Coalition Against the Ideology of Nazism

[Caelapes]

These two statements seem to contradict each other. Besides, it is not a public deal. In no way does your ultimatum state that you will enable or request a communist raider to attack them. The smell of corruption is pungent, indeed.

The Red Fleet does not need the permission or request of CAIN to destroy Nazi regions. We've been doing it for years, and will continue to destroy Nazi regions and their allies no matter what the future holds for CAIN.

That said, I'll happily work with other CAIN signatories to destroy Nazi regions and allies, and CAIN's publicly-posted treaty is pretty clear about what steps signatories are encouraged to take against Nazi Collaborators.

How often do you come across these people? And why does this thus drive you to intrude on the lives of innocent individuals simply because they happened to be in a region that is Nazi-like in your opinion?

There is no such thing as an "innocent individual" in Nazi regions.

[Republic of Greater Cuba]

How is KAISERREICH even considered National Socialist? All I see if someone linking a message to the regions founder saying a dark joke and them using the Reichsadler symbol just because it's German

Because Europeia and Canton Empire don't like us, it seems.

Trying to isolate us because we are a "theat" to them. I wonder if they just went on the RMB search board and typed in different terms that would be more commonly used by Nazis like "Jews" or Sieg Heil"

[Cresenthia]

There is no such thing as an "innocent individual" in Nazi regions.

Yes there is.

[Republic of Greater Cuba]

These two statements seem to contradict each other. Besides, it is not a public deal. In no way does your ultimatum state that you will enable or request a communist raider to attack them. The smell of corruption is pungent, indeed.

The Red Fleet does not need the permission or request of CAIN to destroy Nazi regions. We've been doing it for years, and will continue to destroy Nazi regions and their allies no matter what the future holds for CAIN.

That said, I'll happily work with other CAIN signatories to destroy Nazi regions and allies, and CAIN's publicly-posted treaty is pretty clear about what steps signatories are encouraged to take against Nazi Collaborators.

How often do you come across these people? And why does this thus drive you to intrude on the lives of innocent individuals simply because they happened to be in a region that is Nazi-like in your opinion?

There is no such thing as an "innocent individual" in Nazi regions.

Well gee declaring war when they are doing no harm to you personally and when almost all of NS doesn't even want to hear their bigoted messages dosn't mean you have to assemble the Allied Powers of NS to try to kill them and Imperalistic German regions

[Cresenthia]

There is no such thing as an "innocent individual" in Nazi regions.

Especially given your definition of a Nazi region.

[Brunhizzle]

These two statements seem to contradict each other. Besides, it is not a public deal. In no way does your ultimatum state that you will enable or request a communist raider to attack them. The smell of corruption is pungent, indeed.

The Internationale is a signatory of CAIN. The signatories of CAIN commit to working together, when consistent with internal policy, to oppose Nazi Regions through military means. The treaty also subjects Nazi Collaborators to the same military response as Nazi Regions. Thus, it is publicly available that CAIN and its signatories will oppose them through military means.

How is KAISERREICH even considered National Socialist? All I see if someone linking a message to the regions founder saying a dark joke and them using the Reichsadler symbol just because it's German.

Including that this coalition is beating a almost 97 year old ideology that only exists in small isolated fringe groups

Evidence is provided in this post: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=396460#p30535379

It includes an antisemitic comment from their founder, reports of the past use of Nazi Imagery on their forums, the use of Nazi Imagery by their Reich Chancellor in their dispatches (Nazi Propaganda and the Swastika is used), and a former leader being the "Nazi Kingdom of Neo-Prussia."

Because Europeia and Canton Empire don't like us, it seems.

Canton Empire is not involved with CAIN in any way. In fact, I don't really know if I have ever seen him/her beyond his/her posts in this thread and its predecessor.

As stated earlier, Europeia is not in charge of this Coalition. Europeia has no power, beyond a region exercising their vote as given to every signatory, to decide who is or who is not a Nazi Region.

[Republic of Greater Cuba]

These two statements seem to contradict each other. Besides, it is not a public deal. In no way does your ultimatum state that you will enable or request a communist raider to attack them. The smell of corruption is pungent, indeed.

The Internationale is a signatory of CAIN. The signatories of CAIN commit to working together, when consistent with internal policy, to oppose Nazi Regions through military means. The treaty also subjects Nazi Collaborators to the same military response as Nazi Regions. Thus, it is publicly available that CAIN and its signatories will oppose them through military means.

How is KAISERREICH even considered National Socialist? All I see if someone linking a message to the regions founder saying a dark joke and them using the Reichsadler symbol just because it's German.

