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Postby The Stalker » Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:21 pm

Well I certainly believe you think it's true Cormac. Overall your newspaper always seems to have gotten the inside scoop and told in a truthful manner, and likely your source knows this too. Which is where my personally skepticism comes in. Evidence can be falsified, without seeing it ourselves how do we know your not being manipulated? Maybe your source has something to gain by this story.

In particular I find the notion that Mousebumples is involved hard to believe, as I and many others are under the impression that game mods in general aren't so involved in actual game play or something as controversial as a coup.

Regardless, I remain skeptical. Time will tell, or perhaps this publication will scare off the would be coupers and we'll never know.
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Postby The Keeper of Light » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:21 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:least of all Ainocra, 94 Block, and whoever's puppet that is (Douria, is that you?!).


No Cormac I am not Douria, but you would be surprised to figure out who I actually am.

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Postby Cormac Stark » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:22 pm

The Keeper of Light wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:least of all Ainocra, 94 Block, and whoever's puppet that is (Douria, is that you?!).


No Cormac I am not Douria, but you would be surprised to figure out who I actually am.

I'm rarely surprised in NationStates these days, but have fun with your puppet routine. :P

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Postby Solorni » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:39 pm

The pronoun game isn't fun :P
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Postby The Keeper of Light » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:50 pm

Solorni wrote:The pronoun game isn't fun :P


Sure it is Rach.

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:15 pm

Sichuan Pepper for delegate! Only TITO can restore order o7
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Postby Xoriet » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:33 pm

The Keeper of Light wrote:
Solorni wrote:The pronoun game isn't fun :P


Sure it is Rach.

Your technique bores before people have the time to get interested in your identity. :( Such an old tactic.

Considering how often it's used, the novelty may as well have never existed.
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Postby The Defender with No Name » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:12 am

Xoriet wrote:
The Keeper of Light wrote:
Sure it is Rach.

Your technique bores before people have the time to get interested in your identity. :( Such an old tactic.

Considering how often it's used, the novelty may as well have never existed.

Yeah, 100% this.

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Postby Dr Ivo » Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:46 pm

It's simple to dismiss these claims as "lol Cormac", but definitely do try to keep them in mind.
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Postby The Miniluv Messenger » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:18 pm

The Miniluv Messenger wrote:The operative suggested to The Miniluv Messenger that The Dourian Embassy, despite appearing to be inactive in NationStates for many months, has been actively involved with the plot from the beginning and has even occasionally been active on the Osiris Fraternal Order forum via Ainocra's account, using a proxy IP address. The Miniluv Messenger has not been able to independently verify whether Ainocra has used a proxy IP address during his time in Osiris.

Sources within the Osiris Fraternal Order have confirmed that a proxy IP address has been used on Ainocra's forum account in the past, though obviously the claim that The Dourian Embassy was the individual using the account at the time cannot be verified. The use of proxy IP addresses has been against the forum rules of the Osiris Fraternal Order forum since its inception, requiring a special waiver from forum administration on the rare occasions that their use is approved.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:25 pm

Confirmation! The Miniluv Messenger is always accurate and everybody should stop doubting Cormac's journalistic integrity. This is seriously the best source for actual gameplay related news on NS since that NSNE thing or whatever it was called that Unibot was doing during his retirement period. This publication is actually better overall, but I liked how quick Unibot's articles came out.
Ballotonia wrote:Personally, I think there's something seriously wrong with a game if it willfully allows the destruction of longtime player communities in favor of kids whose sole purpose is to enjoy ruining the game for others.

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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:36 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Confirmation! The Miniluv Messenger is always accurate and everybody should stop doubting Cormac's journalistic integrity. This is seriously the best source for actual gameplay related news on NS since that NSNE thing or whatever it was called that Unibot was doing during his retirement period. This publication is actually better overall, but I liked how quick Unibot's articles came out.

Thanks Thomas. :hug:

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Postby Ainocra » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:40 pm

Well it's no secret that I often check the forums from work, and considering the size of the company I work for you can do the math yourself.

Seeing as how I am a member of the OFO admin team I'd say they aren't worried about it.

I suggest that next you accuse me of eating babies, have some fun with your lies :)
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:47 pm

Ainocra wrote:Well it's no secret that I often check the forums from work, and considering the size of the company I work for you can do the math yourself.

Seeing as how I am a member of the OFO admin team I'd say they aren't worried about it.

I suggest that next you accuse me of eating babies, have some fun with your lies :)

And yet when you saw the original article you didn't bother to address your proxy IP address usage, and instead implied that the entire article was a lie. Now we find that you have in fact used proxy IP addresses, so you're now saying they were used for work. But you could have confirmed and explained that when the original article was published. At the very least, your lack of transparency and your attempts to evade are disturbing, and I will note that you haven't actually denied a plot to coup Osiris anywhere that I've seen. Which would be a very Douriaesque thing to do -- dance around the issue without ever outright saying you aren't going to coup.

Are you going to coup, Ainocra?

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:50 pm

This has turned into a live interview! How exciting :eek:
Ballotonia wrote:Personally, I think there's something seriously wrong with a game if it willfully allows the destruction of longtime player communities in favor of kids whose sole purpose is to enjoy ruining the game for others.

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Postby Ainocra » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:53 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Are you going to coup, Ainocra?


No, I have no interest in such an endeavor.

Are you going to show some proof of my alleged malfeasance?
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:56 pm

Ainocra wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:
Are you going to coup, Ainocra?


