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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:04 pm

Greater Israelia wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:Not you and your logically fallacious and full-of-holes-arguments again.


The liberals and atheists have one main agenda: establishment of a globalist dictatorship. When given the opportunity, they will try desperately to totally annihilate Christianity. There are many false Christians, MANY of them, in liberalism.

The fact that this has to be argued before a court proves my point: there is an agenda. Revelation is coming...


Emphasis mine. As a liberal, I haven't been let in on any main agenda, so this is obviously an inaccurate and insulting generalization.

On the other hand, if our Secret Masters simply hasn't gotten around to informing me yet, please ignore this.

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Postby Kryozerkia » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:40 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Greater Israelia wrote:
The liberals and atheists have one main agenda: establishment of a globalist dictatorship. When given the opportunity, they will try desperately to totally annihilate Christianity. There are many false Christians, MANY of them, in liberalism.

The fact that this has to be argued before a court proves my point: there is an agenda. Revelation is coming...


Emphasis mine. As a liberal, I haven't been let in on any main agenda, so this is obviously an inaccurate and insulting generalization.

On the other hand, if our Secret Masters simply hasn't gotten around to informing me yet, please ignore this.

Sorry, but I haven't heard anything from our Secret Masters either. They are keeping millions of us in the dark. As for the post, ill-informed generalization, but mild at best.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:09 pm

Kryozerkia wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Emphasis mine. As a liberal, I haven't been let in on any main agenda, so this is obviously an inaccurate and insulting generalization.

On the other hand, if our Secret Masters simply hasn't gotten around to informing me yet, please ignore this.

Sorry, but I haven't heard anything from our Secret Masters either. They are keeping millions of us in the dark. As for the post, ill-informed generalization, but mild at best.


Isn't "Ill-informed generalization" plus "Insulting" pretty much the definition of an "All X Are Y" offense, even if the insult is a bit silly?

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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:33 pm

You said it yourself - the insult is a bit silly. We'd rather, I think, focus on the truly not-silly and nasty pieces of work out there, and avoid the potential smacking over mild sarcasm and attempts at satire. Or just pounding on people for being less than bright in their commentary. Comes a point when we get into overmoderating and we can't say anything for fear of causing someone to think they might possibly feel offended, perhaps, if the stars are right.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:07 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:You said it yourself - the insult is a bit silly. We'd rather, I think, focus on the truly not-silly and nasty pieces of work out there, and avoid the potential smacking over mild sarcasm and attempts at satire. Or just pounding on people for being less than bright in their commentary. Comes a point when we get into overmoderating and we can't say anything for fear of causing someone to think they might possibly feel offended, perhaps, if the stars are right.


Okay, but for future reference with this poster, please note that that was neither sarcasm or satire. He or she seems to really mean it, as one can see from the rest of his or her comments.

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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:22 pm

Granted, but it's more the severity that's the issue. Players post what might be categorized as 'stupid stuff' all the time. It's not great, but it isn't at the actionable level of 'malicious stuff' - which was the point I was trying to lamely get at while including other bits for ref. It's been a long day, and I'm afraid I'm not presenting my posts very well - sorry on that.

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Postby Blood Wine » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:28 pm

I know I'm not supposed to post in report threads....


...but seriously this is one of the most civil and gentlemanly threads I've ever seen
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:29 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Granted, but it's more the severity that's the issue. Players post what might be categorized as 'stupid stuff' all the time. It's not great, but it isn't at the actionable level of 'malicious stuff' - which was the point I was trying to lamely get at while including other bits for ref. It's been a long day, and I'm afraid I'm not presenting my posts very well - sorry on that.


Ah. That was me yesterday. I actually had to back off from discussing a couple of topics that I was passionate about because I wasn't expressing myself at all clearly. Understood.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:32 pm

Blood Wine wrote:I know I'm not supposed to post in report threads....


...but seriously this is one of the most civil and gentlemanly threads I've ever seen


Well, here's the thing. This was a judgment call. I disagree with their take on it, but it's their call to make, and I don't find the call to be egregiously unfair, or blind in any way. That's also why I didn't take my own warning past the first appeal: a judgment call, a fair one even if I disagreed with it, and it's their call to make. That's not to say that I wouldn't be a bit more insistent if this were blatant flaming or trolling, but at the end of the day, I can at least see their side of the discussion regardless of whether or not it's one that I share.


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