two most powerful Sith Lords in Star Wars history.

Seriously, I wish the EU would do more with Darth Nihilus. He's not a character that you just banish (he's still alive as his armor wasn't destroyed), he's something you study. There's no other character in Star Wars who has fallen so far as he has. And yet nobody has touched him at all. While I'm partially thankful as that ensures he won't be fucked up, you could do some awesome stuff with him.

From what I read, if Nihilius was able to sucessfully absorb Dromund Kaas and Vitiate, his mere existence would wipe out all life. He is unbelievably way more cooler than Darth Sion, who just looks like he got burnt a lot.

Also we cannot really define Revan as Sith because he never followed the ideology but merely used it to destroy the True Sith, mentioned by Canderous, Revan was always planning to destroy Vitiate.

Without Revan, the Hero of Tython would be dead. After-all, only HIS strategies stopped Mandalore. Not the Republic or Jedi.

I'm still VERY pissed about that. "We would've joined you eventually." Bastila is a stuck-up bitch. The Jedi exist solely to protect the Republic, they do not exist for their own protection. The Republic was in danger.

If Revan hadn't gone to war, Vitate's plan would've worked and the Jedi would've been annihilated.

Yeah, Nihilius is the best completely unknown SW character. Even the Sith Emperor, powerful and intimidating as he is, has a voice. Nihilius just gurgles like a toilet backing up, and somehow, that's way, WAY worse. Not to mention the fact that we know nothing at all about him, or whether there was even anything behind that mask when Visas took a peek. I don't think we'll ever know, either.

And Bastila is stuck up, but Atris is the worst of all (which makes sense because she secretly loved the Exile [if you were a male, which is partly canon], and was intensely jealous/resentful of them for leaving). It kinda makes sense, though - by the time the Mandalorians showed up, the Jedi were pretty soft and complacent - they'd defeated Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma, the fonts of evil within their own ranks, and smashed their empire. The old generation were simultaneously utterly unwilling to go back to war again if it didn't directly threaten them, as they became more inward-looking. They were also completely different from the new generation of Jedi, who wanted to see some action and fight for a noble cause. Bastila, as I understand, due to her Battle Meditation, was kinda the Council teacher's pet, and as such, stood beside the Council completely.

[AETEN II]

From what I read, if Nihilius was able to sucessfully absorb Dromund Kaas and Vitiate, his mere existence would wipe out all life. He is unbelievably way more cooler than Darth Sion, who just looks like he got burnt a lot.

Also we cannot really define Revan as Sith because he never followed the ideology but merely used it to destroy the True Sith, mentioned by Canderous, Revan was always planning to destroy Vitiate.

Without Revan, the Hero of Tython would be dead. After-all, only HIS strategies stopped Mandalore. Not the Republic or Jedi.

I'm still VERY pissed about that. "We would've joined you eventually." Bastila is a stuck-up bitch. The Jedi exist solely to protect the Republic, they do not exist for their own protection. The Republic was in danger.

If Revan hadn't gone to war, Vitate's plan would've worked and the Jedi would've been annihilated.

Yeah, Nihilius is the best completely unknown SW character. Even the Sith Emperor, powerful and intimidating as he is, has a voice. Nihilius just gurgles like a toilet backing up, and somehow, that's way, WAY worse. Not to mention the fact that we know nothing at all about him, or whether there was even anything behind that mask when Visas took a peek. I don't think we'll ever know, either.

And Bastila is stuck up, but Atris is the worst of all (which makes sense because she secretly loved the Exile [if you were a male, which is partly canon], and was intensely jealous/resentful of them for leaving). It kinda makes sense, though - by the time the Mandalorians showed up, the Jedi were pretty soft and complacent - they'd defeated Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma, the fonts of evil within their own ranks, and smashed their empire. The old generation were simultaneously utterly unwilling to go back to war again if it didn't directly threaten them, as they became more inward-looking. They were also completely different from the new generation of Jedi, who wanted to see some action and fight for a noble cause. Bastila, as I understand, due to her Battle Meditation, was kinda the Council teacher's pet, and as such, stood beside the Council completely.

Also, you wouldn't be able to understand him anyway because he only speaks in the Old Sith language.
But yeah though, I like to poke fun at the W40K guys as the only thing they have more powerful than Nihilus is the chaos gods. And no, Nihilus has been stated to lack a body. The body was consumed by the force and imploded it on itself, he poured his soul in his armor and also, it is canon that he is still alive. All he needs is a host to don the armor. Nihilus is like Sauron from LOTR, you do not simply kill him. Even upon destruction the bastard's still alive.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Really? Never looked into that too heavily. Makes sense though.

[AETEN II]

Really? Never looked into that too heavily. Makes sense though.

Hey, at least Lucasarts/Lucas was smart enough to keep a good villain. The only problem is that I don't trust them to use him again.

