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[Suggestion] RMB mute

Postby North Krualstiken » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:59 pm

We all know that suppressing posts is tedius, and sometimes the suppressed isn't in need of a ban, but they need to be off the RMB for a while; sometimes a flame war is started, and you want to enforce them going to telegram without cluttering up the RMB. What I'm proposing is a system where, on a customizable timer, someone may be muted from that regions RMB by an officer with Communications permissions. This mute can be cancelled at any time by an officer with the Communications permission.

An an alternate note, instead of manually typing in times, we have it ties it to the update cycle. Have mutes expire the same way bans do in warzones. (North Campell Nation)

Possibly a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions. (The Forsworn Knights)

Perhaps RMB bans could just automatically suppress all posts made by the banned person? (Drayxaso)

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Postby Arceland » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:37 pm

I like

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Postby Novyy SSSR Tomskaya » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:47 pm

A good suggestion, any other place besides NS or on the Web itself and id say this is censorship.

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Postby North Korvakia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:49 pm

Supported

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Postby Cleoye » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:49 pm

Sounds like a very good idea.
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Postby The Shadow Republik » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:53 pm

This is a great idea but there should be safeguards in place so someone couldent abuse it
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Postby South Estarieken » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:54 pm

The shadow republik wrote:This is a great idea but there should be safeguards in place so someone couldent abuse it

Of course, it would have to cost some influence to do. Proportional to time RMB banned maybe?

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Postby Novyy SSSR Tomskaya » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:54 pm

The shadow republik wrote:This is a great idea but there should be safeguards in place so someone couldent abuse it

Yeah, like maybe a limit to 10 people a day for each mod?

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Postby North Campbell Nation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:57 pm

Customizable timer seems needlessly complicated. I'd just have a list similar to a regional banlist. If an RO wanted to impose a time-specific senstence, they could do it manually the same way many regions have manually run time limits on bans. A similar limit on the list size would serve as a reasonable check on power.

Of course, if automatic time-limitations are a must, I'd recommend tying it to the update cycle. Have mutes expire the same way bans do in warzones.
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Postby South Estarieken » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:00 pm

North Campbell Nation wrote:Customizable timer seems needlessly complicated. I'd just have a list similar to a regional banlist. If an RO wanted to impose a time-specific senstence, they could do it manually the same way many regions have manually run time limits on bans. A similar limit on the list size would serve as a reasonable check on power.

Of course, if automatic time-limitations are a must, I'd recommend tying it to the update cycle. Have mutes expire the same way bans do in warzones.

I said timed, because there are situations when the ability to perm RMB mute someone can be greatly abused.

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Postby Novskya » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:01 pm

North Krualstiken wrote:We all know that suppressing posts is tedius, and sometimes the suppressed isn't in need of a ban, but they need to be off the RMB for a while; sometimes a flame war is started, and you want to enforce them going to telegram without cluttering up the RMB. What I'm proposing is a system where, on a customizable timer, someone may be muted from that regions RMB by an officer with Communications permissions. This mute can be cancelled at any time by an officer with the Communications permission.

Add anything you think might be necessary in a post below. :)

Sounds radical

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Postby The Great Devourer of All » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:03 pm

Definitely supported.
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:04 pm

The shadow republik wrote:This is a great idea but there should be safeguards in place so someone couldent abuse it

By that logic, we should also remove post suppression and ejections/bans from region controls as well. I feel like RMB Mutes could be useful, although I think there should be a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions like Christmas simply because they muted everyone and prevented them from posting on the RMB, their only medium of communication.
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Postby Novyy SSSR Tomskaya » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:09 pm

But anything aside from this
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Postby Froiiland » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:11 pm

Would save delegates or founders alot of time. Especially with those trouble-some folk, you get me?

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Postby Froiiland » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:12 pm

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
The shadow republik wrote:This is a great idea but there should be safeguards in place so someone couldn't abuse it

By that logic, we should also remove post suppression and ejections/bans from region controls as well. I feel like RMB Mutes could be useful, although I think there should be a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions like Christmas simply because they muted everyone and prevented them from posting on the RMB, their only medium of communication.


Same here. The only problem I could see would be like you mentioned before, raiders. I mean they could telegram each other to communicate but other then that the RMB is the only thing useful.

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Postby The Northern Chinese Provinces » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:13 pm

I would definitely support this.
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Postby The Northern Chinese Provinces » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:15 pm

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
The shadow republik wrote:This is a great idea but there should be safeguards in place so someone couldent abuse it

By that logic, we should also remove post suppression and ejections/bans from region controls as well. I feel like RMB Mutes could be useful, although I think there should be a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions like Christmas simply because they muted everyone and prevented them from posting on the RMB, their only medium of communication.

I would imagine that there wouldn't be a way to mute the entire region--that would be simply ridiculous. There would be no point to silencing the entire RMB.
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Postby Novskya » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:15 pm

North Krualstiken wrote:We all know that suppressing posts is tedius, and sometimes the suppressed isn't in need of a ban, but they need to be off the RMB for a while; sometimes a flame war is started, and you want to enforce them going to telegram without cluttering up the RMB. What I'm proposing is a system where, on a customizable timer, someone may be muted from that regions RMB by an officer with Communications permissions. This mute can be cancelled at any time by an officer with the Communications permission.

An an alternate note, instead of manually typing in times, we have it ties it to the update cycle. Have mutes expire the same way bans do in warzones. (North Campell Nation)

Possibly a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions. (The Forsworn Knights)
Add anything you think might be necessary in a post below. :)

EDITS: Added suggestions

it looks pretty radical
Although it can be abused, i think it could be a nice addition. A temporary ban on the rmb (although you can always switch to a puppet lol)
It can be abused, but so can ejecting and suppression (war of suppression lol)
Something that I'll like to add is the ability to do a "temporary rmb ban all" thing. Also being able to select which nation to ban on the admin page.

