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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:57 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Yugoslav Memes wrote:If it is not an actual physical threat to their position, there is no reason to suppress it and it can be let free for a time if you like to make mockeries out of it.

There's a reason why people in China shittalk the CPC regularly on Baidu Tieba and there are no retaliations. It is not a physical threat.

Besides, one always agree with mods until they get banned or warned.

I still agree with the mods and I've been warned 4 times. Now I didn't agree with some of those warnings but I moved on and accepted the modly judgment


I think most people that have been here as long as you and post as much as you do have been warned before. I've been warned twice, and I'm a mod.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:00 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I still agree with the mods and I've been warned 4 times. Now I didn't agree with some of those warnings but I moved on and accepted the modly judgment


I think most people that have been here as long as you and post as much as you do have been warned before. I've been warned twice, and I'm a mod.


*Raises hand*

Twice here, and I generally tried to make a point of being as civil as possible. We all lose a bit of control or say something stupid on occasion, though.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:08 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I think most people that have been here as long as you and post as much as you do have been warned before. I've been warned twice, and I'm a mod.


*Raises hand*

Twice here, and I generally tried to make a point of being as civil as possible. We all lose a bit of control or say something stupid on occasion, though.


Hell, even [violet] was warned once.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:12 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I think most people that have been here as long as you and post as much as you do have been warned before. I've been warned twice, and I'm a mod.


*Raises hand*

Twice here, and I generally tried to make a point of being as civil as possible. We all lose a bit of control or say something stupid on occasion, though.

Also, sometimes alcohol is a factor *gulp*.


I'll be the first to agree that a few of the rules are absurd (trollnaming and political nicknaming, in particular), but overall, most of the rules make a hell of a lot of sense. You can't have an interesting debate if everyone ends every statement "BTW, you are a douchebag, and Carthage must be destroyed." A certain level of civility fosters interesting debate.
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Postby Federated Kingdom » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:19 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Yugoslav Memes wrote:If it is not an actual physical threat to their position, there is no reason to suppress it and it can be let free for a time if you like to make mockeries out of it.

There's a reason why people in China shittalk the CPC regularly on Baidu Tieba and there are no retaliations. It is not a physical threat.

Besides, one always agree with mods until they get banned or warned.

I still agree with the mods and I've been warned 4 times. Now I didn't agree with some of those warnings but I moved on and accepted the modly judgment

oh gee, it's not like you got a ban lasting a fortnight for associating with the wrong crowd

without any prior warnings and no record with the mods but hey let's be fucking authoritarian and set a precedent to ban me for three days on any future offences

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Chrinthanium wrote:The fact this very discussion is currently on-going proves to me, at least, the moderators aren't as strict as people claim they are. Simply put, this site is owned by a private individual, guarantees no rights outside of not copyrighting your intellectual property, and other interesting and important things in the Terms and Conditions, FAQ's, and the OSRS, and allows you to use it. This website is open to the public like McDonald's or Sears locations. Yes, you can visit it and visit it often, but there are rules and if the rules are violated you can be asked to leave or banned permanently. Those rules are fashioned by the business and applicable laws much like this website has done.

As has been stated before and will, most likely, be stated again, I, personally, find the rules fairly easy to work within. I also find that there's a lot of consideration given to infractions before the red box appears from the Modly Ones.

If it is not an actual physical threat to their position, there is no reason to suppress it and it can be let free for a time if you like to make mockeries out of it.

There's a reason why people in China shittalk the CPC regularly on Baidu Tieba and there are no retaliations. It is not a physical threat.

Besides, one always agree with mods until they get banned or warned.


right there singy (on the agreeing with mods until you get banned) (because do i look like i want another fortnight-long ban for associating with the wrong crowd) (anyways reploid productions does seem to have a tendency to hand out extremely long bans i've witnessed that first-hand)
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Postby Arridian Islands » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:41 am

I don't want harassment to be allowed I just want the rules to be less strict. And that doesn't even apply to all of the rules. Calling liberals "boring" isn't harassment of any sort.
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Postby Kyrusia » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:54 am

Australian Republic wrote:I don't think there should be a rule against Grave digging, so long as it's reasonable

OSRS wrote:Gravedigging: Posting a reply on a long unused thread. Adding legitimate new material is permitted, but the acceptable age varies from forum to forum. Check the stickies in each forum to determine the standard for what constitutes gravedigging.

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Postby NERVUN » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:38 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
*Raises hand*

Twice here, and I generally tried to make a point of being as civil as possible. We all lose a bit of control or say something stupid on occasion, though.


Hell, even [violet] was warned once.

No one is ever gonna let me live that down.

And [violet] STILL growls at me.
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Postby White Shores » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:43 am

Yup, free speech seems to be a problem in here. Not to insult someone or anything, but you praise the left and you get commended, you praise the right and you get a three day ban. Just noticing.

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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:59 am

White Shores wrote:Yup, free speech seems to be a problem in here. Not to insult someone or anything, but you praise the left and you get commended, you praise the right and you get a three day ban. Just noticing.


