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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:32 am

Mushet wrote:Where'd you get those numbers?

Go to your analysis page. You can find the link at the top of your nation profile (between "Trend" and "Challenge"), or by clicking on the unit name in the very last line of your nation overview which describes your ranking on the current world census.

This will only tell you your nation's current stats, so in order to track change over time, you need to make a record of them yourself.

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Postby UED » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:17 am

Do u guys know what the issue is after i bomb all of Brasilista's cities into rubble?? (The high civilian losses one instead of military targets)
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:32 pm

UED wrote:Do u guys know what the issue is after i bomb all of Brasilista's cities into rubble?? (The high civilian losses one instead of military targets)

Here's a walkthrough. I think you're talking about #398.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:42 pm

I've (finally) been getting these issues, and I gotta say, nice work so far. Though it does get kind of repetitive when the same "Just Keep Bombing Them!" and "Just Nuke 'Em!" options keep appearing ("What's The WA Gonna Do, Anyway?").
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Postby Sanctaria » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:23 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:I've (finally) been getting these issues, and I gotta say, nice work so far. Though it does get kind of repetitive when the same "Just Keep Bombing Them!" and "Just Nuke 'Em!" options keep appearing ("What's The WA Gonna Do, Anyway?").

They were boring to write, but meh. I tried not to deviate too much from the original plans which was a Nuclear War chain anyway so ... just nuke em.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:26 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:I've (finally) been getting these issues, and I gotta say, nice work so far. Though it does get kind of repetitive when the same "Just Keep Bombing Them!" and "Just Nuke 'Em!" options keep appearing ("What's The WA Gonna Do, Anyway?").


It's all an attempt to guilt trip you. They think that maybe by the third time you state your desire to wipe out millions of innocent lives, you'll feel bad.
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:38 am

I chose a path that didn't even offer nuking as an option once ;)

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Postby Constaniana » Fri May 01, 2015 7:46 am

Trotterdam wrote:I chose a path that didn't even offer nuking as an option once ;)

Pansy. :p
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat May 02, 2015 4:18 pm

Not that it matter much at this point, but I've been reflecting that the first option on #388 is rather weak, compared to the second. If you're playing a good nation, supporting your invasion with tactical airstrikes against military targets rather than getting bogged down in a war of attrition helps reduce casualties on both sides. If you're playing an evil nation, the airstrike path gives you opportunities for so many more war crimes.

Choosing a land invasion leads to a rather straightforward "yup, you won" result immediately with no complications, which is possibly a good thing for your nation, but a lot less interesting than the other path. It's practically too easy.

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I see you went with the longest path that I charted out :)

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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Sat May 02, 2015 4:36 pm

Trotterdam wrote:
Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:I've been waiting for this to be posted. I got Diamonds are an Expats best friend on march 28, and have been waiting for a list of results. Now, what should I choose? :lol: :clap:
I see you went with the longest path that I charted out :)


Yep, I wanted to go on the longest possible route. The colonyoscopy issue made me question if I should nuke them or not, I did nuke 'em. This does not show that I'm an evil nation, just a person trying to get the Immortal banner which somehow I haven't got yet! Seriously! I wonder what it looks like...

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Postby Ataenseleterderha » Sun May 03, 2015 10:22 am

I'd been trying to avoid going nuclear, but my other nations have already done the other 3 options on the Colony issue, so I finally dropped the Bomb.

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Postby The Peloponnesian Anax » Sun May 03, 2015 1:06 pm

I know it's already been discussed, but I would like to reiterate that the nuclear option ends with two so-called issues that don't provide options. Guilt-tripping I understand, but I'm pretty sure the same effect could have been reached without wasting 24 hours expecting to be presented with an actual choice. Especially because there are plenty of choices still to make, in my opinion. For instance, do I choose to just throw a single nuke at them to push them into unconditional surrender, or do I commit genocide on a grand scale? I can accept one issue turning up with only a single response--the first such issue was an amusing surprise--but two in a row is just irritating. These things only come once every twelve hours. It's criminal to waste them like that.