Including that this coalition is beating a almost 97 year old ideology that only exists in small isolated fringe groups

Evidence is provided in this post: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=396460#p30535379

It includes an antisemitic comment from their founder, reports of the past use of Nazi Imagery on their forums, the use of Nazi Imagery by their Reich Chancellor in their dispatches (Nazi Propaganda and the Swastika is used), and a former leader being the "Nazi Kingdom of Neo-Prussia."

That is the sadest excuse for saying they are Nazis. It's called "Dark Humor", which is at times racist, stupid, and really screwed up, but that doesn't mean they mean it, including that it is only ONE comment. Two, yeah nazi imagery is used in fake government documents for shits and giggle to make it look "official", and one nation that was it the government being "Nazi" isn't a good reason either. Stop using old weak evidence that wasn't even intended to spread a bigoted message

[Izweababa]

Brunhizzle, I'd like to ask you some things: Why are you targeting regions simply because you've hated the ideology for so long, and what are you specifically going to do about this?

And also, this Kaiserreich = Nazi thing. I'm going to make it clear that Kaiserreich is not a Nazi region. We are a German-themed region. Yes, we do have Nazi-themed nations around here but by the rules of the Konstitution, any hateful message and influence by all nations residing in Kaiserreich is prohibited.

[Slavatria]

How is KAISERREICH even considered National Socialist? All I see if someone linking a message to the regions founder saying a dark joke and them using the Reichsadler symbol just because it's German.

Including that this coalition is beating a almost 97 year old ideology that only exists in small isolated fringe groups

Evidence is provided in this post: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=396460#p30535379

It includes an antisemitic comment from their founder, reports of the past use of Nazi Imagery on their forums, the use of Nazi Imagery by their Reich Chancellor in their dispatches (Nazi Propaganda and the Swastika is used), and a former leader being the "Nazi Kingdom of Neo-Prussia."

I looked at your "evidence" and the comment provided for the accusation against our Kaiser is not very compelling and really does not seem anti-semetic in the slightest. Besides, I don't think you know much about what is anti-semetism, considering you still refuse to apologize for insulting a Jewish individual.

As stated before, the Nazi imagery was used for a RolePlay in which our Reich Kanzler was undoubtedly Fascist Germany. As such, it was purposefully not representative of his beliefs. In short, that's not relevant.

As far as Neo-Prussia, they were never our "leader" and does not and has not held office in Kaiserreich for a long while. By your logic, IRL Germany is still a Nazi nation because they once had a Nazi in power.

[Republic of Greater Cuba]

Evidence is provided in this post: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=396460#p30535379

It includes an antisemitic comment from their founder, reports of the past use of Nazi Imagery on their forums, the use of Nazi Imagery by their Reich Chancellor in their dispatches (Nazi Propaganda and the Swastika is used), and a former leader being the "Nazi Kingdom of Neo-Prussia."

I looked at your "evidence" and the comment provided for the accusation against our Kaiser is not very compelling and really does not seem anti-semetic in the slightest. Besides, I don't think you know much about what is anti-semetism, considering you still refuse to apologize for insulting a Jewish individual.

As stated before, the Nazi imagery was used for a RolePlay in which our Reich Kanzler was undoubtedly Fascist Germany. As such, it was purposefully not representative of his beliefs. In short, that's not relevant.

As far as Neo-Prussia, they were never our "leader" and does not and has not held office in Kaiserreich for a long while. By your logic, IRL Germany is still a Nazi nation because they once had a Nazi in power.

They also probably think they are getting ready to invade Poland any day now

[Brunhizzle]

Stop using old weak evidence that wasn't even intended to spread a bigoted message

The evidence also mentions the usage of Nazi Imagery on their offsite forum, which they've publicly admitted to with the excuse that they got the code from Nazi Europe.

Why are you targeting regions simply because you've hated the ideology for so long, and what are you specifically going to do about this?

Why am I targeting an ideology that seeks to oppress me for my birth? I think that's one of those questions that contain the answer in the question.

As for what I am going to do about it, I have organized CAIN as a way for regions to stand together against this ideology.

[Revitallia]

The Democratic Union of Republics has voted and decided to withdraw from the CAIN Treaty, ruling it unconstitutional.

Please remove our region name from those participating.

[Slavatria]

Stop using old weak evidence that wasn't even intended to spread a bigoted message

The evidence also mentions the usage of Nazi Imagery on their offsite forum, which they've publicly admitted to with the excuse that they got the code from Nazi Europe.

Why are you targeting regions simply because you've hated the ideology for so long, and what are you specifically going to do about this?

Why am I targeting an ideology that seeks to oppress me for my birth? I think that's one of those questions that contain the answer in the question.

As for what I am going to do about it, I have organized CAIN as a way for regions to stand together against this ideology.

