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[Discussion] "NS Summer" and other assorted silly trivia

Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:29 pm

Rather than derail the discussion thread about trigger warnings, it occurred to me that there are many a moderation-related meme/slang term/quirk that some people may not really know and that everyone else takes for granted. It also would provide ample fodder for some informative and more light-hearted moderation related discussion to round up some of these bits and open the floor to related nagging curiosities. So with that said, here's a few to kick us off, feel free to toss your own in to be poked at and maybe answered. ;)

Q: What is this "NS Summer" I keep hearing about?
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A: Aside from being a meme spun off from Game of Thrones, "NS Summer" and variations such as "Summer already?" and "Sure is summer in here" is a relatively recent term for a phenomenon that the mod team has been aware of since 2003, but really caught the general playerbase's attention around 2012 when the effect was particularly pronounced and enhanced due to the US presidential election that year. It's been known by other names prior to that, mostly along the lines of the "summer nazi invasion."

Basically, during the summer months in the northern hemisphere, most school age children and teens in North America and Europe (the lion's share of our users come from these regions) are on summer break from school. So you get a large number of bored and/or inadequately-supervised kids with too much free time looking to stir up trouble and get attention that find their way to the site to troll, flame, spam, and generally make a nuisance of themselves. One of the easiest ways to do this on the internet of course, is to drop some Nazi-flavored rhetoric, which lead to the perception prior to 2012 of a summertime invasion of nazi trolls. Generic nonsense spam and porn spam are also not unusual, but the wannabe Nazis do tend to stick out more for some reason.

The "NS Summer" period runs from roughly mid-May to the beginning of September, and during that span of time the mods see a marked increase in rulebreaking behavior (in especially bad years, roughly 50% or more compared to the non-summer months.) Most of this tends to come from very new nations rather than more experienced players, and they tend to have very short lifespans, whether due to getting deleted or from being abandoned because the owners got bored. Typically the tail end of August is when it really peaks, as you've got younger students running out of summer break, and returning or new university students going to the dorms and going a little crazy for whatever reasons.

There's a similar spike at the end of December into early January, mirroring the general vicinity of schools taking winter break, but the winter spike is both shorter in duration and much less noticeable in intensity than the summer months. My best guess as to why is that 1) winter break is usually shorter than summer break, and 2) people are busy with the winter holidays and too preoccupied with friends/family/parties and such to have as much free time for troublemaking.

Q: I see it all the goddamn time, but what exactly is "DEAT?"
A: As most folks can probably infer from how the term gets used, it's a piece of slang for "deletion." It can function as a noun or a verb ("I got 10 DEATs on that spammer's puppets!" or "Somebody wanna go DEAT that guy?" for examples.) It's also an extremely old piece of slang, the expression's origins going back to 2003 and the first batch or so of NS mods. If my memory serves correctly, since-retired game mod Neutered Sputniks brought the term over to Nationstates from another site he had been part of, and explained its origin as a typo someone there made when caps-yelling "DEAD!" The expression caught on here, likely due to "DEAT" functioning nicely for both "dead" or "delete" and remains one of the most common expressions for deleting an account today.

Q: Hey Reppy, that thing in your moderator sig, the Kiri-whatywhatbit, the hell is that about?
A: "Kiritateru Teikoku" is better known as the "Sword of DEAT." (The linked image contains both the original 2003 version of the design, and the more recent 2009 revision.) The "reason" many players started to refer to it as the Sword of DEAT instead of the name was that it was supposedly blasphemous to refer to the fictional blade by its true name. I personally suspect that the real reason is nobody wants to be arsed remembering how to spell the bloody thing properly. Hell, I rarely remember the spelling, I just copy and paste the thing when I paste my mod sig into a post!

And for those who are curious "Kiritateru Teikoku" is supposed to mean something to the effect of "Slayer of Nations", though I am quite certain my anime-nerd-and-internet-dictionary Japanese has it at least mildly botched. ;) And for a fun fact: I actually built the 2003 version as a wooden prop; in real life, the blade is about six feet tall from tip to pommel... which, coincidentally, is taller than I am by a decent margin. :oops:

So... floor's open! Any random tidbits you've always wondered about, but were too afraid to ask/didn't know where to post it?

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Postby Drangur » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:33 pm

What about the term "bollox"?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:35 pm

Drangur wrote:What about the term "bollox"?

Haven't personally seen that one get moderation mileage, but I'd assume it's a mispelling of the term "bollocks," kinda similar to saying something is a load of crap, a bunch of bullshit, and other such similar expressions; your mileage may vary by geographic region.
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Postby Mousebumples » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:39 pm

I've also heard the term "bolloxed" used to refer to totally screwing something up. But I don't think that's NS-specific ...
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Postby Die Erworbenen Namen » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:46 pm

Just a quick question: are there any nations of importance/note that have been on NS that you would know of?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:48 pm

Die erworbenen Namen wrote:Just a quick question: are there any nations of importance/note that have been on NS that you would know of?

Tad vague there- do you mean like accounts operated by celebrities, or players who've had a large impact on the game?
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Postby Todlichebujoku » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:55 pm

I always thought Kiritateru Teikoku referred to Reppy herself...
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Postby Die Erworbenen Namen » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:00 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Die erworbenen Namen wrote:Just a quick question: are there any nations of importance/note that have been on NS that you would know of?