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Postby South Estarieken » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:17 pm

The Northern Chinese Provinces wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:By that logic, we should also remove post suppression and ejections/bans from region controls as well. I feel like RMB Mutes could be useful, although I think there should be a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions like Christmas simply because they muted everyone and prevented them from posting on the RMB, their only medium of communication.

I would imagine that there wouldn't be a way to mute the entire region--that would be simply ridiculous. There would be no point to silencing the entire RMB.

Which is why I suggested it take influence in correlation to the time RMB banned.

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Postby The Northern Chinese Provinces » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:18 pm

Novskya wrote:
North Krualstiken wrote:We all know that suppressing posts is tedius, and sometimes the suppressed isn't in need of a ban, but they need to be off the RMB for a while; sometimes a flame war is started, and you want to enforce them going to telegram without cluttering up the RMB. What I'm proposing is a system where, on a customizable timer, someone may be muted from that regions RMB by an officer with Communications permissions. This mute can be cancelled at any time by an officer with the Communications permission.

An an alternate note, instead of manually typing in times, we have it ties it to the update cycle. Have mutes expire the same way bans do in warzones. (North Campell Nation)

Possibly a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions. (The Forsworn Knights)
Add anything you think might be necessary in a post below. :)

EDITS: Added suggestions

it looks pretty radical
Although it can be abused, i think it could be a nice addition. A temporary ban on the rmb (although you can always switch to a puppet lol)
It can be abused, but so can ejecting and suppression (war of suppression lol)
Something that I'll like to add is the ability to do a "temporary rmb ban all" thing. Also being able to select which nation to ban on the admin page.

Why would you add an ability to mute the entire rmb temporarily? That makes no sense to me, because it would ban a lot of innocents in the process.
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:21 pm

The Northern Chinese Provinces wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:By that logic, we should also remove post suppression and ejections/bans from region controls as well. I feel like RMB Mutes could be useful, although I think there should be a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions like Christmas simply because they muted everyone and prevented them from posting on the RMB, their only medium of communication.

I would imagine that there wouldn't be a way to mute the entire region--that would be simply ridiculous. There would be no point to silencing the entire RMB.

In a smaller region one could simply eject + ban an entire region, suppress its RMB, delete its WFE, and remove its tags/flag. That can be repaired easily, but it is very difficult to co-ordinate the reboot if everyone is muted. This is why I want a delay.
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Postby Drayxaso » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:51 pm

North Krualstiken wrote:We all know that suppressing posts is tedius, and sometimes the suppressed isn't in need of a ban, but they need to be off the RMB for a while; sometimes a flame war is started, and you want to enforce them going to telegram without cluttering up the RMB. What I'm proposing is a system where, on a customizable timer, someone may be muted from that regions RMB by an officer with Communications permissions. This mute can be cancelled at any time by an officer with the Communications permission.

An an alternate note, instead of manually typing in times, we have it ties it to the update cycle. Have mutes expire the same way bans do in warzones. (North Campell Nation)

Possibly a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions. (The Forsworn Knights)
Add anything you think might be necessary in a post below. :)

EDITS: Added suggestions

Because you wouldn't stop advertising this thread: :p
This sounds like a good concept, and would be extremely useful for enacting regional rules. The only thing I'm worried about that hasn't been addressed is dictators using this and suppression together to silence people, but I don't really now how we would go about protecting against that.
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Postby South Estarieken » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:53 pm

Drayxaso wrote:
North Krualstiken wrote:We all know that suppressing posts is tedius, and sometimes the suppressed isn't in need of a ban, but they need to be off the RMB for a while; sometimes a flame war is started, and you want to enforce them going to telegram without cluttering up the RMB. What I'm proposing is a system where, on a customizable timer, someone may be muted from that regions RMB by an officer with Communications permissions. This mute can be cancelled at any time by an officer with the Communications permission.

An an alternate note, instead of manually typing in times, we have it ties it to the update cycle. Have mutes expire the same way bans do in warzones. (North Campell Nation)

Possibly a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions. (The Forsworn Knights)
Add anything you think might be necessary in a post below. :)

EDITS: Added suggestions

Because you wouldn't stop advertising this thread: :p
This sounds like a good concept, and would be extremely useful for enacting regional rules. The only thing I'm worried about that hasn't been addressed is dictators using this and suppression together to silence people, but I don't really now how we would go about protecting against that.

As far as I see it, dictators would already just suppress posts. This is just another means to an end, and helpful for democratic and other regions. I don't see why people would stick around in a dictatorship, anyways.

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Postby Triporea » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:58 pm

North Krualstiken wrote:We all know that suppressing posts is tedius, and sometimes the suppressed isn't in need of a ban, but they need to be off the RMB for a while; sometimes a flame war is started, and you want to enforce them going to telegram without cluttering up the RMB. What I'm proposing is a system where, on a customizable timer, someone may be muted from that regions RMB by an officer with Communications permissions. This mute can be cancelled at any time by an officer with the Communications permission.

An an alternate note, instead of manually typing in times, we have it ties it to the update cycle. Have mutes expire the same way bans do in warzones. (North Campell Nation)

Possibly a delay before WADs can use it (A week?) to prevent a perfectly legitimate Raid from completely decimating small founderless regions. (The Forsworn Knights)
Add anything you think might be necessary in a post below. :)

EDITS: Added suggestions


Heyyyyyyy that's pretty good~

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