You aren't targeting just Nazis, you know. I don't know if you realized this, but there are barely any Nazis on NS, and those in Kaiserreich are prohibited from spreading any sort of racist or offensive propaganda. It seems that you use this to actually oppress anyone with a rightist point of view. Who's worse? Someone who prescribes to an ideology that wants to oppress people based on race, but doesn't, or someone who actively oppresses people based on their belief structures, especially when that someone chooses to be general so as to oppress innocent people.

[Canton Empire]

How is KAISERREICH even considered National Socialist? All I see if someone linking a message to the regions founder saying a dark joke and them using the Reichsadler symbol just because it's German

Because Europeia and Canton Empire don't like us, it seems.

I have great disdain for your region, yes, but I will agree that some of CAIN's policies seem to be ridiculous. Remember, just because I reside, like 10 thousand other nations, in a CAIN signator region, does not mean that I agree with everything they do. I have no influence or say in CAIN whatsoever. It does seem like my foresight to ask for the removal of your forum theme was correct, by the way.

[LollerLand]

To those from KAISERREICH who are saying that they were not responsible for the Nazi imagery in your offsite forum, it's really not a matured thing to do to put the blame of your actions upon others. You said you asked for help from Nazi Europa to set up your forum theme which itself raises some red flags. And obviously the theme NE made for you had Nazi imagery in them and it seems you had no problem with using that theme for your forum for so long. There are too many circumstantial evidences against your region that made us believe that adding your region to the list of designated Nazi regions is indeed an appropriate action.

[Canton Empire]

To those from KAISERREICH who are saying that they were not responsible for the Nazi imagery in your offsite forum, it's really not a matured thing to do to put the blame of your actions upon others. You said you asked for help from Nazi Europa to set up your forum theme which itself raises some red flags. And obviously the theme NE made for you had Nazi imagery in them and it seems you had no problem with using that theme for your forum for so long. There are too many circumstantial evidences against your region that made us believe that adding your region to the list of designated Nazi regions is indeed an appropriate action.

I don't know how you can possibly blame citizens for the actions of the oligarchy.

[LollerLand]

To those from KAISERREICH who are saying that they were not responsible for the Nazi imagery in your offsite forum, it's really not a matured thing to do to put the blame of your actions upon others. You said you asked for help from Nazi Europa to set up your forum theme which itself raises some red flags. And obviously the theme NE made for you had Nazi imagery in them and it seems you had no problem with using that theme for your forum for so long. There are too many circumstantial evidences against your region that made us believe that adding your region to the list of designated Nazi regions is indeed an appropriate action.

I don't know how you can possibly blame citizens for the actions of the oligarchy.

Wait what? If a region can't be blamed for the actions of it's government, I don't know what it can be blamed for.

[Piper Winter]

Are these the same citizens prefectly fine with staying in said region?

[Cresenthia]

Are these the same citizens prefectly fine with staying in said region?

Because it's not actually a Nazi region? Yes. If it actually became a Nazi region, I'd bet that all but about 20 nations and some puppets would leave within 24 hours.

[Piper Winter]

I guess then if that is so, that onus falls to them to discuss otherwise. I would love that to be the case, personally.

[LollerLand]

Are these the same citizens prefectly fine with staying in said region?

Because it's not actually a Nazi region? Yes. If it actually became a Nazi region, I'd bet that all but about 20 nations and some puppets would leave within 24 hours.

You said K-Reich's oligarchy was responsible for the Nazi imagery. A region controlled by those that promotes Nazi ideals is a Nazi region.

[ChicagoBoys]

Deus Vult is not a Nazi region and as such will not be succumbing to the demands of the CAIN terrorist group. We will stand beside our friends in Kaiserreich, who are not Nazis either, and will not allow you lot of SJ terrorists to bully them either.

May your Axis of Evil, and blantent Europeian power play, die a quick and painful death

[United German Regions]

The Insane Region and The Embassy both stand against CAIN on the topic of Kaiserreich and we believe CAIN to be using poor evidence to convict regions with disliked political ideals. Kaiserreich does not display Nazism in any modern situation. The inclusion of regions with embassies such as my two are both dragged in because we have allies poorly being accused.

[Corneliu Zelea Codreanu]

The Iron Guard will gladly stand with our brothers from Nazi Europa and Kaiserreich against the threat of CAIN.

[Wordy]

Deus Vult is not a Nazi region and as such will not be succumbing to the demands of the CAIN terrorist group. We will stand beside our friends in Kaiserreich, who are not Nazis either, and will not allow you lot of SJ terrorists to bully them either.

May your Axis of Evil, and blantent Europeian power play, die a quick and painful death

Interesting considering your movements.


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