Change "of" to "of the"

[Mousebumples]

Would it be possible to do so?
It would be really nice.

[The Gipper]

Some of us would have two the-s then. And many many nations which do not need a "the" would have one. We wouldn't want it to sound like The United States of the America.

Just make a puppet whose name starts with "The".

[Mousebumples]

Additionally, it may result in some confusion/impersonation issues.

Example: Nation "Gipper" and nation "The Gipper" If they use the same pretitle and similar flags, they could appear to be the same nation in some ways.

[Trotterdam]

Just make a puppet whose name starts with "The".

It would be nice to be able to make the "the" lowercase, though.

[Hydraic Empire]

Additionally, it may result in some confusion/impersonation issues.

Example: Nation "Gipper" and nation "The Gipper" If they use the same pretitle and similar flags, they could appear to be the same nation in some ways.

I see your point, however I wish this "of the" was implemented. Perhaps we just get rid of the words "the" and "of" in the pretitle? Then we'd could just manually add those words, if we wished. But Gipper and The Gipper would really seem the same no matter what we do....

[Dretan Empire]

Some of us would have two the-s then. And many many nations which do not need a "the" would have one. We wouldn't want it to sound like The United States of the America.

Just make a puppet whose name starts with "The".

Yes I understand what you mean my thought is that you can decide either of, of the or something.

[Hydraic Empire]

Additionally, it may result in some confusion/impersonation issues.

Example: Nation "Gipper" and nation "The Gipper" If they use the same pretitle and similar flags, they could appear to be the same nation in some ways.

I see your point, however I wish this "of the" was implemented. Perhaps we just get rid of the words "the" and "of" in the pretitle? Then we'd could just manually add those words, if we wished. But Gipper and The Gipper would really seem the same no matter what we do....

Branching off of this, if this happened it would make pretitles so much more creative; for example, instead of my pretitle reading (for example) "The Imperial of Hydraic Empire" it would be "Imperial Hydraic Empire." This would clean up some of the grammar mistakes, especially when a nation (such as myself) creates a nation without understanding what the pretitle is and how it works.

[Dretan Empire]

I still hope this will happen one day.

[Hydraic Empire]

I see your point, however I wish this "of the" was implemented. Perhaps we just get rid of the words "the" and "of" in the pretitle? Then we'd could just manually add those words, if we wished. But Gipper and The Gipper would really seem the same no matter what we do....

Branching off of this, if this happened it would make pretitles so much more creative; for example, instead of my pretitle reading (for example) "The Imperial of Hydraic Empire" it would be "Imperial Hydraic Empire." This would clean up some of the grammar mistakes, especially when a nation (such as myself) creates a nation without understanding what the pretitle is and how it works.

I standby my previous decision

[Bruination]

Sorry if this is considered a separate topic, but whenever a nation name begins with "The[space]" or "A[space]", shouldn't the T or A be rendered lowercase except when it begins a sentence, like with real life nations that typically use an article? Can this be done, or would it be an awful headache?

[Almonaster Nuevo]

Sorry if this is considered a separate topic, but whenever a nation name begins with "The[space]" or "A[space]", shouldn't the T or A be rendered lowercase except when it begins a sentence, like with real life nations that typically use an article? Can this be done, or would it be an awful headache?

The only RL nation I know of where the article is part of the official name is The Gambia. A capital 'T' is generally used when the name is written. For example...

This small reserve is a kaleidoscope of The Gambia’s varied landscape and birdlife.

[Jumhuriyah Hindustan]

It should be a customizable field.

[Carartia]

In a perfect world, you would write Republic of for something like Poland in settings, and Republic of the for something like the smaller Congo. Mods, please consider it. Max Barry, that's you, also.

[Carartia]

In a perfect world, you would write Republic of for something like Poland in settings, and Republic of the for something like the smaller Congo. Mods, please consider it. Max Barry, that's you, also.

What I mean is instead of the "of" already being there, it should just be entered in the pretitle.

[The Brown Bear]

Sorry if this is considered a separate topic, but whenever a nation name begins with "The[space]" or "A[space]", shouldn't the T or A be rendered lowercase except when it begins a sentence, like with real life nations that typically use an article? Can this be done, or would it be an awful headache?

The only RL nation I know of where the article is part of the official name is The Gambia. A capital 'T' is generally used when the name is written. For example...

