HYDRA COMMAND

[Lord Ravenclaw]

I just about had a heart attack when I saw this operation. Not the good kind.

[Stalker Queen]

Inb4PopeHopeGetsPokedOnFakebook...

PH refounded about 90 minutes ago. Wish you'd stop raiding Nasi, we don't want the oldies in there waking up again and wandering through NS. They'll cause havoc.

Facebook's to blame for her coming back, not Nasicournia being raided!

[Tyrinth]

Hah. Almost makes me wanna come back.

Keep it up, all.

[Ikania]

For the record, a few of us spent hours in chat trying to figure out which battle would be a good analogy of this raid. I suggested Marathon or Okehazama. Helghan wanted Thermopylae, then I reminded him that the Spartans lost that one.

Really like the picture though.

[Ryanimus]

For the record, a few of us spent hours in chat trying to figure out which battle would be a good analogy of this raid. I suggested Marathon or Okehazama. Helghan wanted Thermopylae, then I reminded him that the Spartans lost that one.

Really like the picture though.

How about the Conch republic vs USA, 1982?

[We Are Not the NSA]

For the record, a few of us spent hours in chat trying to figure out which battle would be a good analogy of this raid. I suggested Marathon or Okehazama. Helghan wanted Thermopylae, then I reminded him that the Spartans lost that one.

Really like the picture though.

I think Marathon fits well. An important message was delivered to a nation far from NationStates, and it's a well known enough battle that most people would probably get the reference.

And just to clear up any confusion, this was only meant to be a tag, not an occupation. We knew Pope Hope would be notified quickly, but Tom wanted to see if we could hold it through minor.

[Ikania]

For the record, a few of us spent hours in chat trying to figure out which battle would be a good analogy of this raid. I suggested Marathon or Okehazama. Helghan wanted Thermopylae, then I reminded him that the Spartans lost that one.

Really like the picture though.

How about the Conch republic vs USA, 1982?

Calling it now, Conch raiders.

For the record, a few of us spent hours in chat trying to figure out which battle would be a good analogy of this raid. I suggested Marathon or Okehazama. Helghan wanted Thermopylae, then I reminded him that the Spartans lost that one.

Really like the picture though.

I think Marathon fits well. An important message was delivered to a nation far from NationStates, and it's a well known enough battle that most people would probably get the reference.

And just to clear up any confusion, this was only meant to be a tag, not an occupation. We knew Pope Hope would be notified quickly, but Tom wanted to see if we could hold it through minor.

Well, a story of an outnumbered army fighting a foreign empire at a crucial juncture and serving as a symbolic hope that they can be defeated? Plus, they're Greeks. Obviously no bias intended at all...

Μαλακα.

[We Are Not the NSA]

How about the Conch republic vs USA, 1982?

Calling it now, Conch raiders.

I think Marathon fits well. An important message was delivered to a nation far from NationStates, and it's a well known enough battle that most people would probably get the reference.

And just to clear up any confusion, this was only meant to be a tag, not an occupation. We knew Pope Hope would be notified quickly, but Tom wanted to see if we could hold it through minor.

Well, a story of an outnumbered army fighting a foreign empire at a crucial juncture and serving as a symbolic hope that they can be defeated? Plus, they're Greeks. Obviously no bias intended at all...

Μαλακα.

I feel to see how that applies to this raid though. The defenders and raiders out during the op were evenly numbered, and I don't see how this serves as any sort of hope. It was more of an embarrassment. The founder let his nation cease to exist, the region didn't contact him for over 6 days after it happened, and the active defenders failed to defend it.

[Ikania]

Just like how the Persians outnumbered the Athenians 3 to 1 and lost!

Although, I was told we were outnumbered by double our number, the defenders were just slow.

[Black Mekhet]

Calling it now, Conch raiders.



Well, a story of an outnumbered army fighting a foreign empire at a crucial juncture and serving as a symbolic hope that they can be defeated? Plus, they're Greeks. Obviously no bias intended at all...

Μαλακα.

I feel to see how that applies to this raid though. The defenders and raiders out during the op were evenly numbered, and I don't see how this serves as any sort of hope. It was more of an embarrassment. The founder let his nation cease to exist, the region didn't contact him for over 6 days after it happened, and the active defenders failed to defend it.

Her*

[We Are Not the NSA]

I feel to see how that applies to this raid though. The defenders and raiders out during the op were evenly numbered, and I don't see how this serves as any sort of hope. It was more of an embarrassment. The founder let his nation cease to exist, the region didn't contact him for over 6 days after it happened, and the active defenders failed to defend it.

