The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra Thread

[Ameriganastan]

No. I reiterate what I said earlier: I'm allowed to interpret and imagine whatever happens next that I want. And in my mind, Korrasami never came to pass, and Korra's connection with her past lives was restored. Oh, and the Earth Kingdom wasn't dissolved by King Wu.

...Wow. That is an almost impressive brand of fan denial.

[United States of Natan]

No. I reiterate what I said earlier: I'm allowed to interpret and imagine whatever happens next that I want. And in my mind, Korrasami never came to pass, and Korra's connection with her past lives was restored. Oh, and the Earth Kingdom wasn't dissolved by King Wu.

So essentially you just are looking the ending and the creators of the show, sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"

Interpret it any way you want, but I am interpreting my own post-ending. I'm allowed to do it; the creators left it open to interpretation. Plenty of people imagine their own post-endings.

Korrasami was disappointing. Just adding it on at the end felt a little forced. There was far more opportunity for it in previous seasons when chemistry between the two was being explored.

Exactly! they played Makorra a little too strong, and Korrasami not enough. It was too forced.

No. I reiterate what I said earlier: I'm allowed to interpret and imagine whatever happens next that I want. And in my mind, Korrasami never came to pass, and Korra's connection with her past lives was restored. Oh, and the Earth Kingdom wasn't dissolved by King Wu.

...Wow. That is an almost impressive brand of fan denial.

Don't pretend you've never experienced your own fan denial. Everyone does. Its how they cope with the ending, and possible scenarios in the ending they don't like. And everyone has their own brand. Mine just so happens to be recreating the ending.

[Ameriganastan]

Interpreting.


Laerod there wasn't a fan of the end pairing, but he's cool about it. He's not burying his head in the sand like you are, pretending the ending didn't happen.

[Laerod]

Korrasami was disappointing. Just adding it on at the end felt a little forced. There was far more opportunity for it in previous seasons when chemistry between the two was being explored.

Exactly! they played Makorra a little too strong, and Korrasami not enough. It was too forced.

I don't think we're in agreement here. My problem is that it didn't flow from the narrative, particularly given how it most certainly could have based on interactions between the two in previous seasons.

[Ameriganastan]

If I can borrow from my own past experiences with an ending: I hated the ending to Mass Effect 3...like, really hated...okay, I fucking loathed the ending to ME3. But never once did I plug my ears and go "Nope, didn't happen, can't hear you!" That's what you're doing, Natan.

[Laerod]

Laerod there wasn't a fan of the end pairing, but he's cool about it. He's not burying his head in the sand like you are, pretending the ending didn't happen.

Oh, no I am a fan. But I value a plausible narrative over my preferred pairing getting together. If I want to see out of context Korrasami, I'll go to the tumblr tag. The ending felt more like it was done to please the fans rather than because it was something they were genuinely working towards. Or at least a couple minor tweaks to the ending. If Korra and Asami had been a bit more hesitant before holding hands (à la "am I interpreting her signals right?") or something it would have sold the whole thing better. As it stands it felt like everyone presumed it was a done deal and a little voice inside my head screamed "But you haven't established that properly!"

[Ameriganastan]

Laerod there wasn't a fan of the end pairing, but he's cool about it. He's not burying his head in the sand like you are, pretending the ending didn't happen.

Oh, no I am a fan. But I value a plausible narrative over my preferred pairing getting together. If I want to see out of context Korrasami, I'll go to the tumblr tag. The ending felt more like it was done to please the fans rather than because it was something they were genuinely working towards. Or at least a couple minor tweaks to the ending. If Korra and Asami had been a bit more hesitant before holding hands (à la "am I interpreting her signals right?") or something it would have sold the whole thing better. As it stands it felt like everyone presumed it was a done deal and a little voice inside my head screamed "But you haven't established that properly!"

Oh. Well, that makes sense.

[Lost heros]

So essentially you just are looking the ending and the creators of the show, sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"

Interpret it any way you want, but I am interpreting my own post-ending. I'm allowed to do it; the creators left it open to interpretation. Plenty of people imagine their own post-endings

I'm not saying you can't imagine the post-ending, I'm saying you can't change the ending. When push comes to shove, Korra didn't reconnect with her past lives, Prince Wu did decide to dissolve the Earth Kingdom, and the creators confirmed Korrasami.