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Postby Betoveria » Mon May 04, 2015 10:42 am

Can someone tell me if I'll not ever get this issue again? I may have accidentally dismissed it at some point, without recognizing it as being unique.

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Mon May 04, 2015 11:06 am

Betoveria wrote:Can someone tell me if I'll not ever get this issue again? I may have accidentally dismissed it at some point, without recognizing it as being unique.

The chain is a one-off. If you've dismissed it, you're out of luck.
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Postby Phydios » Mon May 04, 2015 1:28 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Betoveria wrote:Can someone tell me if I'll not ever get this issue again? I may have accidentally dismissed it at some point, without recognizing it as being unique.

The chain is a one-off. If you've dismissed it, you're out of luck.

This is true; however, the mods and admins did everything reasonable to avoid accidental dismissals. A News article on the Chain was published on March 27, before it was even in the game. That article made it clear that the Chain would only be received once per nation, and it gave the name of the first issue. Every player had read about the Chain before it was even added to the game; therefore, dismissing the first issue out of ignorance is rather unlikely, but it could happen. Do you recognize the issue "Diamonds Are An Expat's Best Friend!"? If you got that issue, and you dismissed it, then I don't think anything can be done.
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Postby Sanctaria » Mon May 04, 2015 1:36 pm

Betoveria wrote:Can someone tell me if I'll not ever get this issue again? I may have accidentally dismissed it at some point, without recognizing it as being unique.

You haven't received it.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue May 05, 2015 1:19 pm

Is the chain event completely random, or do I have to achieve certain requirements for the chain event to unlock?

Currently I don't think I've gotten the chain event.
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Postby Phydios » Tue May 05, 2015 1:25 pm

Pandeeria wrote:Is the chain event completely random, or do I have to achieve certain requirements for the chain event to unlock?

Currently I don't think I've gotten the chain event.

1. Allow emigration.
2. Have a military.
3. Wait.
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Postby Jute » Tue May 05, 2015 1:31 pm

Phydios wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Is the chain event completely random, or do I have to achieve certain requirements for the chain event to unlock?

Currently I don't think I've gotten the chain event.

1. Allow emigration.
2. Have a military.
3. Wait.

This means having military at "1" or more, right? Currently I have -4 :?
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue May 05, 2015 1:40 pm

Phydios wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:Is the chain event completely random, or do I have to achieve certain requirements for the chain event to unlock?

Currently I don't think I've gotten the chain event.

1. Allow emigration.
2. Have a military.
3. Wait.


Is there a stat somewhere in analysis that says if I allow emigration?
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Tue May 05, 2015 6:45 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Phydios wrote:1. Allow emigration.
2. Have a military.
3. Wait.


Is there a stat somewhere in analysis that says if I allow emigration?


nope, you have to remember if you got the issue dealing with immigration or not.

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Postby Divergia » Tue May 05, 2015 7:12 pm

Still waiting.....

Wait what was the final effect for the nuking?(I know you get two extra issues that'll guilt trip you, but what happens after that?)
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue May 05, 2015 7:13 pm

Divergia wrote:Still waiting.....

Wait what was the final effect for the nuking?(I know you get two extra issues that'll guilt trip you, but what happens after that?)

The nation with the really long name said (on my issue draft) that you completely wiped them from existence. I'm working on a draft that basically guilt-trips you for nuking them.
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Postby Divergia » Tue May 05, 2015 7:14 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Divergia wrote:Still waiting.....

Wait what was the final effect for the nuking?(I know you get two extra issues that'll guilt trip you, but what happens after that?)

The nation with the really long name said (on my issue draft) that you completely wiped them from existence. I'm working on a draft that basically guilt-trips you for nuking them.


huh, I think I'll avoid nuking them then.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Tue May 05, 2015 7:16 pm

Divergia wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:The nation with the really long name said (on my issue draft) that you completely wiped them from existence. I'm working on a draft that basically guilt-trips you for nuking them.


huh, I think I'll avoid nuking them then.

Good choice.

(coming from one of the most nuke-happy countries in the world :D )
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