[Q] - Rebooting threads in which the OP is an Ex-Nation

[Equalsun Empire]

I've been looking throughout Technical and Moderation for awhile now, but I can't seem to locate any rule or guideline to refer to on this subject. If the OP of an RP has gone inactive and members of the RP wish to reboot it, are they permitted to? Apologies if this is specified elsewhere, I simply could not find it for the life of me.

[Reploid Productions]

That gets into murky plagiarism waters, really. Your best bet in such situations is not to reboot from the OP, but to open a new one and create new content. Rebooting directly from the OP is taking their work and ideas, which isn't okay. For instance, if somebody OPed a Star Wars RP set on a planet they created or using new alien races they came up with, that's their work that you really shouldn't be using in your RP without their permission; but nothing says you can't do a new Star Wars RP minus those elements.

[Zeon Refounded]

That gets into murky plagiarism waters, really. Your best bet in such situations is not to reboot from the OP, but to open a new one and create new content. Rebooting directly from the OP is taking their work and ideas, which isn't okay. For instance, if somebody OPed a Star Wars RP set on a planet they created or using new alien races they came up with, that's their work that you really shouldn't be using in your RP without their permission; but nothing says you can't do a new Star Wars RP minus those elements.

What if you credit their work?

[Reploid Productions]

That gets into murky plagiarism waters, really. Your best bet in such situations is not to reboot from the OP, but to open a new one and create new content. Rebooting directly from the OP is taking their work and ideas, which isn't okay. For instance, if somebody OPed a Star Wars RP set on a planet they created or using new alien races they came up with, that's their work that you really shouldn't be using in your RP without their permission; but nothing says you can't do a new Star Wars RP minus those elements.

What if you credit their work?

That still doesn't mean you have their permission, so unfortunately, credit alone isn't going to cut it. =/

[Zeon Refounded]

What if you credit their work?

That still doesn't mean you have their permission, so unfortunately, credit alone isn't going to cut it. =/

Technically legal, as it is not copyrighted, but it could be seen as an ass move.

[Kyrusia]

That still doesn't mean you have their permission, so unfortunately, credit alone isn't going to cut it. =/

Technically legal, as it is not copyrighted, but it could be seen as an ass move.

Credit alone, in as far as the rules and their enforcement are concerned, doesn't cut it.

I hope this answers your question and addresses your concerns satisfactorily.

[Ethel mermania]

What if you credit their work?

That still doesn't mean you have their permission, so unfortunately, credit alone isn't going to cut it. =/

Why is that not considered fair use by the site. There is no commercial gain, and it can in a very broad sense be seen as educational, as while the site itself is for a commercial entity (max's book). There are aspects of role play that are educational in natuel, from learning how to write a good story, to learning proper english and grammer.

lf the issue were "ownership" any star wars RP, shouldn't be allowed as star wars is now the intellectual property of Disney corp, and I am fairpy sure the posters are not paying Disney Corp.any royalties.

I would think requiring a credit, would be fair.

[The Forsworn Knights]

That still doesn't mean you have their permission, so unfortunately, credit alone isn't going to cut it. =/

Why is that not considered fair use by the site. There is no commercial gain, and it can in a very broad sense be seen as educational, as while the site itself is for a commercial entity (max's book). There are aspects of role play that are educational in natuel, from learning how to write a good story, to learning proper english and grammer.

lf the issue were "ownership" any star wars RP, shouldn't be allowed as star wars is now the intellectual property of Disney corp, and I am fairpy sure the posters are not paying Disney Corp.any royalties.

I would think requiring a credit, would be fair.

Lets say you made a really sweet P2TM RP about orange Zombies that want to promote a good diet and bring about World Peace. Its really popular, and you are very proud of your work.
Now imagine that someone else Copy/Pasted your Opening post, and completely disregarded anything you say against it. Now, picture your reaction when you ask Moderation to make them stop using your content when you have repeatedly told them to stop using it and they refuse to come to your aid.

[Zeon Refounded]

Lets say you made a really sweet P2TM RP about orange Zombies that want to promote a good diet and bring about World Peace. Its really popular, and you are very proud of your work.
Now imagine that someone else Copy/Pasted your Opening post, and completely disregarded anything you say against it. Now, picture your reaction when you ask Moderation to make them stop using your content when you have repeatedly told them to stop using it and they refuse to come to your aid.

"Now, picture your reaction when you ask Moderation to make them stop using your content when you have repeatedly told them to stop using it and they refuse to come to your aid." That scenario is very far off. That is not what this is about. This discussion is about rebooting something by a nation that doesn't exist anymore. If the nation exists, you can ask them directly. If they ask you not to use it, you shouldn't.

[Ethel mermania]

Why is that not considered fair use by the site. There is no commercial gain, and it can in a very broad sense be seen as educational, as while the site itself is for a commercial entity (max's book). There are aspects of role play that are educational in natuel, from learning how to write a good story, to learning proper english and grammer.

lf the issue were "ownership" any star wars RP, shouldn't be allowed as star wars is now the intellectual property of Disney corp, and I am fairpy sure the posters are not paying Disney Corp.any royalties.

I would think requiring a credit, would be fair.

Lets say you made a really sweet P2TM RP about orange Zombies that want to promote a good diet and bring about World Peace. Its really popular, and you are very proud of your work.
Now imagine that someone else Copy/Pasted your Opening post, and completely disregarded anything you say against it. Now, picture your reaction when you ask Moderation to make them stop using your content when you have repeatedly told them to stop using it and they refuse to come to your aid.

First off that is not the topic, the topic is abandoned OP's that are in use.

Even your arguement. The answer is, stop being a whiney bitch and Get over it. There is no copyright. Did Einstein bitch everytime someone use. E=MC²? I dont think so. Besides Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

maybe you wrote a great RP, but suck as a thread owner, why should others suffer because the OP of the RP is poor at running it.

Copyright protection I understand, but what we are talking about is a collaborative version of fan fiction, each piece of writing by every poster, changes and transforms the original work into something different from the original. The request being made is the ability to continue it. Either in the current or a new thread.

So in either case, I would think it should be allowable. Of course this is all max's decision as site owner, but this kind of discussion is a topic that interests me

[Euroslavia]

Lets say you made a really sweet P2TM RP about orange Zombies that want to promote a good diet and bring about World Peace. Its really popular, and you are very proud of your work.
Now imagine that someone else Copy/Pasted your Opening post, and completely disregarded anything you say against it. Now, picture your reaction when you ask Moderation to make them stop using your content when you have repeatedly told them to stop using it and they refuse to come to your aid.

First off that is not the topic, the topic is abandoned OP's that are in use.

Even your arguement. The answer is, stop being a whiney bitch and Get over it. There is no copyright. Did Einstein bitch everytime someone use. E=MC²? I dont think so. Besides Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

maybe you wrote a great RP, but suck as a thread owner, why should others suffer because the OP of the RP is poor at running it.

Copyright protection I understand, but what we are talking about is a collaborative version of fan fiction, each piece of writing by every poster, changes and transforms the original work into something different from the original. The request being made is the ability to continue it. Either in the current or a new thread.

So in either case, I would think it should be allowable. Of course this is all max's decision as site owner, but this kind of discussion is a topic that interests me

Emphasis mine, knock it off.

If you wish to start this as a discussion in a separate thread, feel free, but this isn't that discussion thread. The question has been answered, so I'm locking this.