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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:13 pm

Ridersyl wrote:Ignorance in its purest form.


I admit it was a real tear-jerker of a post, but we weren't going to let them harass anybody and stay in our region.

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Mon May 30, 2016 2:16 pm

Soames wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:Ignorance in its purest form.


I admit it was a real tear-jerker of a post, but we weren't going to let them harass anybody and stay in our region.


No, Nuke?
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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:17 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Soames wrote:
I admit it was a real tear-jerker of a post, but we weren't going to let them harass anybody and stay in our region.


No, Nuke?


What?

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Mon May 30, 2016 2:18 pm

Soames wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
No, Nuke?


What?


Good acting. Almost had me fooled.

Alas, not quite. I must admit, you really do play your name sake well.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon May 30, 2016 2:19 pm

Soames wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:Ignorance in its purest form.


I admit it was a real tear-jerker of a post, but we weren't going to let them harass anybody and stay in our region.


I know from personally speaking to one of them that as soon as they saw their harasser in the region, it upset them to the point of a PTSD episode.
So congratulations on that being zero fucking comfort to them.
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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:19 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Soames wrote:
What?


Good acting. Almost had me fooled.

Alas, not quite. I must admit, you really do play your name sake well.


If you're insinuating that I'm the same user as Nuke, we can get that checked out by the moderation staff, and then you'll owe me an apology. So unless you want be severely humbled within the next week, I'd get back on track.

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Mon May 30, 2016 2:21 pm

Soames wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Good acting. Almost had me fooled.

Alas, not quite. I must admit, you really do play your name sake well.


If you're insinuating that I'm the same user as Nuke, we can get that checked out by the moderation staff, and then you'll owe me an apology. So unless you want be severely humbled within the next week, I'd get back on track.


Empty threat. Moderators aren't your personal sword and shield, so I'd advise against trying that line.
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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:21 pm

Ridersyl wrote:
Soames wrote:
I admit it was a real tear-jerker of a post, but we weren't going to let them harass anybody and stay in our region.


I know from personally speaking to one of them that as soon as they saw their harasser in the region, it upset them to the point of a PTSD episode.
So congratulations on that being zero fucking comfort to them.


Oh boy. We can't just give somebody everything they want because they had an emotional reaction to an event. There's a balance.

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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:21 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Soames wrote:
If you're insinuating that I'm the same user as Nuke, we can get that checked out by the moderation staff, and then you'll owe me an apology. So unless you want be severely humbled within the next week, I'd get back on track.


Empty threat. Moderators aren't your personal sword and shield, so I'd advise against trying that line.


No shit they aren't. But they can check IP addresses, especially if users are trying to make slanderous allegations against other users.

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Postby Syberis » Mon May 30, 2016 2:22 pm

Soames wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
I know from personally speaking to one of them that as soon as they saw their harasser in the region, it upset them to the point of a PTSD episode.
So congratulations on that being zero fucking comfort to them.


Oh boy. We can't just give somebody everything they want because they had an emotional reaction to an event. There's a balance.


They had an emotional reaction to their abuser being present in their life again.
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Mon May 30, 2016 2:24 pm

Soames wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Empty threat. Moderators aren't your personal sword and shield, so I'd advise against trying that line.


No shit they aren't. But they can check IP addresses, especially if users are trying to make slanderous allegations against other users.


Not quite. Moderators have far better things to do with their time than check out every misadventure in a Gameplay thread. Especially because for them to do so, it would mean you were attempting to use them as a weapon against me or others in this thread for stating opinions that you did not like.

In fact, you are more likely going to get yourself into troublesome waters by pursuing this line of defence. So, find another.
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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:25 pm

Syberis wrote:
Soames wrote:
Oh boy. We can't just give somebody everything they want because they had an emotional reaction to an event. There's a balance.


They had an emotional reaction to their abuser being present in their life again.


He's on the game as a whole, too. We're not going to move mountains, as tragic as PTSD is. A victim has the right to be heard, and a right to see the person they accuse investigated and held responsible if found guilty. You don't get the right to tell us what to do with our law and culture because you're a victim, though.

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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:26 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Soames wrote:
No shit they aren't. But they can check IP addresses, especially if users are trying to make slanderous allegations against other users.


Not quite. Moderators have far better things to do with their time than check out every misadventure in a Gameplay thread. Especially because for them to do so, it would mean you were attempting to use them as a weapon against me or others in this thread for stating opinions that you did not like.

In fact, you are more likely going to get yourself into troublesome waters by pursuing this line of defence. So, find another.


Have you stopped beating your wife?

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Postby CoraSpia » Mon May 30, 2016 2:28 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Soames wrote:
No shit they aren't. But they can check IP addresses, especially if users are trying to make slanderous allegations against other users.


Not quite. Moderators have far better things to do with their time than check out every misadventure in a Gameplay thread. Especially because for them to do so, it would mean you were attempting to use them as a weapon against me or others in this thread for stating opinions that you did not like.

