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Wickedly evil people
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Corporate Police State

Postby Wickedly evil people » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:59 am

Aenglaland wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:Go for it bro, but if you're planning on rising through the ranks, keep in mind we have the next three delegates chosen and it'll be at least three years before any new ones will be accepted.


Already planning the future? It only works with the NPO :p


what do you think we've been doing since 2005?


don't know the game ?
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Aenglaland
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Aenglaland » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:58 am

Wickedly evil people wrote:
Aenglaland wrote:

Already planning the future? It only works with the NPO :p


what do you think we've been doing since 2005?


don't know the game ?


I know this game very well, that's why I said it only works with TP. Saying you have delegates chosen for the next years is illogical, you can even have them chosen, but it doesn't mean things will always go smoothly and predictable, like your incoming delegate makes it look in that post, unless you pull a NPO. If you state otherwise, I won't buy it mainly because I'm not bothered by that, like you guys say you don't care about what others think :) Other than that, I wish the new leaders of TWP the best luck :)
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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:24 am

To whichever... person said that there's no momentum to move me to seat- uh, yes there is. A region-wide TG was sent with instructions to endorse me, and it's happening. I'm under 20 endos away at this point.
Transitions are slow.
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-Larry- (Ancient)
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Postby -Larry- (Ancient) » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:39 am

United RussoAsia wrote:To whichever... person said that there's no momentum to move me to seat- uh, yes there is. A region-wide TG was sent with instructions to endorse me, and it's happening. I'm under 20 endos away at this point.
Transitions are slow.

I'm just spit-balling here, but could it be that the non-endorsers do not want you to be delegate?

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Postby United RussoAsia » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:44 am

-Larry- wrote:
United RussoAsia wrote:To whichever... person said that there's no momentum to move me to seat- uh, yes there is. A region-wide TG was sent with instructions to endorse me, and it's happening. I'm under 20 endos away at this point.
Transitions are slow.

I'm just spit-balling here, but could it be that the non-endorsers do not want you to be delegate?

Potentially some do.
Most, however, are slowly endorsing me.
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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:04 am

United RussoAsia wrote:Potentially some do.
Most, however, are slowly endorsing me.

This is actually a fairly fast swap. Old Lazarus swaps used to take weeks (pre ban was a month).
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That Called the Vlagh
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Postby That Called the Vlagh » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:22 am

Aenglaland wrote:
Wickedly evil people wrote:
what do you think we've been doing since 2005?


don't know the game ?


I know this game very well, that's why I said it only works with TP. Saying you have delegates chosen for the next years is illogical, you can even have them chosen, but it doesn't mean things will always go smoothly and predictable, like your incoming delegate makes it look in that post, unless you pull a NPO. If you state otherwise, I won't buy it mainly because I'm not bothered by that, like you guys say you don't care about what others think :) Other than that, I wish the new leaders of TWP the best luck :)

There have been many successful multiyear delegate transitions within Nation States over the last twelve years. While the NPO is an extreme in that it has had one delegate for almost half of that time, that does not mean others can not be successful at laying the groundwork for transitions well into the future.

That said, I still think your example of the NPO is somewhat skewed as well. Until recently, Elegarth was Regent of the NPO, then it was a joint position with Feux. Then both were replaced by a singular Regent. All of that implies a shift in plans, which is of course allowed for within the construct.

The West Pacific has Guardians in place and has designated a certain process by which the next three Delegates are ordered. Obviously, that does not mean the order is static or that unforeseen circumstances can not occur, but it does mean that an outsider coming in will have a very difficult job getting into the top spot through internal processes in anything approaching a quick period of time.
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Minininjas
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Postby Minininjas » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:37 am

This is precisely why nations need to remember where the blanket statement about the "next three delegates" came from. The nation making that statement, while indeed being the designated Delegate, has not yet claimed the seat. And since TWP honors Game supremacy, the Guardian nation making the statement is not yet in a position to declare policy.

TWP is a simple, straight forward place. Sometimes we all let our emotions lead us down complicated paths. But mostly, we remember ourselves again after a good healthy smackdown by our fellow Guardians and region mates.

That's how the system is designed.

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Postby Solorni » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:34 pm

"War, War Never Changes"

Unfortunately the NS variety follows this quote, albeit with less disgusting circumstances and is generally simply boring with little happening. Although I wish you luck in making this entertaining.
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Shadoke
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Postby Shadoke » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:44 pm

Well, as military commander I do have some interesting ways in the works on how we can make this more than a joke. ;)
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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:51 pm

Shadoke wrote:Well, as military commander I do have some interesting ways in the works on how we can make this more than a joke. ;)

Have at it pal.
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Postby Shadoke » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:17 pm

Don't worry mate, it will all be over soon, and you youll get to meet Unibot and Delegate Guy in TRR!
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United RussoAsia
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Postby United RussoAsia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:26 pm

Shadoke wrote:Don't worry mate, it will all be over soon, and you youll get to meet Unibot and Delegate Guy in TRR!