Her*

Tomato, Eggplant. You know what I meant.

[Ikania]

Her*

Tomato, Eggplant. You know what I meant.

Butternut Squash?

[We Are Not the NSA]

Dank Memes Invaded!


Late into the Major Update of September 1st, 2016, the elite troopers of HYDRA Command, accompanied by their allies from Firehelm and Kingdom of Alexandria, stormed the region of Dank Memes. Waiting until the last possible moment to join the WA and endorse a point, this coalition force was successful in remaining undetected by enemy forces, without suffering interference from a single defender. Because the delegate had wasted all of his influence ejecting people the night before the invasion, he has already been banned from the region. HAIL HYDRA!

Hydra Troops:
Director Tom Vasentius HYDRA
Deputy Director We Are Not The NSA
General Xesperias
Colonel Haley Ramen
Lieutenant HYDRA Soldier III
Sergeant Vapid Vasentius
Corporal Stretchington
Private Ikania

Firehelm Troops:
Lord General Nyx Vasentius
Terror Marine Maun Stegeda

Kingdom of Alexandria Troops:
Lord Lieutenant Paladin Khronion Denral
Soldier Derexsola

Special thanks the The West Pacific Armed Forces for their assistance in supporting the occupation.

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Deputy Director Elections

The election results for the September-October Deputy Director of Hydra are in:

Barely winning a majority of the votes this election cycle, previous Deputy Director We Are Not The NSA has been reinstated in the position. NSA had this to say: “I’ll be honest, I was not expecting to win. We usually like to elect different people as our Deputy Director, and there was even talk about banning consecutive terms in previous Officer Summits. However, neither my of opponents have chosen to challenge the results, and have instead congratulated me on my reelection. I look forward to continuing to serve my region as our sole elected official and Head of State. I have some new ideas I would like to test throughout this term, and I look forward to commanding my troops into battle. HAIL HYDRA!”

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[Harenhime]

>.> Tease the people online but flagging for other orgs coughcoughyourselfincludedcoughcough

[McManniaa]

[We Are Not the NSA]

HYDRA Command Legal Update and
Message to Other Raiders

Subject: Delete on Sight Players
From the Office of the WNLS Leader

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Existing Informal Rules/Regulations on Subject:

No known Delete On Sight Players are permitted access to any forum or chat associated with Hydra Command. Any DOS player found to have made their way into a forum or chat associated with Hydra Command is to be immediately removed. Failure to report a known DOS player is punishable by ≤temporary/permanent banjection. Assisting a DOS player in accessing a forum or chat associated with Hydra Command is punishable by permanent banjection. Assisting a DOS player in accessing NationStates is punishable by permanent banjection and GHR, as per the otherwise established laws on the breaching of NationStates rules. The use of a tool provided by or created by a DOS player is punishable by temporary/permanent banjection, depending on individual circumstances.

Rule Update:

Contact with known DOS players is punishable by ≤demotion on first offense, increasing in severity onward. Public praise of DOS players is punishable by demotion-banjection (temporary or permanent), depending on individual circumstances and location. Those known to be involved in such activities before the enactment of these rules will not be punished for offenses committed before the rule enactment.

Legal Justification:

We are adding the CROM “Cult” to our preexisting list of antagonistic topics, which are not allowed to be discussed in HYCom chats with the goal of keeping Hydra members from arguing with each other too vehemently (this rule’s slogan is “Take it to NSG.”) The list already includes topics such as religion, RL politics (only to a degree), racism, homophobia, sexism, general rules on flam(ebait)ing, Nazism, Brexit and Xbox vs. Play Station.

Explanation of Rule Update:

The glorification and public support of Delete On Sight players needs to stop, along with the institutional support/inaction of this behavior. This has been a problem in raiding for a while now, longer than most people would consider to think in fact. We’ve seen its consequences and where that road will lead us multiple times in recent history. Over the course of less than two years:

• The Black Riders ceased to exist as an organization, due to General Halcones’ and Bob Moran’s collusion with the DOS player known as Frak in the creation of and use of an illegal recruitment script.
• The historic raider region known as DEN was permanently disbanded due to the use of the illegal tool known as Predator, a tool which was maintained by the DOS player known as General Halcones.
• According to our (rough) estimates, in the past 2 years the tolerance of contact with Delete on Sight players has cause: 4 raiders to be declared Delete on Sight, [undetermined but high] raiders to be puppet swept, [undetermined but high] raider nations to be DEATed, 12 raiders to be WA banned for periods longer than 1 month, the destruction of 3 active historic raider regions, the loss of at least 3 late updating raider jump points (2 of which were in active service), the loss of dozens of raider trophy regions, a total of 6 months of recruitment bans on raider regions, etc.

