The Bear Necessities

[Socialist Federative Republic of Sornia]

The issue:"Planning for the People," a popular new movement, has been holding protests all over the country after a recent crisis where the Economic Planning Committee accidentally sent 10 tonnes of teddy bears to a small town in dire need of wheat.
The Debate

1.''This has gone on long enough!" shouts the leader of the protest, Prudence Rubin. "While I am a patriot of our glorious Slavic federation, things are far from perfect. No-one wants to return our economy to capitalist exploitation, but something must be done about the bureaucratic mess that our country is in! Comrades, instead of centralized planning, we can have a democratically controlled economy! Finally we can achieve the socialist dream of workers' power!"

2."This is utter madness!" seethes Calvin Lopez, one of your most trusted economic planners. "The country would be in ruins without our central planning! Who ensures that everything runs smoothly? Sure we mess up sometimes, but hey, we are only human. Besides, we intended to send that town teddy bears. Hmm... yeah, we did intend it! Those teddy bears are edible, you know?"

3."More socialism? Have you all gone mad?" fumes foreign Arms Manufacturing tycoon Stefanie James, whose face is now turning blue with rage. "Violet save me! The government has no business telling me how to run MY business! The only real way to rebuild Socialist Federative Republic of Sornia's anemic economy is to bring back capitalism. Privatize the really lucrative industries and cut everything else. Some shock therapy would do Socialist Federative Republic of Sornia wonders."


So, I'm a socialist nation, but I want to have a super strong economy. I know the first one will harm my economy, but I'm wondering by how much, and what will the other two do?

[Arkolon]

The issue:"Planning for the People," a popular new movement, has been holding protests all over the country after a recent crisis where the Economic Planning Committee accidentally sent 10 tonnes of teddy bears to a small town in dire need of wheat.
The Debate

1.''This has gone on long enough!" shouts the leader of the protest, Prudence Rubin. "While I am a patriot of our glorious Slavic federation, things are far from perfect. No-one wants to return our economy to capitalist exploitation, but something must be done about the bureaucratic mess that our country is in! Comrades, instead of centralized planning, we can have a democratically controlled economy! Finally we can achieve the socialist dream of workers' power!"

2."This is utter madness!" seethes Calvin Lopez, one of your most trusted economic planners. "The country would be in ruins without our central planning! Who ensures that everything runs smoothly? Sure we mess up sometimes, but hey, we are only human. Besides, we intended to send that town teddy bears. Hmm... yeah, we did intend it! Those teddy bears are edible, you know?"

3."More socialism? Have you all gone mad?" fumes foreign Arms Manufacturing tycoon Stefanie James, whose face is now turning blue with rage. "Violet save me! The government has no business telling me how to run MY business! The only real way to rebuild Socialist Federative Republic of Sornia's anemic economy is to bring back capitalism. Privatize the really lucrative industries and cut everything else. Some shock therapy would do Socialist Federative Republic of Sornia wonders."


So, I'm a socialist nation, but I want to have a super strong economy. I know the first one will harm my economy, but I'm wondering by how much, and what will the other two do?

The last one will return your nation to capitalist exploitation and lift your economic freedom rating, and the first one will let it skydive. The second one looks like a status quo type thing. The problem with NS is that your economy is closely related to your economic freedom, and socialism is against economic freedom in its capitalistic sense. So you might have to go with Calvin Lopez, one of your most trusted economic planners, to maintain the status quo.

[Socialist Federative Republic of Sornia]

How much will my economy skydive if I choose socialism. I have no problem if it decreases by circa 10 or 20.

[Computerised Equality]

Letting workers seize the economy only knocks it down by 1-2 points, IIRC.

[Empirium Canitas]

I run a completely government controlled econy with private enterprise being illegal. With that in mind the second choice seemed like maintaining the status quo, however it made my economy tank 12 points.

[Undivulged Principles]

You mean 9 points, and the second choice seems to imply less concern for efficiency and more wasteful spending. Neither is conducive to a strong economy.

[Nation of Quebec]

Last post was back in August. Gravedig?

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=310011#p23897661

[Kaboomlandia]

Last post was back in August. Gravedig?

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=310011#p23897661

Reported to the mods.

[Sedgistan]

We're not really that bothered by gravedigs in Got Issues.

[Kaboomlandia]

Not even by 7 months?

[Sedgistan]

Not really - there's no harm done. It's a slow moving topic, and few topics of discussion - it's reasonable that people may want to revisit old discussions of an issue.

[Supreme Empire of the North]

So not that I expect any response yet for anyone Like me who had this issue and wind up here looking for outcomes I chose option 1 and have a complete socialist economy and it did not change my economic rating but my output went up so if you are already super socialist that may be more positive then it seems... but this is for me anyway...