Really, actual, good fans who know a good character when they see one ought to be in charge of the books, not the crap that's been made for the Vong and such. More like glorified fan fiction than good novels. Again, the only good EU is the Old Republic Era, because it was actually well managed and still is.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Really? Never looked into that too heavily. Makes sense though.

Hey, at least Lucasarts/Lucas was smart enough to keep a good villain. The only problem is that I don't trust them to use him again.

Really, actual, good fans who know a good character when they see one ought to be in charge of the books, not the crap that's been made for the Vong and such. More like glorified fan fiction than good novels. Again, the only good EU is the Old Republic Era, because it was actually well managed and still is.

I liked bits and pieces of the Vong stuff. I really thought the whole damn post-Empire EU (that is, with movie characters and such) should have ended right there, though. Nothing after that interested me. Swarm War was stupid, and LOTF was stupid.
The post-Empire EU started strong, then wrote itself into triteness and boring stories.

[AETEN II]

Hey, at least Lucasarts/Lucas was smart enough to keep a good villain. The only problem is that I don't trust them to use him again.

Really, actual, good fans who know a good character when they see one ought to be in charge of the books, not the crap that's been made for the Vong and such. More like glorified fan fiction than good novels. Again, the only good EU is the Old Republic Era, because it was actually well managed and still is.

I liked bits and pieces of the Vong stuff. I really thought the whole damn post-Empire EU (that is, with movie characters and such) should have ended right there, though. Nothing after that interested me. Swarm War was stupid, and LOTF was stupid.
The post-Empire EU started strong, then wrote itself into triteness and boring stories.

HAI GUIS, LOOK, MOAR COUPS!

Urgh. I really wish that they would pick up and start a thousand years in the future. I've actually had an idea for a while to make a Star Wars RP set thousands of years in the future, which takes place as star wars was originally going to be with the McQuarrie art.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... kvader.jpg

[The Tiger Kingdom]

I liked bits and pieces of the Vong stuff. I really thought the whole damn post-Empire EU (that is, with movie characters and such) should have ended right there, though. Nothing after that interested me. Swarm War was stupid, and LOTF was stupid.
The post-Empire EU started strong, then wrote itself into triteness and boring stories.

HAI GUIS, LOOK, MOAR COUPS!

Urgh. I really wish that they would pick up and start a thousand years in the future. I've actually had an idea for a while to make a Star Wars RP set thousands of years in the future, which takes place as star wars was originally going to be with the McQuarrie art.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... kvader.jpg

Oh, what? Luke nearly getting killed AGAIN by some no name villain/former student of his that has no actual explanation for being that powerful? How thrilling and original (Brakiss/Kueller, anyone?)! Maybe throw in another bizarre superweapon too!
And that RP sounds kinda interesting.

[AETEN II]

HAI GUIS, LOOK, MOAR COUPS!

Urgh. I really wish that they would pick up and start a thousand years in the future. I've actually had an idea for a while to make a Star Wars RP set thousands of years in the future, which takes place as star wars was originally going to be with the McQuarrie art.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... kvader.jpg

Oh, what? Luke nearly getting killed AGAIN by some no name villain/former student of his that has no actual explanation for being that powerful? How thrilling and original (Brakiss/Kueller, anyone?)! Maybe throw in another bizarre superweapon too!
And that RP sounds kinda interesting.

Also, all the 'Stormtroopers' are Jedi Clones and use lightsabers and a laser-resistant shield, plus a sidearm. The other Imperial troops would have normal weapons and such, but Stormtroopers would be actual Shock Troopers.

[Bralia]

Hey, at least Lucasarts/Lucas was smart enough to keep a good villain. The only problem is that I don't trust them to use him again.

Really, actual, good fans who know a good character when they see one ought to be in charge of the books, not the crap that's been made for the Vong and such. More like glorified fan fiction than good novels. Again, the only good EU is the Old Republic Era, because it was actually well managed and still is.

I liked bits and pieces of the Vong stuff. I really thought the whole damn post-Empire EU (that is, with movie characters and such) should have ended right there, though. Nothing after that interested me. Swarm War was stupid, and LOTF was stupid.
The post-Empire EU started strong, then wrote itself into triteness and boring stories.

I completely agree with everything you said there, with the exception of your insult. Don't you dare insult the Yuuzhan Vong, you heretic scum.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

I liked bits and pieces of the Vong stuff. I really thought the whole damn post-Empire EU (that is, with movie characters and such) should have ended right there, though. Nothing after that interested me. Swarm War was stupid, and LOTF was stupid.
The post-Empire EU started strong, then wrote itself into triteness and boring stories.

I completely agree with everything you said there, with the exception of your insult. Don't you dare insult the Yuuzhan Vong, you heretic scum.

Hey, I said I liked the Vong OK!
It really depended on what book/author, though. Allston's stuff is always great, especially the Borleias 2-parter. That was my favorite of the series.
(Also, Bralia, I notice our flags contain similar motifs...)