Tad vague there- do you mean like accounts operated by celebrities, or players who've had a large impact on the game?


I guess it could go either way, of course. :P
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:03 pm

Die erworbenen Namen wrote:Just a quick question: are there any nations of importance/note that have been on NS that you would know of?

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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:06 pm

Some of those summer posters actually stick around and learn a decent amount :P
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:09 pm

Oaledonia wrote:Some of those summer posters actually stick around and learn a decent amount :P

That's assuming they don't abandon ship or run themselves aground on Kiritateru Teikoku
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Postby Oaledonia » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:17 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Some of those summer posters actually stick around and learn a decent amount :P

That's assuming they don't abandon ship or run themselves aground on Kiritateru Teikoku

I said some. It would be rather naive to say that all summer posters are inept.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:19 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:That's assuming they don't abandon ship or run themselves aground on Kiritateru Teikoku

I said some. It would be rather naive to say that all summer posters are inept.

Most of them just fade away or become lurkers. Some of them become productive users and I started my more active posting right near the start of NS Summer 2013. Before that I was a lurker skulking around.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:53 pm

Die erworbenen Namen wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Tad vague there- do you mean like accounts operated by celebrities, or players who've had a large impact on the game?


I guess it could go either way, of course. :P


I would say that the most feared are the natons of Gholgoth.
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Postby Die Erworbenen Namen » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:54 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
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I guess it could go either way, of course. :P


I would say that the most feared are the natons of Gholgoth.

Why would that be?
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Postby Shazbotdom » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:57 pm

Die erworbenen Namen wrote:
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I would say that the most feared are the natons of Gholgoth.

Why would that be?

Go read the theads started by nations such as Automagfreed, The Kraven Corporation and others in that region. I wouldn't want to get on their bad side, they basically torture anyone in their opponents nation. Army, Politician, civilian. ALL is fair game to them.
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Postby Die Erworbenen Namen » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:00 pm

Oh...

Oh dear...

That is EXACTLY what makes me want to start a crusade against them...
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Postby Shazbotdom » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:03 pm

Die erworbenen Namen wrote:Oh...

Oh dear...

That is EXACTLY what makes me want to start a crusade against them...

Most f them are older nations than me. And they are among some of the best RPers in the game. I doubt you would stand a chance against them. Honestly.
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Postby Die Erworbenen Namen » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:04 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Die erworbenen Namen wrote:Oh...

Oh dear...

That is EXACTLY what makes me want to start a crusade against them...

Most f them are older nations than me. And they are among some of the best RPers in the game. I doubt you would stand a chance against them. Honestly.


It all depends, but that's a topic for another time, another place. ;)
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:15 pm

You know, just to ask a question, why exactly do some mods (like Reploid, and I believe NERVUN and Dread Lady Nathicana have done it on a few occasions) almost always include some some random image (like Reploid Production's anime girl holding a sword or hammer) when they post a warning/ban? Is there any particular story or reason behind certain mods doing that?

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Postby The Risen Jaguar Warriors » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:25 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:You know, just to ask a question, why exactly do some mods (like Reploid, and I believe NERVUN and Dread Lady Nathicana have done it on a few occasions) almost always include some some random image (like Reploid Production's anime girl holding a sword or hammer) when they post a warning/ban? Is there any particular story or reason behind certain mods doing that?

I'm pretty sure it's their moderation signature.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:04 am

The Risen Jaguar Warriors wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:You know, just to ask a question, why exactly do some mods (like Reploid, and I believe NERVUN and Dread Lady Nathicana have done it on a few occasions) almost always include some some random image (like Reploid Production's anime girl holding a sword or hammer) when they post a warning/ban? Is there any particular story or reason behind certain mods doing that?

I'm pretty sure it's their moderation signature.

Generally, it's just a way to sign off that "BTW guys, super serious official mod post here." I use the 3-D model I made of my Megaman fancharacter Firefury for my moddy avatar, and I actually made all of my images myself. (Including the "Summer is coming" meme up there in the OP. ;) ) The sword is the Sword of DEAT, and the similarly absurd hammer is the Banhammer.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:11 am

Reploid Productions wrote:Generally, it's just a way to sign off that "BTW guys, super serious official mod post here." I use the 3-D model I made of my Megaman fancharacter Firefury for my moddy avatar, and I actually made all of my images myself. (Including the "Summer is coming" meme up there in the OP. ;) ) The sword is the Sword of DEAT, and the similarly absurd hammer is the Banhammer.

So, as I understand it, you use it to say "I'm super cereal, man! Why aren't you taking me cereal? I'm being super cereal! This is cereal business!" That's nice to know; didn't know that before today.

Either way, nice job making your OC model. Looks nice.

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Postby Port blood » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:28 am

Man the cannons!

cant we just close down registrations during that period? :P



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Postby The Rhomaion » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:15 am

Reploid Productions wrote:So... floor's open! Any random tidbits you've always wondered about, but were too afraid to ask/didn't know where to post it?

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Yeah, quick question: If the (mightily impressive) Kiritateru Teikoku got a revised design in 2009, why does the figure in your mod-sig image still wield the 2003 version? I'm just curious as to the reasoning. :P
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