No, I have no interest in such an endeavor.

Are you going to show some proof of my alleged malfeasance?

"I have no interest in such an endeavor" is not the same thing as "I will not perpetrate a coup against Osiris." :roll:

As stated in the article, no, I will not be showing the evidence. It would endanger an ongoing intelligence operation and I have promised my source that I will not publicly reveal the evidence. In the event that you do perpetrate a coup, that intelligence operation may prove vital to thwarting it. Now run along and go try to find your spy, I would imagine it's keeping you and your co-conspirators very busy. ;)
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Postby Ainocra » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:01 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Ainocra wrote:
No, I have no interest in such an endeavor.

Are you going to show some proof of my alleged malfeasance?

"I have no interest in such an endeavor" is not the same thing as "I will not perpetrate a coup against Osiris." :roll:

As stated in the article, no, I will not be showing the evidence. It would endanger an ongoing intelligence operation and I have promised my source that I will not publicly reveal the evidence. In the event that you do perpetrate a coup, that intelligence operation may prove vital to thwarting it. Now run along and go try to find your spy, I would imagine it's keeping all of you very busy. ;)



I have devoted less time to that I have to answering these baseless accusations.
If you truly feel that you have some damning evidence, let's see it. If you truly feel that the OFO is in some type of danger then perhaps you should contact the Atef.

As you have done neither the logical conclusion is that you are simply engaging in a time honored political tradition to wit: mudslinging.

No proof = No truth
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:11 pm

Ainocra wrote:I have devoted less time to that I have to answering these baseless accusations.

So you're saying that you have spent time looking for the spy among your co-conspirators, even though you're claiming there is no conspiracy and no co-conspirators? Because saying you've spent less time on that than on answering "these baseless accusations" implies you have spent some time on the former.

But I'm sure you just misspoke, right? No couper would actually accidentally admit a conspiracy in Gameplay, right? Right? ;)

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Postby Pierconium » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:13 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Ainocra wrote:I have devoted less time to that I have to answering these baseless accusations.

So you're saying that you have spent time looking for the spy among your co-conspirators, even though you're claiming there is no conspiracy and no co-conspirators? Because saying you've spent less time on that than on answering "these baseless accusations" implies you have spent some time on the former.

But I'm sure you just misspoke, right? No couper would actually accidentally admit a conspiracy in Gameplay, right? Right? ;)

I'm pretty sure that isn't what he meant.
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Postby Ainocra » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:17 pm

I'm saying I have devoted no time whatsoever to it. :)

You know, when I first signed up for the OFO you were on the admin team, so you approved my being there....

Illuminati confirmed! ;)


You know if you wanted an interview all you had to do was ask :)
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:18 pm

Ainocra wrote:I'm saying I have devoted no time whatsoever to it. :)

Ainocra wrote:I have devoted less time to that I have to answering these baseless accusations.

Do you even know what you're saying? Perhaps you should let Douria on your account again. :P

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Postby Pierconium » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:21 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Ainocra wrote:I'm saying I have devoted no time whatsoever to it. :)

Ainocra wrote:I have devoted less time to that I have to answering these baseless accusations.

Do you even know what you're saying? Perhaps you should let Douria on your account again. :P

Zero is less than some. If he has spent some time answering the accusations then it is conceivable that having spent no time on the other is less.
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Postby Ikania » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:20 pm

The Miniluv Messenger wrote:
The Miniluv Messenger wrote:The operative suggested to The Miniluv Messenger that The Dourian Embassy, despite appearing to be inactive in NationStates for many months, has been actively involved with the plot from the beginning and has even occasionally been active on the Osiris Fraternal Order forum via Ainocra's account, using a proxy IP address. The Miniluv Messenger has not been able to independently verify whether Ainocra has used a proxy IP address during his time in Osiris.

Sources within the Osiris Fraternal Order have confirmed that a proxy IP address has been used on Ainocra's forum account in the past, though obviously the claim that The Dourian Embassy was the individual using the account at the time cannot be verified. The use of proxy IP addresses has been against the forum rules of the Osiris Fraternal Order forum since its inception, requiring a special waiver from forum administration on the rare occasions that their use is approved.

... shit. I might have used the site when had a proxy up so I could watch The Daily Show online on its website (too lazy to go to comedycentral). pls no ban
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:03 pm

Cormac if you truly had such a vital intelligence operation running, why would you publicly disclose it? Do the police let everyone in the area know they are running a john sting operation while it is going on? If the feds were investigating a spy do you think they would tip that person off while it was ongoing?

So far you have accused Ainorca, Mouse, Separatist Peoples and Douria of being involved in said plot. Why not Kenny? You know if something of this magnitude was going down, he would have his fingers in it. The only connections you have are the fact that Monkey Island and AO have an embassy, and thats it. Ain and Mousey were the former delegates of MI and Douria was a member of AO. You do realize both of those regions hold embassies with Texas, Zhaucauozian Friendship, Final Fantasy, and Osiris correct? So why haven't you accused Flib, a known poster on the AO forums, Ard a game moderator, and NewTexas of being involved yet? Obviously this is some huge conspiracy, so you would think they may want to involve their allies wouldn't you? I am sure the forces of Europeia are on standby just awaiting the trigger order. :roll:

I suggest you forward your resume to CNN, as they are always looking for exceptional sensationalists to write fiction for them so they can blow it out of proportion. :p

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