Ok.
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Minininjas
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Postby Minininjas » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:50 am

So, I see Neph continues his associations with forum destroyers.

I admit I was previously only interested in this thread because URA can't seem to stop allowing himself to be baited. But now that I see this Nepharious plot involves the lowest form of cheating in the NSverse, I am going to remove myself (hoping all of NS does the same). I do not play with forum destroyers or those who think it's fun or harmless. Go find a different game to play.

(incidentally, his association with Neph is what got Fratellnoir kicked out of TWP. We don't play with cheaters or their friends)

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Postby Shadoke » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:12 am

So, personal digging? Stay class Darkesia
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Postby Marselesk » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:55 am

While forum destruction is not the most orthodox or necessary way to strike at a region, i'm having a very hard time understading how that's cheating.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:50 am

Marselesk wrote:While forum destruction is not the most orthodox or necessary way to strike at a region, i'm having a very hard time understading how that's cheating.


They need some way to justify their stance :p
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Elegarth
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Postby Elegarth » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:38 am

Forum destroying is just the one line we don't cross or are willing to have people cross.

Is just disgusting and offensive to the extreme.
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:23 pm

Elegarth wrote:Forum destroying is just the one line we don't cross or are willing to have people cross.

Is just disgusting and offensive to the extreme.

Forum destroyer victim here.

I'm less disgusted by forum destruction than I am at the people who dedicate their NS careers to harassing forum destroyers and causing them grief everywhere they try to make home.
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Postby Riftey » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:26 pm

As a victim to shadoke's momentary idiocy and the spawn of Nephmir's crazy - I gotta say i'm finding it hard to grasp that this will get off the ground and put ANY scratches on TWP.

These people saying it's stupid for him to make such claims when reestablishing himself - lies. Drama gains interest in the organisation keeping it in the front page of gameplay and in everyone's IRCs/Skypes. it gains the interest of the people. It is useful and wouldn't suprise me if the only reason he declared war was for this.
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Postby King Nephmir II » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:30 pm

Minininjas wrote:So, I see Neph continues his associations with forum destroyers.

Yup. What's your point?

My apologies if I believe that people deserve second chances, and a place where they will not be ridiculed and have their past actions held against them.

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Postby Riftey » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:58 pm

Talking about past...

I remember distinctly you disputing me having a religion. Saying it was insensitive to those who were religious. Going as far to attempt to take my title of prophet - which failed since you saw me claiming to be fuhrer as even worse.

Yet you have a religion now.

You also got VERY MAD at me for sending a mass WA from TEK when we were there. Yet here you are doing that.

Tisk tisk nephy. tisk tisk indeed. :p
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Postby King Nephmir II » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:10 pm

Riftey wrote:Talking about past...

I remember distinctly you disputing me having a religion. Saying it was insensitive to those who were religious. Going as far to attempt to take my title of prophet - which failed since you saw me claiming to be fuhrer as even worse.

Yet you have a religion now.

It's not a religion, it's an ideology. I am a Christian and would not seek to crate a false religion, even on an online game.

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Postby United RussoAsia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:24 pm

Ambroscus Koth wrote:
Elegarth wrote:Forum destroying is just the one line we don't cross or are willing to have people cross.

Is just disgusting and offensive to the extreme.

Forum destroyer victim here.

I'm less disgusted by forum destruction than I am at the people who dedicate their NS careers to harassing forum destroyers and causing them grief everywhere they try to make home.

Notice we didn't say anything until, yunno, we were declared war on.

Anyhow. It's not a line we cross.
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Postby Riftey » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:36 pm

King Nephmir II wrote:
Riftey wrote:Talking about past...

I remember distinctly you disputing me having a religion. Saying it was insensitive to those who were religious. Going as far to attempt to take my title of prophet - which failed since you saw me claiming to be fuhrer as even worse.

Yet you have a religion now.

It's not a religion, it's an ideology. I am a Christian and would not seek to crate a false religion, even on an online game.

Blah blah blah - It's a matter of semantics. Ultimately you've just copied me buddy. My recruitment method, my religion...what next? :P

You sound like ZennyBae with all that "RAWR NOT A RELIGION" crap ahaha

You know I love you Nephmir! <3

United RussoAsia wrote:
Ambroscus Koth wrote:Forum destroyer victim here.

I'm less disgusted by forum destruction than I am at the people who dedicate their NS careers to harassing forum destroyers and causing them grief everywhere they try to make home.

Notice we didn't say anything until, yunno, we were declared war on.

Anyhow. It's not a line we cross.

so much wrong with this post...

We'll only resort to what is being deemed "petty tactics" if they hold negative view against us. Like spreading secrets your best friend told you just because you had a fight. Ah - guess it's just more proof that TWP is a morass of "attractive" school girls excluding anyone who doesn't fit into their standards of beauty.

And yes I have lost my mind.
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