This small reserve is a kaleidoscope of The Gambia’s varied landscape and birdlife.

I said "real life nations that typically use an article"--common names, to elaborate. The Netherlands, the Philippines, the UK, the US, the DRC, etc. I didn't say official.

[The Brown Bear]

Oops, I meant to post the above as Bruination. This is a puppet thereof.

(Edit to avoid triple posting:)
To reiterate my case, look at a nation name like the DRC. The Democratic Republic of the Congo. It's very much like NS's category+of+name format. But on NS, you have no choice to format a nation in this exact way; you can only do The Democratic Republic of The Congo. I'm just advocating more control over this. Keep the article as part of the title instead of an alternative to "of", to save confusion, but allow an option to have it in lowercase when it doesn't begin a sentence?

[Arilla Islands]

Yeah, I would like this.
Republic of the
Arilla Islands

[Trotterdam]

I still believe we should have one of the following two options:

1. Allow the "connector" between the pretitle and name to be switched between "of" and "of the" (and maybe "of a"/"of an"): The [Democratic Republic] of the [Congo].

2. Allow names to start with a lowercase word if it happens to be "the" (or "a"/"an"): The [Democratic Republic] of [the Congo].

(First pair of brackets marks pretitle field, second pair of brackets marks name field.)

We should not implement both of these, as that would simply invite abuse and confusion.

My personal preference is for option 2, though either one would be helpful for some and unhelpful for some nations created before the feature became available.

I don't see how Hydraic Empire's "allow arbitrary mashups of pretitles and names without any distinction between the two" could possible be a good idea. If you want to be "Imperial Hydraic Empire", you can enter that in full as either your pretitle or (with "the") your name, it's not a two-part description.

[Gregoryisgodistan]

The only RL nation I know of where the article is part of the official name is The Gambia. A capital 'T' is generally used when the name is written. For example...

I said "real life nations that typically use an article"--common names, to elaborate. The Netherlands, the Philippines, the UK, the US, the DRC, etc. I didn't say official.

The United States of America. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. But on the other hand, The Kingdom of the Netherlands. The Republic of the Philippines. The Democratic Republic of the Congo. In short, "United States" and "United Kingdom" are actually the equivalent of the pretitle, not the title. But seriously, just create a nation name that starts with The. It isn't hard. And admins can change capitalization if you ask nicely in this forum, so if you're The Whatever, just ask them nicely to change it to the Whatever and they can do that.

Edit: Actually, I'm not sure they can change an initial capital to lowercase, that causes issues on some places depending on how it's configured. But this is the forum to ask if that's possible.

[The Test Nation Junior]

This is GGS's new test puppet. (the Test Nation was used by a nation that CTEd 4 years ago so I can't have it.) It didn't let me call it "the Test Nation Junior" but oddly enough it's showing me as in "the Pacific" which is really weird since the The in The Pacific has a capital T normally, I think. Is it technically possible for an admin to change our name to the Test Nation Junior (don't waste your time doing it unless you don't know and need to find out, I'm just curious) and if not (or even if so) why are we showing in "the Pacific"?

[Flanderlion]

This is GGS's new test puppet. (the Test Nation was used by a nation that CTEd 4 years ago so I can't have it.) It didn't let me call it "the Test Nation Junior" but oddly enough it's showing me as in "the Pacific" which is really weird since the The in The Pacific has a capital T normally, I think. Is it technically possible for an admin to change our name to the Test Nation Junior (don't waste your time doing it unless you don't know and need to find out, I'm just curious) and if not (or even if so) why are we showing in "the Pacific"?

I think of us more as "the Pacific". And I could have sworn that we weren't that earlier.

[The Brown Bear]

But seriously, just create a nation name that starts with The. It isn't hard.

The Brown Bear here, who you appear to be addressing. Hi!

[Dretan Empire]

But seriously, just create a nation name that starts with The. It isn't hard.

Sadly if you forget the THE you lost or what that's sad.

[Gregoryisgodistan]

But seriously, just create a nation name that starts with The. It isn't hard.

Sadly if you forget the THE you lost or what that's sad.

Make a new nation. Yours is a week old and has four posts.

[Dretan Empire]

Sadly if you forget the THE you lost or what that's sad.

Make a new nation. Yours is a week old and has four posts.

Mine is a year old man so don't even think about that.
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