[Imperial Nalydya]

No. I reiterate what I said earlier: I'm allowed to interpret and imagine whatever happens next that I want. And in my mind, Korrasami never came to pass, and Korra's connection with her past lives was restored. Oh, and the Earth Kingdom wasn't dissolved by King Wu.

Man's just looking at a menu: "I interpret the steak and fries as a ham and cheese sandwich. Because I can interpret it how I want to."

[New haven america]

Dude, it's confirmation from both creators. You denying it is the only delusion here.

Hey, I'm allowed to believe what I want to believe. The show is over; I'm allowed to interpret what I want.

I reiterate what I said earlier: Get over it.

No. I reiterate what I said earlier: I'm allowed to interpret and imagine whatever happens next that I want. And in my mind, Korrasami never came to pass, and Korra's connection with her past lives was restored. Oh, and the Earth Kingdom wasn't dissolved by King Wu.

Do you even know what the fuck the word Interpret means? You're not using it correctly, at all.

[Kralta]

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

I only wish he said that to prove himself in the eyes of his people, he would bring the issue of governance to a vote.

I wish that his character arc had gotten some sort of satisfying ending of any sort, rather than being waived away with a sentence.
Like, if you're gonna set it up, pay it off.
But I suppose investing entire scenes to the characters we've watched grow over the course of the series would've cut into Zhurrick and Korrasami fanservice screentime, and since they already spent like eighteen minutes of the last episode with that pesky "conflict resolution" nonsense they had to make some tough decisions.

Totally agreed. Wu got nothing in the end, and that sucked.

[Jaslandia]

I wish that his character arc had gotten some sort of satisfying ending of any sort, rather than being waived away with a sentence.
Like, if you're gonna set it up, pay it off.
But I suppose investing entire scenes to the characters we've watched grow over the course of the series would've cut into Zhurrick and Korrasami fanservice screentime, and since they already spent like eighteen minutes of the last episode with that pesky "conflict resolution" nonsense they had to make some tough decisions.

Totally agreed. Wu got nothing in the end, and that sucked.

I still maintain that Wu's arc was completed. Wu matured enough to realize that monarchy wasn't what the Earth Kingdom needed, and that he needed to give up his kingly ambitions and hand power to the people. The end goal wasn't for Wu to become a mature king, but for Wu to be mature enough to realize the Earth Kingdom doesn't even need a king in the first place.

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

So where's this new thread at?

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

Totally agreed. Wu got nothing in the end, and that sucked.

I still maintain that Wu's arc was completed. Wu matured enough to realize that monarchy wasn't what the Earth Kingdom needed, and that he needed to give up his kingly ambitions and hand power to the people. The end goal wasn't for Wu to become a mature king, but for Wu to be mature enough to realize the Earth Kingdom doesn't even need a king in the first place.

He didn't need to renounce the throne to give power to the people. He could have created a democratically elected parliament, while remaining king as a figurehead. That would have been a much more satisfying conclusion for the fans.

[Jaslandia]

I still maintain that Wu's arc was completed. Wu matured enough to realize that monarchy wasn't what the Earth Kingdom needed, and that he needed to give up his kingly ambitions and hand power to the people. The end goal wasn't for Wu to become a mature king, but for Wu to be mature enough to realize the Earth Kingdom doesn't even need a king in the first place.

He didn't need to renounce the throne to give power to the people. He could have created a democratically elected parliament, while remaining king as a figurehead. That would have been a much more satisfying conclusion for the some fans.

Fixed. I still feel Wu stepping down completely is satisfying enough. However, everyone has different preferences, so I feel it's a bit presumptuous to say 'the fans' would be more satisfied with a constitutional king Wu, when I'm a fan and I'm perfectly satisfied with the current resolution of Wu's arc.

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

He didn't need to renounce the throne to give power to the people. He could have created a democratically elected parliament, while remaining king as a figurehead. That would have been a much more satisfying conclusion for the some fans.