And it looks very much like you're posting past ban. Just noticing.
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Postby Arridian Islands » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:03 am

White Shores wrote:Yup, free speech seems to be a problem in here. Not to insult someone or anything, but you praise the left and you get commended, you praise the right and you get a three day ban. Just noticing.

I don't really think it's that, but be rude about conservatives, no one cares, be rude about liberals, GENOCIDE
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Postby Sjealand » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:35 am

Arridian Islands wrote:
White Shores wrote:Yup, free speech seems to be a problem in here. Not to insult someone or anything, but you praise the left and you get commended, you praise the right and you get a three day ban. Just noticing.

I don't really think it's that, but be rude about conservatives, no one cares, be rude about liberals, GENOCIDE

Not really. The majority of the people who get reported or punished deserve it. I always see this argument every time someone is bitter over them being punished. Bring proof to the table that a right winger was punished for something a left winger got away with.

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Arridian Islands wrote:
White Shores wrote:Yup, free speech seems to be a problem in here. Not to insult someone or anything, but you praise the left and you get commended, you praise the right and you get a three day ban. Just noticing.

I don't really think it's that, but be rude about conservatives, no one cares, be rude about liberals, GENOCIDE


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Postby Mousebumples » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:01 am

White Shores wrote:Yup, free speech seems to be a problem in here. Not to insult someone or anything, but you praise the left and you get commended, you praise the right and you get a three day ban. Just noticing.

*** DEAT for posting past ban ***

Your 3-day ban is still in effect. Additional puppets created to bypass this ban will also be DEAT should they post on the forums. If you wished to appeal your ban, you should have filed a GHR.

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Postby Dalvius » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:02 am

Arridian Islands wrote:
White Shores wrote:Yup, free speech seems to be a problem in here. Not to insult someone or anything, but you praise the left and you get commended, you praise the right and you get a three day ban. Just noticing.

I don't really think it's that, but be rude about conservatives, no one cares, be rude about liberals, GENOCIDE

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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:05 am

Sjealand wrote:
Arridian Islands wrote:I don't really think it's that, but be rude about conservatives, no one cares, be rude about liberals, GENOCIDE

Not really. The majority of the people who get reported or punished deserve it. I always see this argument every time someone is bitter over them being punished. Bring proof to the table that a right winger was punished for something a left winger got away with.


And that mods saw both. Sometimes people get away with stuff because we don't see it.
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:06 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Sjealand wrote:Not really. The majority of the people who get reported or punished deserve it. I always see this argument every time someone is bitter over them being punished. Bring proof to the table that a right winger was punished for something a left winger got away with.


And that mods saw both. Sometimes people get away with stuff because we don't see it.

Also past history is a factor. What one person gets a warning for, another might get a significant ban based on their previous warnings.

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Postby Federated Kingdom » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:09 am

Alvecia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
And that mods saw both. Sometimes people get away with stuff because we don't see it.

Also past history is a factor. What one person gets a warning for, another might get a significant ban based on their previous warnings.

yeah, damn kust.

what an evil guy. it's not as if he had no warning record, no history with the mods at all, oh no oh no. it's not as if he wasn't banned for a fortnight for associating with the wrong crowd first offence, oh no oh no.
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Postby Dalvius » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:10 am

Federated Kingdom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Also past history is a factor. What one person gets a warning for, another might get a significant ban based on their previous warnings.

yeah, damn kust.

what an evil guy. it's not as if he had no warning record, no history with the mods at all, oh no oh no. it's not as if he wasn't banned for a fortnight for associating with the wrong crowd first offence, oh no oh no.

What about the guy that stalked Kust everywhere and reported his every movement
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Postby Federated Kingdom » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:11 am

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Federated Kingdom wrote:yeah, damn kust.

what an evil guy. it's not as if he had no warning record, no history with the mods at all, oh no oh no. it's not as if he wasn't banned for a fortnight for associating with the wrong crowd first offence, oh no oh no.

It's not like certain offenses will get you worse punishments. Oh no, not at all! Such an idea is totally preposterous!

key word 'associating with the wrong crowd'

read the entire post before replying
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:12 am

Federated Kingdom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Also past history is a factor. What one person gets a warning for, another might get a significant ban based on their previous warnings.

yeah, damn kust.

what an evil guy. it's not as if he had no warning record, no history with the mods at all, oh no oh no. it's not as if he wasn't banned for a fortnight for associating with the wrong crowd first offence, oh no oh no.


This thread is not here to discuss specific rulings.
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Postby Dalvius » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:12 am

Federated Kingdom wrote:
Dalvius wrote:It's not like certain offenses will get you worse punishments. Oh no, not at all! Such an idea is totally preposterous!

key word 'associating with the wrong crowd'

read the entire post before replying

I did buddy.

But maybe, just maybe, the guy who kept reporting Kust had a bit of a "hidden hand" in the severity of his punishment?
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Postby Federated Kingdom » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:19 am

uh

did the mods just disappear the last two posts or what

oh was it because i pointed out that this thread is to discuss mod strictness oh sorry won't point out flaws ever again so very very sorry mods
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:20 am

Some posts have been removed to the evidence locker due to bad faith posting. Discussion threads are not a place to rehash specific rulings.
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