In fact, you are more likely going to get yourself into troublesome waters by pursuing this line of defence. So, find another.

Soames was active before the predator punishments, when Lord Nuke got puppetswept. He can't be him, unless he resurrected his nation just after the punishments.
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Mon May 30, 2016 2:28 pm

Soames wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Not quite. Moderators have far better things to do with their time than check out every misadventure in a Gameplay thread. Especially because for them to do so, it would mean you were attempting to use them as a weapon against me or others in this thread for stating opinions that you did not like.

In fact, you are more likely going to get yourself into troublesome waters by pursuing this line of defence. So, find another.


Have you stopped beating your wife?


Oh yes, I've even stopped beating my husband too!
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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:29 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Soames wrote:
Have you stopped beating your wife?


Oh yes, I've even stopped beating my husband too!


Congratulations.

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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:30 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Not quite. Moderators have far better things to do with their time than check out every misadventure in a Gameplay thread. Especially because for them to do so, it would mean you were attempting to use them as a weapon against me or others in this thread for stating opinions that you did not like.

In fact, you are more likely going to get yourself into troublesome waters by pursuing this line of defence. So, find another.

Soames was active before the predator punishments, when Lord Nuke got puppetswept. He can't be him, unless he resurrected his nation just after the punishments.


When I first joined Grand Central, people thought I was defender spy bent on destroying the region from the inside. Now I'm secretly a totally different person. Too funny.

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Mon May 30, 2016 2:31 pm

Soames wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Oh yes, I've even stopped beating my husband too!


Congratulations.


Thank you. It took a lot of counselling sessions for me to admit what a utterly horrible individual I was to victimise an innocent person (sarcasm), but I can admit that. We now live thousands of miles away from the other and are happily separated.

'tis a pity that others do not have the testicular fortitude to do the same.
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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:32 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Thank you. It took a lot of counselling sessions for me to admit what an utterly horrible individual I was to victimise an innocent person, but I can admit that. We now live thousands of miles away from the other and are happily separated.


I was just trying to make a point. I had no clue you were a real life abuser. This makes our conversation all the more ironic.

'tis a pity that others do not have the testicular fortitude to do the same.


Maybe you should go talk to them about that then.

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Mon May 30, 2016 2:34 pm

Soames wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Thank you. It took a lot of counselling sessions for me to admit what an utterly horrible individual I was to victimise an innocent person, but I can admit that. We now live thousands of miles away from the other and are happily separated.


I was just trying to make a point. I had no clue you were a real life abuser. This makes our conversation all the more ironic.

'tis a pity that others do not have the testicular fortitude to do the same.


Maybe you should go talk to them about that then.


Oh dear goodness. Sarcasm on the internet doesn't carry well, does it?
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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:35 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
Soames wrote:
I was just trying to make a point. I had no clue you were a real life abuser. This makes our conversation all the more ironic.



Maybe you should go talk to them about that then.


Oh dear goodness. Sarcasm on the internet doesn't carry well, does it?


Probably not the best idea to try and insult somebody else by pretending to be a spousal abuser. It serves to make you look rather awkward.

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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Mon May 30, 2016 2:37 pm

Yes Soames, because you totally weren't going for it.

However, you generally picked the wrong gender: I have absolutely zero interest in women. Hence the correction.

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:
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Have you stopped beating your wife?


Oh yes, I've even stopped beating my husband too!
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon May 30, 2016 2:41 pm

So if we're done with the open OOC attacks, does anyone care to address the comments made by GC folks? Do we get another statement saying how only three people's views represent the region so people can keep saying online harassment doesn't exist without us blaming GC for their views? Is anyone going to try and pick up the pieces of the region's reputation, or are y'all just giving up on it?
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Postby Queen Yuno » Mon May 30, 2016 2:43 pm

Soames, shut the fuck up. I can't believe you all are fighting. People who are otherwise decent people. This is bullshit. Don't waste your time here. Those creeps are gone, Kemi is gone, more people are gone. No more. We've lost dear friends and you're here fighting foreign randos? -.-"

(Also I don't know where this came from, but Soames isn't Nuke. A random guy, more like. Can confirm.
...Ravenclaw ignore him pls. You two aren't making things any better.)

This place, you people, are friggin' stressful. Just stop fighting. It's over. Dead horses don't revive. Things better change or I won't last long here either.

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Postby Soames » Mon May 30, 2016 2:45 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Yes Soames, because you totally weren't going for it.


Sorry dude. Your posts are radiating cringe now. You pretend to have abused a spouse in order to make a cheap joke, thus making comedic light out of the very thing you came into this thread to protest. Then you bizarrely insinuate that I must be a sexual harasser for the horrid crime of disagreeing with you. Very embarrassing and disgusting behavior. There's real crime out there. Don't distract from it by slandering others because you don't have a point.

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