Message to Other Regional Governments:

HYDRA Command’s High Command has unanimously decided that it is time for us to put our foot down in regards to this long untreated symptom of our community's past, and we encourage other raider regions to do the same. Not doing so is not only encouraging rule breaking behavior from active players who could otherwise have bright careers ahead of them, but also encouraging certain Delete on Sight players to continue their attempts to reenter the website.

We are drafting an interregional agreement to regulate contact with and crack down on the praising of Delete on Sight players.

If your region wishes to join us in this endeavor, please contact either Tom Vasentius HYDRA or We Are Not The NSA.

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Thank You For Reading.

HAIL HYDRA! \▼/

[Vetelo]

Contact with known DOS players is punishable by ≤demotion on first offense, increasing in severity onward.

I will follow this rule, however.. What about if someone wants to talk about non-NS topics with a DOS player? Seems a little too harsh if you ask me..

[Drasnia]

I look forward to seeing the results of this declaration. I hope all raider organizations follow suit. Interacting with DoS players will spell the end of R/D as we know it.

Contact with known DOS players is punishable by ≤demotion on first offense, increasing in severity onward.

I will follow this rule, however.. What about if someone wants to talk about non-NS topics with a DOS player? Seems a little too harsh if you ask me..

I would think that if you want to be part of an organization, you have to play by their rules.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Contact with known DOS players is punishable by ≤demotion on first offense, increasing in severity onward.

I will follow this rule, however.. What about if someone wants to talk about non-NS topics with a DOS player? Seems a little too harsh if you ask me..

Like with any other rule, if evidence is found proving a player broke them, the player will be punished. We know that we can't keep individuals from talking to whomever they wish to talk to, but these restrictions will make it harder for them to do so, cutting down on the undesirable behavior. Law Making 101.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Just to be clear, NSA jumped the gun a wee bit on something Tom and I were discussing, which was more stating TBH is largely on the same page than that we're drafting some kind of special treaty or anything You should just contact Tom, I have no idea what this thing is.

[AR-18]

Well, at least you remove the temptation. Appreciate that in a strange kind of way.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Just to be clear, NSA jumped the gun a wee bit on something Tom and I were discussing, which was more stating TBH is largely on the same page than that we're drafting some kind of special treaty or anything You should just contact Tom, I have no idea what this thing is.

Yeah...

Nohbdy - Today at 12:09 PM
Should I post it now?
Tom - Today at 12:10 PM
Well about that
I had been talking with Souls about making a joint statement with TBH and any other regions we could get on board

When I went on to suggest advertising the joint statement here Tom forgot to mention that the conversation wasn't finished. Tooooooooooooooom! [/Wrath of Khan reference.]

Anyways, Tom and I are still drafting an agreement, and we have more than 5 regions willing to sign it.

[Benevolent Thomas]

This conversation should have happened back in March/April, when some of us were at least trying to address this issue.

I'm not so sure now that we can just trust the raiding community to not do this again, or to ostracize DOS scripters from their offsite communities, and to discourage rulebreaking actions like this. I have heard from reliable sources that in this latest debacle some players have been telling their friends not to come talk to moderation, that moderation can't punish what we don't know about, and generally just encouraging the same sort of shady behavior that has now tarred the entire raiding community, even those who still strive to keep their behavior in the clear.

Keep kicking the can on this issue and we won't have a reason to trust the invader community.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

This conversation should have happened back in March/April, when some of us were at least trying to address this issue.

I'm not so sure now that we can just trust the raiding community to not do this again, or to ostracize DOS scripters from their offsite communities, and to discourage rulebreaking actions like this. I have heard from reliable sources that in this latest debacle some players have been telling their friends not to come talk to moderation, that moderation can't punish what we don't know about, and generally just encouraging the same sort of shady behavior that has now tarred the entire raiding community, even those who still strive to keep their behavior in the clear.

Keep kicking the can on this issue and we won't have a reason to trust the invader community.

Well, as I've said elsewhere, some of us figured it was an implied level when we went so far as to sanction non-DOS players. But, you known what they say happens when you assume ... you make an a-s-s outta u n' me.

[Tim-Opolis]

It's good to see more invader groups are finally embracing some much-needed accountability efforts so as to ensure they too aren't tarred by DOS players and those in the game who still have a strange affection for them.