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The Archregimancy
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Democratic Socialists

Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:03 am

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:Why does that link think I'm in Wichita, Kansas? I most certainly am not.


It's a well-known issue in the United States relating to how digital mapping company MaxMind set up the IP mapping process in 2002.

IP mapping isn’t an exact science. At its most precise, an IP address can be mapped to a house. (You can try to map your own IP address here.) At its least precise, it can be mapped only to a country. In order to deal with that imprecision, MaxMind decided to set default locations at the city, state and country level for when it knows only roughly where the IP address lives. If it knows only that an IP address is somewhere in the U.S., and can’t figure out anything more about where it is, it will point to the center of the country.

As any geography nerd knows, the precise center of the United States is in northern Kansas, near the Nebraska border. Technically, the latitudinal and longitudinal coordinates of the center spot are 39°50'N, 98°35'W. In digital maps, that number is an ugly one: 39.8333333, -98.585522. So back in 2002, when MaxMind was first choosing the default point on its digital map for the center of the U.S., it decided to clean up the measurements and go with a simpler nearby latitude and longitude: 38°N, 97°W or 38.0000, -97.0000.

As a result, for the past 14 years, every time MaxMind's database has been queried about the location of an IP address in the United States it can't identify, it has spat out the default location of a spot two hours away from the geographic center of the country. This happens a lot: 5,000 companies rely on MaxMind's IP-mapping information, and in all, there are now more than 600 million IP addresses associated with that default coordinate. If any of those IP addresses is used by a scammer, or a computer thief, or a suicidal person contacting a help line, MaxMind's database places it at the same spot: 38.0000,-97.0000.



The center of the United States is therefore defined by IP mapping software as a small town called Potwin in Kansas - the closest major urban centre just happens to be Wichita.

Therefore, US IP address mapping software sometimes defaults to Wichita, regardless of where an individual is actually based.

As a byproduct, the owners of a family farm 4 miles outside of Potwin have inadvertently found themselves the subject of any number of cybercrime investigations:

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Drawkland
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Postby Drawkland » Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:47 am

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Oh wait, you're not real human? :p

Real humans go interact.

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*chitters*

props for xkcd link
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The Islands of Versilia
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:07 am

Nooooo....


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Uqbaristan
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Postby Uqbaristan » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:41 am

Darn well hopefully everything's alright after it comes back up.

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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:00 am

I hope I wake up after the downtime or else I'm screwed.
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Postby Enfaru » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:48 am

New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:I hope I wake up after the downtime or else I'm screwed.


You'd be either in a coma or dead.
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Postby Deamonopolis » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:50 am

I demand a refund. My lawyer is out for blood tonight. (He's a vampire!)

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Ebnious
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Ebnious » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:10 am

Nooooooooooooo.......
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Minoa
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Postby Minoa » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:20 am

[violet] wrote:…In particular, it is to let us move off a server that has experienced 13 hardware failures to date…

What was the time span in which the 13 hardware failures occurred?

Secondly, is NationStates moving host providers, or is it still self-hosted?

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Postby Esparmuran » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:22 am

Three hours!? Well, hehe, I know what I'm gonna do in that time...

Fuckin' nothing.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:27 am

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Try googling for 'sea slug' pictures as well: Some of them are pretty spectacular!
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Postby The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:33 am

Drawkland wrote:

props for xkcd link

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Postby Luziyca » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:05 am

Reploid Productions wrote:Just a note about "Why's it showing me in Kansas?!": This would be why.

Jesus Christ.

At least that finally got sorted out.
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Postby Ivelboria » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:25 am

NS will be up at 5AM (in my area). :(

At least it is good timing for sleep! *Sighs*
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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:28 am

Ivelboria wrote:NS will be up at 5AM (in my area). :(

At least it is good timing for sleep! *Sighs*

Ah. NS will be down for me from 7 pm to 10 pm. Will probably spend it on IIwiki and my regional IRC. Or watching Star Trek: TNG.
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Greater Orensta
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Postby Greater Orensta » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:34 pm

Midnight?! I'm too lazy to stay up to get posting done
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Revall
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Postby Revall » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:48 pm

psshh take it down for 4 hours that'll show the addicts :lol2:
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Cormactopia II
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Ex-Nation

Postby Cormactopia II » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:12 pm

Will this cause a shuffle in the order of update? I know that has occasionally happened in the past with server changes. Thanks!
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Bedetopia
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Bedetopia » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:19 pm

That's probably going to mess with the issue timers even more...

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Outer Sparta
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:53 pm

Time to do homework. Yippee!
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The Turkish State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Turkish State » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:02 pm

Damnit
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Wallenburg
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:04 pm

Did you start this early? It's 2:04 PDT and I can't get on gameside.
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Eastfield Lodge
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Eastfield Lodge » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:07 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Did you start this early? It's 2:04 PDT and I can't get on gameside.

According to the OP, the forums are also down during the downtime, so maybe not.
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Wallenburg
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:11 pm

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Did you start this early? It's 2:04 PDT and I can't get on gameside.

According to the OP, the forums are also down during the downtime, so maybe not.

Huh. So something crashed the game side just before everything is supposed to go down.

I guess you really do need some downtime, NationStates! :p
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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