Fixed. I still feel Wu stepping down completely is satisfying enough. However, everyone has different preferences, so I feel it's a bit presumptuous to say 'the fans' would be more satisfied with a constitutional king Wu, when I'm a fan and I'm perfectly satisfied with the current resolution of Wu's arc.

I think it would satisfy a greater number of fans. I see no reason why anybody would be disappointed by that conclusion, whereas a lot of people are disappointed by the fact that he didn't get the throne as it stands.

[Laerod]

Fixed. I still feel Wu stepping down completely is satisfying enough. However, everyone has different preferences, so I feel it's a bit presumptuous to say 'the fans' would be more satisfied with a constitutional king Wu, when I'm a fan and I'm perfectly satisfied with the current resolution of Wu's arc.

I think it would satisfy a greater number of fans. I see no reason why anybody would be disappointed by that conclusion, whereas a lot of people are disappointed by the fact that he didn't get the throne as it stands.

Because Wu is an idiot that can't sing, let alone rule. =D

[Alaizia]

Generation Xerox?

This can't happen with Azula's character. Allow me to believe that.
Besides, the upbringing that Azula and Zuko had, most probably won't happen again in the Fire Nation's royal family, at least for the next two generations. Things have greatly changed from 174 years ago. Remember what Izumi said?

The bolded was what I was thinking of and it's kind of what made me think of the Promise. Someone like Mako but who feels some sort of connection with the Earth Kingdom/Empire/Republic.

It's an interesting idea. But come on. That person would require an extra motive(s). We don't want Ozai.v2 or Kuvira.v2.

Yeah, I'd kind of prefer further expansion of the original characters on account of their being more interesting than that of LOK. I mean, obviously, the rebuild post-Kuvira would make for a good story (you could even go with a Lake Laogai style political plot) but LOK seems more wrapped up than ATLA. Which is odd, really

I very much agree with you. It's what I was also thinking.

And perhaps a new kickass very unique antagonist with very gray motives and unexpected plot twists. Oh man I'm actually fired up now! (no pun intended)

[The United Neptumousian Empire]

I think it would satisfy a greater number of fans. I see no reason why anybody would be disappointed by that conclusion, whereas a lot of people are disappointed by the fact that he didn't get the throne as it stands.

Because Wu is an idiot that can't sing, let alone rule. =D

A constitutional monarch doesn't have to rule, that's the point. He has exactly what it takes to be a figurehead. He's charismatic, he can console the people, win their support, unite them. And leave the governing to someone who knows how to do it.

[Laerod]

Because Wu is an idiot that can't sing, let alone rule. =D

A constitutional monarch doesn't have to rule, that's the point. He has exactly what it takes to be a figurehead. He's charismatic, he can console the people, win their support, unite them. And leave the governing to someone who knows how to do it.

It's true. You don't see the reason.

[Alaizia]

Since someone else also did it, I will also post some of my favourite Avatar scenes in gifs. I couldn't possibly post them all:

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Since someone else also did it, I will also post some of my favourite Avatar scenes in gifs. I couldn't possibly post them all:

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I wholeheartedly agree with your selections.

[Alaizia]

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I wholeheartedly agree with your selections.

Thanks.

[United States of Natan]

If I can borrow from my own past experiences with an ending: I hated the ending to Mass Effect 3...like, really hated...okay, I fucking loathed the ending to ME3. But never once did I plug my ears and go "Nope, didn't happen, can't hear you!" That's what you're doing, Natan.

Funny... not once did I do that.

Exactly! they played Makorra a little too strong, and Korrasami not enough. It was too forced.

I don't think we're in agreement here. My problem is that it didn't flow from the narrative, particularly given how it most certainly could have based on interactions between the two in previous seasons.

Did I say we were? No, I just agreed that it felt too forced.

Look, I'm not trying to hate on Korrasami, I'm just trying to say that the ending was open to interpretation, and I chose to interpret it as them just being friends. Why do you all have a problem with that? I'll decide what I want to interpret it as, not what you say I should interpret it as.